Receiving communion in the hand using a purificator?

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Receiving communion in the hand using a purificator? Liturgy and Sacraments
I’ve brought this up in other threads, but I think it deserves its own. What problem would there be, if any, with receiving communion in the hand, but covering one’s hand with a purificator (or even a nice, dignified cloth handkerchief)? I do not receive CITH, but given the present circumstances, I can see that I am more or less going to have to, if I should be so blessed as to be able to go to Mass anytime soon. Both for reasons of tradition and hygiene, I do not wish to receive on my bare p…
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Receiving communion in the hand using a purificator?
Don’t do that
 
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Ah, I thought you were saying I shouldn’t post the practical reasons why the way we go about laundering and ironing that many purificators is itself a reason that this idea is a non-starter.
 
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Ignatius said:
I’ve brought this up in other threads, but I think it deserves its own. What problem would there be, if any, with receiving communion in the hand, but covering one’s hand with a purificator (or even a nice, dignified cloth handkerchief)? I do not receive CITH, but given the present circumstances, I can see that I am more or less going to have to, if I should be so blessed as to be able to go to Mass anytime soon. Both for reasons of tradition and hygiene, I do not wish to receive on my bare p…
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Receiving communion in the hand using a purificator?
Don’t do that
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And if the priest is okay with it, why not?

Again, medieval women used houseling cloths. What would be wrong with that now, that was not wrong then?

It is such an eccentric method of receiving CITH that, as far as I know, no rubrics or regulations address it. Most people don’t have purificators lying around the house. I may have a couple in the Mass accessories that I used to keep for a priest. You can also buy them (but they’re not cheap).
 
At mass last night, and both today, priest and everyone wore masks. Required to enter and participate. About 18 people out of a usual 130. Metal folding chairs placed 6feet apart. (To ease sanitizing after) No books/hymnals or singing. I had a the only other missal in the room besides the priest. Everything spoken. Priest brought communion to each person while they stayed in their seats. CITH only. Pull mask away to access mouth, immediately replace mask. (All kneeling optional due to concrete floor) I sported my N95 willingly to be there.
Pray for us all
Dominus vobiscum
 
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Agnus-Dei said:
Pull mask away to access mouth, immediately replace mask. (All kneeling optional due to concrete floor) I sported my N95 willingly to be there.
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You do know that this totally defeats the purpose of wearing and N95 and that you are contributing to cross-contamination everytime you touch your mask?

And that if said N95 mask is not fitted and cared for properly, including being disinfected/sanitized after each use it is essentially pointless?
 
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Properly fitted, yes, I am unable to receive and do not. I did not remove my mask at all. My description was for describing those in attendance, and in a reply to another poster concerning the priest wearing a mask. Everyone else had standard cloth masks, and removed to receive. I wore a certified mask, and did not remove. You might change your declaration of who was a risk to whom.
(Your assumptions concerning my use are unfounded.) Part of my “essential” job uses N95’s on a regular basis. Both cup type, and removable filter. Nearly 19years worth. I’m familiar. But thank you for your direction.)
Dominus vobiscum
@CilladeRoma
 
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In our Bishop’s re-opening clearly stated no gloves or other hand coverings.
 
Agnus-Dei said:
At mass last night, and both today, priest and everyone wore masks… I sported my N95 willingly to be there.
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Glad that you were able to attend and that you were able to use an N95 mask when some medical professionals still have challenges getting them. Also glad my bishop (and the neighboring diocese) is not requiring masks for ministers or those attending. Looks like each area is dealing with people’s fear in different ways.
 
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Agreed. Only reason I had/have is because of my job. I couldn’t imagine trying to find any now.
I think nothing about using them, but wearing to mass is very strange. Everyone looks silly, but that’s what it is. No mask, no entry into the church. I hope this is over soon and things go back to “abnormally-normal”. Praying a rosary in the side chapel alone, and muffled was off-putting but nice anyway.
Not fond of the empty fonts either, but it’s necessary. We will get by this.
Pray for us all.
Dominus vobiscum
 
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HomeschoolDad said:
Let’s see what the Angelic Doctor has to say about it:

But if the change be so great that the substance of the bread or wine would have been corrupted, then Christ’s body and blood do not remain under this sacrament; and this either on the part of the qualities, as when the color, savor, and other qualities of the bread and wine are so altered as to be incompatible with the nature of bread or of wine; or else on the part of the quantity, as, for instance, if the bread be reduced to fine particles, or the wine divided into such tiny drops that the species of bread or wine no longer remain. (St Thomas Aquinas, Summa theologica, III Pars, q. 77, a. 4, responsum.
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Of course we can do that. But to what end? Summa is not official church teaching nor was he part of the magisterium.
Then in order to discuss substance, this mysterious entity has to be defined and even verified to exist. So far there is no support for the existence of any substance. And what is “the nature of bread or of wine”?
There are Catholics, usually of the more traditional stripe, who would maintain that even microscopic particles, invisible to the naked eye of the person with average eyesight (or even keener vision than average), remain the Body of Christ. I wouldn’t go that far, but some do.
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So, who is right?
Because when Our Lord “touched the ground” 2000 years ago — aside from the scourging, the crowning with thorns, and the way of the cross — He was not being subjected to sacrilege. He wouldn’t have ended up trampled under dirty shoes, swept up with dust and debris on the flood, left in indecorous circumstances in the men’s or ladies’ room, and so on.
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How is trampled under dirty shoes sacrilege? Is the soil of the earth, you believe he created, somehow bad? He deposited a huge number of parts of his body to the ground every single day during the 33 years here. Including in the bathroom. Why would this be bad?
I am going to leave all this hair-splitting over particles, fragments, visibility, and so on, to those who feel a need to engage in it. The traditional practice of the Church, up until about 40 years ago, was for only the priest (or deacon) to handle the Sacred Species, to purify the vessels, to arrange for the disposition of species that might still be the Real Presence, and so on. Touching the Host was the last thing in the world any layperson would have thought of. I shall adhere to the traditional practices. Others will have to do what they see fit.
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And does this practice have any support from anything but scrupulosity?
 
Tis_Bearself said:
If you cannot obtain sanitizer at all, then a wet soapy paper towel with another one to dry your hand and carried in a baggie in your pocket will work just fine.
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Nope. Soap is not inactivating, in this case, the corona virus as the various sanitizers are. Soap is effctive when rubbed in and then rinsed off so the virus is physically removed along with the soap.
 
It was good enough for me when I was a kid and it’s good enough now. Take another wet paper towel to “rinse” with if you must.
I’m not hung up on this stuff, sorry. Muting now.
 
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First of all, I wouldn’t receive CITH because it’s against our Byzantine Tradition. Only priests, deacons & bishops receive CITH.

Second, imnvho I would not put the purificator in a pocket even if it was folded up many times. The Particles of the Host which is the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ could still come out in your pocket no matter how careful you are.
 
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Michaelangelo said:
And does this practice have any support from anything but scrupulosity?
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It’s not scrupulosity to make certain that the Blessed Sacrament is treated with utmost reverence and respect. God Himself is hidden under the appearances of bread and wine…
 
Margaret_Ann said:
It’s not scrupulosity to make certain that the Blessed Sacrament is treated with utmost reverence and respect. God Himself is hidden under the appearances of bread and wine…
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You don’t think reverence has gone into scrupulosity when people say something is “dirty” when Jesus obviously did not think so himself, according to scripture?
 
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Our Lord was scourged, whipped and fell many times on the way to Golgotha. He doesn’t deserve the same treatment today.
 
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