Nevertheless the indult was given ( I will take your word on the circumstances surrounding the granting of same). To expand your argument what about members of the early church? Are the canonised early saints any less saintly because they received communion in the hand? Are we going round in circles or what?
Thank you for clarifying. With belief in the Real Presence waning, it would seem that the “spirit” of the present “law” isn’t accomplishing what it is meant to accomplish.
Would outlawing CITH raise belief in the Real Presence? Dont you think that things go deeper than that?
Pat, I think you may already know what my answer would be. I think a whole-scale return to Traditional Catholic Teaching expressed so beautifully in the Traditional Catholic Mass is our only hope. That is my opinion, for whatever its worth.
I’m not so downcast but I know that God will provide. When the time is right He will show the way forward. Go with God my friend - I’m just about to get dinner then bed.
You consider Traditional Catholic Teaching downcast? I’m sure you do not, but please clarify.
No…you’re not a dissenter because you prefer to receive the Sacred Body and Blood of Jesus Christ in your hand. Did I every say that? I thought we were discussing other differences between the two ways to receive OTHER than what is “legally” allowed. That’s what I was discussing anyway. I call that putting words in my mouth.So, if a person receives Holy Communion in the hand, then we are to conclude that you think that we are most likely dissenters since you prefer Holy Communion on the tongue only and you declare that this way is preferable even though the ECF apparently did not since they did not implement it? I call this moralizing.
Very sensitive. I didn’t say you were a dissenter. I simply made an observation about how dissenters behave.
Good grief. And pnewton am I to understand from other posts of your’s that you are in a music leadership position in your church? Wow! And we wonder why many churches in America are sick.
ROTFL…it’s safe to say they do.These nuns like Communion in the hand
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Would someone who really believed in the sacred Body and Blood of Christ in the Eucharist talk about this subject like this? Not to mention the “we can’t reach perfection so what’s the difference between small or smaller sizes of Christ’s body being walked on” argument is enough to drive a reasoning person mad.
Well said John and very beautiful. But as I’ve said before, yes the Church allows both ways. But so too it allows you to receive communion only ONCE per year. Would it be judgment on our part to state the fact that it is FAR more beneficial to receive communion more often than once a year…despite what the Church “allows”? That’s not judgement, in the sense the modern world thinks of it.I had my first communion earlier this year. (yes - I’m a 50 year old heathen that was finally called to repent and convert - Thank God!). I had decided to receive my first communion in the hand (I think because I wanted to look at it). I discussed it with my wife who told me about the tiny particle residue that could be left behind, but stubbornly I insisted that I would still receive in my hand.
So now the time had come. I was pretty nervous and had asked St Joseph and Blessed Mother to accompany me as I approached down the aisle in anticipation of receiving the Blessed Sacrement. When the Host was presented - “The Body of Christ”, without thinking I said “Amen”, opened my mouth, tilted my head back, and received on the tongue.
I guess my subconcious didn’t want to even think of the possibility of one particle escaping and blaspheming the good God. I’m glad I did it that way and I will never receive any other way. Why take the chance?
But the Church does allow receiving on the hand, so I do not judge other people who choose to receive that way.
I’m not sure why but I just had thoughts of the scribes and pharisees making legal arguments to justify their behavior instead of listening to their hearts.
Well that makes one out of 1 Billion.
I didn’t say you are a dissenter…are you? But I do feel confident characterizing certain behvior and beliefs of dissenters. I also feel comfortable saying many “dissenters” consider themselves Catholic too?
While I do think that at times there were (and still are) many priests and bishops who did not teach the Catholic faith emphatically enough and who were lax in regfard to discipline and catechesis I do not believe that all the blame can be put on their shoulders. Surely the laity bears some responsibility as well? If we don’t care enough about the faith to pay attention to what priests and bishops do teach, or try and educate ourselves outside of the Mass or just think that too many of the rules of the CC are too burdensome for us to follow then should we be exempt from any blame? It is just too easy to pass on blame these days.
Don’t expect, from what I"ve seen here, a reasoned response Savienu.
