Reasons Why I Believe in The Blessed Virgin Mary's Assumption

[reggie]

I have no problem with the belief in the Assumption of Mary. She is the first redeemed by Christ, she is the first of the believers, and it only makes sense that she would also be the first to reap the reward of eternal life with Christ in body and soul.

I think that the arguement against her ever being corrupted by death is a good one. If it is true that she was immaculately conceived, that she led a sinless life, it seems to naturally follow that she would have never suffered the effects of death on her body. Our bodies die and return to the dust from which they came because of original sin, she was preserved from that sin, therefore, I believe that she would also have been preserved from the effects of original sin.

I also find very interesting the idea that Mary was being protected and therefore was rarely mentioned in the NT after the resurrection. It is a very novel concept and one that I have never heard before, but it does seem to be reasonable and even likely.

 

[Maccabees]

I find it funny that many evangelicals have no problem beleiving they themselves will be raptured to heaven but have a problem with the Mother of God being rapture to heaven. The difference here being she is the first to have this done. Considering she was the first Christian it makes sense she is the first taken to heaven.

 

[mj330]

Maccabees:

I find it funny that many evangelicals have no problem beleiving they themselves will be raptured to heaven but have a problem with the Mother of God being rapture to heaven. The difference here being she is the first to have this done. Considering she was the first Christian it makes sense she is the first taken to heaven.

Good point. I also think people lose sight that God is sovreign and can do what HE wants when He pleases.

 

[JKirkLVNV]

Her “yes” made it all possible. I think Her Son would catch Her up to Him immediately and never suffer corruption to touch Her.

 

[Maccabees]

True it makes sense the King would want his Queen mother to join him immediately in his kingdom.

Besides there is strong Precedent here Biblical figures such as Elijah and Moses according to tradition were assumed into heaven but no one cries about that possibility.

 

[wcknight]

This is a no brainer, IF the Church said it happened I believe it.

PLUS, if God was going to let Elijah and Moses in. Mary is certainly in. In the WWJD context, if it was my mother, the first thing I would want is to have my mom with me.

What I don’t understand about prots and their petty issues over Mary is, why does God have to act only on the way that they expect Him to and why can Jesus not give Mary priviledges and honors above all others.

It’s as if they are jealous that Mary should receive some honor that no one else gets.

They criticize us that we honor Mary as if she were divine. We don’t believe that she is… but suppose IF God did decide to make Mary divine, would God not have the right to do so ??? AND would anyone balk at this and tell God, no I can not accept this, please send me to H*** instead !

Who are we to tell Jesus what He can or Can not do ???

wc

 

[Maccabees]

Wll I won’t go down the what if Mary was divine route that is way to problematic to bring up. However I can see where you are going that who are we to tell God how he honors his earthly mother.

I mean the Bible does say honor thy mother and father. I think Jesus would fulfill this perfectly what better way to honor your mother than to have her in heaven with you?

Scripture I think is looked as a biography for all those involoved in the New Testament. In fact the Bible tells us very little of anyone besides Jesus and even Jesus we are leaving out 30 years. There are so many things the Bible doesn’t cover. The Bible was to tell us the Good News of Jesus and not every knook and cranny of each persons life. Just because the Bible doesn’t tell us how Peter and Paul died doesn’t mean they never died at all or that the traditions surrounding their death held for 2000 years are not true most likely they are true and archaelogy supports that fact as far as it can possibly can.

 

[mark_a]

Maccabees:

I find it funny that many evangelicals have no problem beleiving they themselves will be raptured to heaven but have a problem with the Mother of God being rapture to heaven.

Great point, never heard it before. Sometimes it’s just too obvious.

 

[Prometheum_x]

Protestants disbelieve in the Assumption because they see no positive evidence for it, not because they don’t think that God couldn’t or wouldn’t. The honest protestant will say that the Assumption of Mary is plausible on the basis that Elijah was assumed, thereby proving its feasability. However, for them, while the Assumption of Elijah is recorded in the Scriptures, Mary’s Assumption is not. A protestant might speculate on whether she was or not based on the evidence and might even believe that it happened, but will refrain from making it a matter of faith.

Regarding one of the arguments for the Assumption: Saying, “Wouldn’t Jesus want his mother to be in heaven with him” is a rather weak argument, for it begs the question: Who knows what Jesus would have wanted? Obviously, we know that Jesus did want his mother to be in heaven with him right away because that has been passed on to us from the Apostles and taught to us by the Church. However, I can just as easily see it being the other way around.

Suppose that the world was such that in fact Mary had not been assumed and the Church had always maintained the Mary had died, and look, there is her tomb with her bones. Then, we would be talking about how it made so much sense for her to have remained here, giving us an example of how to have a holy death and leaving us the relics of the greatest saint to ever live.

 

[oudave]

Maccabees:

True it makes sense the King would want his Queen mother to join him immediately in his kingdom.

Besides there is strong Precedent here Biblical figures such as Elijah and Moses according to tradition were assumed into heaven but no one cries about that possibility.

Hi
Thats because scripture says that ther were taken to Heaven. It doesnt say that Mary was. If someone as important as Mary were assumed dont you think God would have let us know? The fact is it is not in scripture and it wasnt until around the year 1580 that the Catholic church held the official position that she was assumed.
Always go back to the Bible for your answers.
In Him and Only Him, Dave.

 

[Prometheum_x]

oudave:

Hi
If someone as important as Mary were assumed dont you think God would have let us know?

Well, all we know from that statement is that if you were God you would have let us know about Mary’s assumption. The fact is that we can’t really say what God would or would not have told us in Scripture. We only know which things he has told us in Scripture.

His ways are not our ways, as it is said.

 

[Zooey]

Genesis315:

Does anyone know if Luther and company believed in the Assumption?

I have no idea what Luther believed, but as a Methodist, I can tell you that John Wesley believed in Mary’s perpetual virginity, & was open to the idea that she was assumed into heaven.

 

[Church_Militant]

oudave:

Hi
Thats because scripture says that ther were taken to Heaven. It doesnt say that Mary was. If someone as important as Mary were assumed dont you think God would have let us know? The fact is it is not in scripture and it wasnt until around the year 1580 that the Catholic church held the official position that she was assumed.
Always go back to the Bible for your answers.
In Him and Only Him, Dave.

Why Dave? History is not all in the Bible…not even close. Nor is mathematis, science, or all literature! No; God might not let us know in the canon… but there is a great deal of stuff that He didn’t see fit to include in the canon. Is there a miraculous principle of God doing things like this? Of course there is! The Holy Spirit snatched Philip away to Azotus after he baptized the eunuch…is that the only time that happened? No one can say…not even you or your preachers and teachers. Are there stories of such things happening after the NT was closed? Yep. Lots of them…or does your particular version of Christianity disbelieve in miracles? If so I’d say that is really a shame.

I think that the whole fallacy of what you try to tell us is summed up in the closing line of your statement:

Always go back to the Bible for your answers.

That is a drastic oversimplification of Christianity and it simply defies all God-given good sense and logic since history tells us a very great many things about what the early church believed and why things developed the way they did. Just the ECF offer more insight into what we should believe than anything that I’ve read from any n-C preacher. Accept or reject…believe whatever you want…but I know what I believe and why. I go with the real full gospel New Testament church, not some bunch of johnny-come-lately Bible thumpers with a wide diversity of opinons and no Holy Spirit unity of doctrines.
Pax vobiscum,

 

[Church_Militant]

Zooey:

I have no idea what Luther believed, but as a Methodist, I can tell you that John Wesley believed in Mary’s perpetual virginity, & was open to the idea that she was assumed into heaven.

Thank you Zooey…that’s a very good point!

 

[unworthysinner]

Lorarose:

There is a tomb…but it is empty. Just like her Son’s tomb.

Up until 1950, I know because my father a former Catholic remembers this, there were many shrines to Mary with flakes of her bone. If Mary was assumed into heaven, these shrines would have never existed and the writers of the New Testament would have written about it. Actually surprisingly little is written about Mary in the NT. Here are all the refefrences to Mary the mother of Jesus in the Bible…

MARY. 1. The mother of Jesus, Matt. 1:16; Luke 1:26–38; 2:5–19. Visits her cousin Elisabeth, Luke 1:39–56. Attends the feast at Jerusalem with her husband and her son, starts on the return, misses Jesus, seeks and finds him in the temple, Luke 2:48–51. Is present with Jesus at a marriage in Cana of Galilee, John 2:1–10. Seeks Jesus when he is teaching in a house, Matt. 12:46, 47; Mark 3:31; Luke 8:19. Present at the cross, John 19:25–27. Is committed to the care of John, John 19:27. Dwells with the disciples in Jerusalem, Acts 1:14. Prophecies concerning, Isa. 7:14; Luke 2:35.%between%
%between%Swanson, J., & Nave, O. (1994). New Nave’s. Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems.

 

[Fashina86]

Of course… I believe… It makes a lot of sense that since she is Christ’s Mother, that she’d be assumed…

God Bless–JMJ
Laura

 

[SPOKENWORD]

Lorarose:

There is a tomb…but it is empty. Just like her Son’s tomb.

Hi Larose,Yes BUT Jesus left His clothes behind as evidence. God Bless

 

[mercygate]

unworthysinner:

Up until 1950, I know because my father a former Catholic remembers this, there were many shrines to Mary with flakes of her bone.

What shrines are those? I am a Convert (so I’m kind of ignorant), and although I grew up in a Catholic neighborhood and am pretty old, I have not heard of these shrines. What happened to them after 1950 – I mean, it’s not like nobody ever heard of the Assumption before 1950.

 

[Mickey]

SPOKENWORD:

Hi Larose,Yes BUT Jesus left His clothes behind as evidence. God Bless

Jesus appeared to many as the risen Christ. That’s the best evidence. Mary did not rise from the dead–she was assumed into heaven.

 

[SPOKENWORD]

Mickey:

Jesus appeared to many as the risen Christ. That’s the best evidence. Mary did not rise from the dead–she was assumed into heaven.

Hi Mickey, Everyone that was born died. Dust you came and dust will you go. Even Christ died. God Bless