RC Daughter dating GO, Our relationship strained

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wow that was harsh! I guess you don’t have kids?!
That’s okay Diane he was just being snarky because I wrote that he reminds me of one of my sons. That was so funny. I think maybe he is too young to see it from an adult let alone a parent prospective. His disparaging of his mom is the harsh thing and sad. He no longer reminds me of my boy who would never say that about me. I now have a brand new appreciation for him. Think I’ll give him a call tonight. 😃

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As a Catholic, I go to a Divine Liturgy, the same as the Orthodox Divine Liturgy.
He can come to an RC church and receive the sacraments. He can go up and receive the Eucharist. How much closer to Catholicism can you be?

Please don’t make this like it’s something awful. It isn’t.
 
You are going to loose your daughter some at this age. The harder you try to hold on the more she will pull away. A large loving family, who practices their faith (which is as close as Catholic as any other Christian faith can be) hardly sounds alarming. Dance lessons are a very nice gift for a young couple. She down played the ring because she knew you wouldn’t celebrate with her. He professed her love for her? My daughter is 18 -its quite normal for relationships at this age to say that very easily. Mom, she is learning about relationships. Nothing you have revealed sounds immoral or wrong. Its her life, her choices and if you react to everything by the time something big comes around where she will really need your guidance she will no longer be open to hearing you or maybe even telling you. He may be gay? I seriously doubt it -its sounds like your looking for issues. Your afraid, your fear will not stop her -but it will drive her a way because you are being a bit irrational. Celebrate her learning about love with her.

My daughter has had a couple boyfriends and we’ve been through some serious stuff but she tells me everything because I really try hard to put myself in her shoes and remember what it was like -and I try very hard to be the mom I didn’t have. She’s remained chaste through her two rather long relationships and now she’s single again. I will keep you both in my prayers.
 
wow that was harsh! I guess you don’t have kids?!
Well, I’m not expecting it to win Post Of The Month or anything, but to be fair to coachkfan1 we should keep in mind what he was reacting to:
You sound like one of my boys. He is one of those people whom everyone loves. He thinks quite highly of himself. He can see that he is not on drugs, he drinks but not to excess etc. etc. He sees so many other people who are worse than he is and concludes that there is nothing wrong when he leads this secular life he has cut out for himself.
 
To the OP: My sense is that you are seriously overreacting, and in a manner that will likely cause your daughter to more strongly align herself with her young man; at her age, that is a very typical reaction.

Perhaps it might be helpful if you become more familiar with the relationship between Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. It may put your mind somewhat at ease. Here is an excerpt from a Catholic Answers tract on the subject:

“In 1965, Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras I of Constantinople lifted mutual excommunications dating from the eleventh century, and in 1995, Pope John Paul II and Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople concelebrated the Eucharist together. John Paul II, the first Slavic pope, has made the reconciliation of Eastern and Western Christendom a special theme of his pontificate, and he has released a large number of documents and addresses honoring the contributions of Eastern Christendom and seeking to promote unity between Catholics and Orthodox.”

catholic.com/tracts/eastern-orthodoxy

Truly, it’s not as if your daughter has taken up with a satanist, but rather with a member of the Church’s “other lung.”
 
“In 1965, Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras I of Constantinople lifted mutual excommunications dating from the eleventh century, and in 1995, Pope John Paul II and Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople concelebrated the Eucharist together. John Paul II, the first Slavic pope, has made the reconciliation of Eastern and Western Christendom a special theme of his pontificate, and he has released a large number of documents and addresses honoring the contributions of Eastern Christendom and seeking to promote unity between Catholics and Orthodox.”

catholic.com/tracts/eastern-orthodoxy
I would recommend caution w.r.t. assertions like the bolded part of that quote, as such claims may offend Orthodox very deeply. (Just think how we Catholics would feel if someone claimed that concelebration had take place between e.g. the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury.)
 
I would recommend caution w.r.t. assertions like the bolded part of that quote, as such claims may offend Orthodox very deeply. (Just think how we Catholics would feel if someone claimed that concelebration had take place between e.g. the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury.)
I was quoting from one of Catholic Answer’s own tracts, to which I had linked; I am sure that Catholic Answers had no intention of offending Orthodox Christians. My own purpose is simply to show the OP that her daughter’s dating an Orthodox young man is not, perhaps, the dire situation she seems to think it is.
 
OP: It really sounds like you are looking for any excuse not to like this man. Is there anything that he’s said or done that would lead you to believe that he’s a bad man and would treat your daughter poorly?

People are going to love who they are going to love, regardless of what anyone else says.

Is she actually talking about leaving the faith or is that something you fear?

I get having fears/anxieties, but it sounds like you need to take your lead from her in regards to her actually leaving the faith. I know couples who dated steadily through college and eventually married after they got their degrees. It’s not weird to find your future spouse during college. I have a friend who married her husband shortly after she graduated high school and they are still in love and married. And as you pointed out, it’s possible to have an interfaith marriage.

Guys can be more ‘feminine’; women can be more ‘masculine’ and still be heterosexual. A lot of straight guys wear pink these days. Some girls, like me, aren’t ‘girly girls’. 😛 It’s really okay and normal.
 
You have posted about this before. In fact, this is primarily what you have posted about. Either telling about the same problem and your concern about a strain on your relationship, or asking about the similarities of the GO and RCC. It seems almost to the point of obsession and I can see how your daughter would also feel her relationship with you is being strained.

You were previously also given the exact same advice as you are now yet you are continuing to read into this relationship, look at your daughter’s personal items from her boyfriend, analyze and overanalyze her relationship with him, and now decide that he might be gay because of his mannerisms.

I think you should consider that it is you who is putting this strain on your relationship with your daughter and it is not her relationship with her boyfriend. If this is how you continue to be, is it any wonder she would be thrilled to be part of a big welcoming family with him? 🤷
 
My own purpose is simply to show the OP that her daughter’s dating an Orthodox young man is not, perhaps, the dire situation she seems to think it is.
Yes, I understand. But that’s why I think it’s so important to point out that you included a claim that might deeply offend the Orthodox.

Perhaps you have not considered how you would respond if (for example) an Anglican poster claimed that concelebration had take place between the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury … or, even if you would not be bothered by such a claim, I am sure that many Catholics would.
 
You have posted about this before. In fact, this is primarily what you have posted about. Either telling about the same problem and your concern about a strain on your relationship, or asking about the similarities of the GO and RCC. It seems almost to the point of obsession and I can see how your daughter would also feel her relationship with you is being strained.

You were previously also given the exact same advice as you are now yet you are continuing to read into this relationship, look at your daughter’s personal items from her boyfriend, analyze and overanalyze her relationship with him, and now decide that he might be gay because of his mannerisms.

I think you should consider that it is you who is putting this strain on your relationship with your daughter and it is not her relationship with her boyfriend. If this is how you continue to be, is it any wonder she would be thrilled to be part of a big welcoming family with him? 🤷
I was just getting ready to post this same thing. It can’t be good to obsess so much about anything and it would definitely drive a wedge between me and my mom if she acted in such a way as looking at my private cards, assuming a man is gay because he isn’t macho enough for her liking, being upset because I, like she was, was drawn to a man if a different faith (and GO is closer to Catholic than Lutheran is)…

Look, she is in her second year of college. She met a good man and is happy. Do you not see how blessed you are? this would be a dream come true for many mothers. I was 16 when I met my husband. We have been together 20 years and have eight kids. Your daughter is old enough, not to mention leagally able, to make her own decisions, and if you raised her well, she is wise enough to make GOOD decisions. Have confidence in your ability as a mom and let go of these tendencies to try and control her.

I wouldn’t be surprised if your daughter decides to skip coming home on school breaks if you continue to obsess over this or other things. I mean, what is wrong with a big, happy, close knit family?
 
Yes, I understand. But that’s why I think it’s so important to point out that you included a claim that might deeply offend the Orthodox.

Perhaps you have not considered how you would respond if (for example) an Anglican poster claimed that concelebration had take place between the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury … or, even if you would not be bothered by such a claim, I am sure that many Catholics would.
Well, if an Anglican made such a claim, I would know they were mistaken, as their priesthood is not valid in the view of the Catholic Church.

As the quote I made was from a Catholic Answers tract with a Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur, and as my purpose was to provide the OP with my view of her situation, how the Orthodox might feel is not my primary concern. There are other threads and forums for dissecting things with a theological fine-tooth comb. (And there has been considerable discussion of what transpired between the Pope and Patriarch Bartholemew in 1995…)
 
Okay I get all your thoughtful posts and will do my best to keep my mouth shut! It’s probably best she is back at school now so the less I know the better. After all, he has not asked her to marry him! Plus as my recovering alcoholic husband tells me to recite and abide by the serenity prayer and take it a day at a time. Yesterday is gone and tomorrow never comes, I have to live in the present. I guess just venting and hearing comments that I agree with or not is helpful to me.
 
Okay I get all your thoughtful posts and will do my best to keep my mouth shut! It’s probably best she is back at school now so the less I know the better. After all, he has not asked her to marry him! Plus as my recovering alcoholic husband tells me to recite and abide by the serenity prayer and take it a day at a time. Yesterday is gone and tomorrow never comes, I have to live in the present. I guess just venting and hearing comments that I agree with or not is helpful to me.
At least she isn’t dating a tattoo artist with facial piercings, head to toe tats, and reeking of cigarettes, pot, and booze. 👍
 
Well, if an Anglican made such a claim, I would know they were mistaken,
*You *would, but some readers might trust that the statement was true. In the same way, readers might assume that it’s true that “Pope John Paul II and Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople concelebrated the Eucharist together”.

Anyhow, I don’t think we should be talking about this on this particular thread. Could you be so kind as to withdraw the assertion you made?
 
*You *would, but some readers might trust that the statement was true. In the same way, readers might assume that it’s true that “Pope John Paul II and Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople concelebrated the Eucharist together”.

Anyhow, I don’t think we should be talking about this on this particular thread. Could you be so kind as to withdraw the assertion you made?
Peter, as I already pointed out, it is not my assertion, but that of the writer of a Catholic Answers tract on the subject of Catholic-Orthodox relations. Follow the original link I had provided.

As the OP seems to have been helped by the numerous comments, I think the entire thread can be put to rest.
 
I’m not entirely sure whether I ought to take that as a “No” to the request to withdraw it; but if so then I’m sorry to hear that. 😦
 
That is your opinion. They are indeed true Churches…the Catholic Church refers to them as Churches…she doesn’t refer to Protestants that way, instead calling them Ecclesial Communities. The Official name of the Orthodox Churches includes the word Catholic as well.

I’m not going to debate about the “validity” of the Orthodox here. I gave the OP my advice FWIW.
Well, your advice was that it would not be a “big deal” if the OP’s daughter converted, but the Catholic Church teaches otherwise. The Catholic Church call her members to remain in visible communion with her, the true church founded by Jesus Christ.

While the Orthodox are indeed valid churches, and their members commit no sin by being Orthodox, a Catholic is not permitted to covert to Orthodoxy. Such an attempt at conversion would be a serious sin of schism and indifference.
 
You make a good point, runningdude. I’m afraid that, upon first hearing about the good relations between Catholics and Orthodox, it can be easy to assume that the Catholic Church is okay with people leaving Catholicism for Orthodoxy, and that the Orthodox Church is okay with people leaving Orthodoxy for Catholicism … neither of which are true of course.
 
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