Receiving on tongue

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We don’t know exactly how the first Host was distributed, we cannot say with any certaintly what is wrong or right, forward or backward.

According to custom, in Christ’s time;

Giving the Sop Again, CHRIST’s giving of the “sop” to Judas was in accordance with certain Eastern custom still observed in modern times. John reports what was done and said: “He then lying on Jesus’ breast said unto him, Lord, who is it? Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot” (John 13:25, 26). What is meant by the “sop”? It is the most tasty morsel of food being served at the feast. It may be served in the “bread spoon,” but is more often picked up by the host with his thumb and finger, and handed directly to one of the guests. But why is a sop given to one of the guests? A native and resident of Bible lands says that certain villagers there have this custom of giving the sop today, and he describes the purpose of the act thus: **It is with them a mark of special respect for the master of the feast to hand to a guest portions of what is before him, or to insist on putting morsels or sops into his mouth with his own hand. **I have had this done to me several times, when the intention was certainly to honor and manifest good will. The meaning of what CHRIST did then was most certainly to extend love and friendship to the very one who was going to betray Him. The act has been described as if the LORD were saying to the traitor: Judas, my disciple, I have infinite pity for you. You have proved false, you have forsaken me in your heart; but I will not treat you as an enemy, for I have come not to destroy, but to fulfill. Here is my sop of friendship, and “that thou doest, do quickly.” [Manners And Customs of Bible Lands]
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Taken from: bible-history.com/links.php?cat=39&sub=477&cat_name=Manners+%26+Customs&subcat_name=Eating+Customs
 
Pfaffenhoffen said:
Receiving communion in the hand is something more natural and an acquisition of the Vatican II. Why going backwards.
Let us thing:
  1. would Jesus Christ give communion in the tongue in the first mass? No.
  2. Would the first christians give communion in the tongue? No.
Why then it appeared.
We must study the history of the Church and see why a certain Elohist vision of God led to it…
Vatican II put it to the origins.
Receiving communion in the tongue is too much like giving food to a child. It id not adult.
On the other hand, and that is what worries me most, it seems for some that it is a sacrilege to receive the Lord in our Hands !!! That we are unfit to receive in the hands !!! But if we are unfit to receive in the hand we are unfit to receive in the tongue for the same reasons.

But tell you, it does not cause any trouble to me if people receive in any way !!!
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Fair enough. I agree that it should not cause trouble for us that different people choose to receive differently.

In answer to your two questions above…
  1. IIRC the Jews had very particular rituals surrounding the meal like washing their hands before taking food. So all of the Apostles would have done this before reclining at table. We don’t do this before mass/communion - Why?
  2. Might the early Christians also have followed this idea of washing before receiving? I’s possible that they did…Something to think about.
The priest washes his hands before the offertory and consecration. Why does he do that?
We don’t have to wash our hands. Why is that - I honestly wonder…

I have watched people come up to communion holding a baby and move their hand from the baby’s butt toward the priest to receive our Lord. I’m not saying their hands were dirty…but OTOH…It’s not the most pleasant thought or image either…

The Church, in her wisdom permits receiving either way. This is a good thing.
We should not consider either way to be “marching backwards”. This phrase is what got you so many responses…

Peace
James
 
The_Curt_Jester said:
I agree. I’ve come across a number of priests who will try to ram the host in the person’s mouth before letting them say “Amen”. Yes, I’m serious. Maybe they’re rushing or perhaps they don’t like people receiving on the tongue? I’m not sure why they do this, but it makes it very difficult to say Amen – and then some priests get mad if you don’t!
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Kneeling helps to correct this, as it requires him to bend forward before jamming it in your mouth.
 
The_Curt_Jester said:
I agree. I’ve come across a number of priests who will try to ram the host in the person’s mouth before letting them say “Amen”. Yes, I’m serious. Maybe they’re rushing or perhaps they don’t like people receiving on the tongue? I’m not sure why they do this, but it makes it very difficult to say Amen – and then some priests get mad if you don’t!
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I have had priests on occasion try to lever me into Communion in the hand by lowering the host toward my folded hands and holding it there for several awkward seconds, until they relented and placed it on my tongue.
On one (and only one occasion) the padre became visibly angry and jammed the Host into my mouth vertically rather than laying it flat on my tongue.
 
bscastro said:
Want to explain this? Is this a backhanded insult in some way?

I asked a fairly simple question respectfully and the first respondent answered it quite well. The this?
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I have many hobbies. Insulting is not one of them…
I said that we must into the future.
REceiving in the tongue is going backwards. But that is my point of view.
Trust me: I may say whatever I say.
Insulting is not my job.
 
TrueLight said:
He’s stated in other posts that we should move into the future so he tends to not be crazy about practices such as COTT.
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Supporting shoulder.🙂
When I am in Mass, I do not know how people receive communion.
I am busy.
But if the subject comes, I give my opinion.
BUT, I think that there is NO DIFFERENCE at all receiving in the tongue or in the hand. What matters is Jesus, the Lord.
Now, if the person finds more devotional receiving in the tongue (and sometimes I felt like doing it!), what is the problem. God ahead!
 
JRKH said:
Fair enough. I agree that it should not cause trouble for us that different people choose to receive differently.

In answer to your two questions above…
  1. IIRC the Jews had very particular rituals surrounding the meal like washing their hands before taking food. So all of the Apostles would have done this before reclining at table. We don’t do this before mass/communion - Why?
  2. Might the early Christians also have followed this idea of washing before receiving? I’s possible that they did…Something to think about.
The priest washes his hands before the offertory and consecration. Why does he do that?
We don’t have to wash our hands. Why is that - I honestly wonder…

I have watched people come up to communion holding a baby and move their hand from the baby’s butt toward the priest to receive our Lord. I’m not saying their hands were dirty…but OTOH…It’s not the most pleasant thought or image either…

The Church, in her wisdom permits receiving either way. This is a good thing.
We should not consider either way to be “marching backwards”. This phrase is what got you so many responses…

Peace
James
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Yes, the sentence drew responses but I wonder whether it is my fault.
Let us think: in 50 years there will be communion in the tongue?
I guess not.
Everyone is entitled to a different opinion.
That’s what I meant.
“Backwards” may mean: 1) to the old times; 2) to the bad times, to underdevelopped times.
I meant “backwards” meaning to the old times before Vatican II. There are many practices from before Vatican II that are not desirable and i know many that people do not know for I was in Seminary. I had to speak latin to other seminarians. It was a cross! I do not wish that to the present seminarians. It would be to go backwards.
 
roadsend said:
I have had priests on occasion try to lever me into Communion in the hand by lowering the host toward my folded hands and holding it there for several awkward seconds, until they relented and placed it on my tongue.
On one (and only one occasion) the padre became visibly angry and jammed the Host into my mouth vertically rather than laying it flat on my tongue.
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Liturgical 😃
 
Pfaffenhoffen said:
I have many jobs. Insulting is not one of them…
I said that we must into the future.
REceiving in the tongue is going backwards. But that is my point of view.
Trust me: I may say whatever I say.
Insulting is not my job.
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It is currently an option to receive in the hand or the tongue. This is the present where we live. If in the future we are required to only receive in the hand or only receive on the tongue then we are to do so. You seem to be asking people to follow your speculative view of the future rather than the present.
 
Pfaffenhoffen said:
Yes, the sentence drew responses but I wonder whether it is my fault.
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Meaning this in all charity…Yes it is your fault.
Consider the OP…Repeated here:
*Originally Posted by bscastro
I’m trying to receive the Eucharist on the tongue after receiving in the hand for years. Is there a “standard” technique for doing so. I think the one thing I don’t quite get is how far to stick my tongue out.

I know both ways of receiving are accepted, but as my study of the faith continues, I feel compelled to receive our Lord in this way.

God bless,
Bryan*
you will not my friend that there is NOTHING in this post and question that asks ANYTHING about the validity of COTT vis-a vis CITH - Nothing at all.
The Post is a simple request for help in understanding proper technique.

Now let’s look at your response to this request for technical assistance
Why do you go forward marching backwards?
Excuse me for saying - but I see nothing in this response that offers anything helpful to the OP’s question.
What I DO see is a rather cryptic comment that leaves the reader to attempt to draw some sort of connection between it and the subject of the thread. Hence the various comments and questions to you regarding your statement

So yes my dear friend…I must say that it is your “fault”.
Let us think: in 50 years there will be communion in the tongue?
I guess not.
Everyone is entitled to a different opinion.
That’s what I meant.
“Backwards” may mean: 1) to the old times; 2) to the bad times, to underdeveloped times.
I meant “backwards” meaning to the old times before Vatican II. There are many practices from before Vatican II that are not desirable and i know many that people do not know for I was in Seminary. I had to speak latin to other seminarians. It was a cross! I do not wish that to the present seminarians. It would be to go backwards.
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Thanks for clarifying what you meant. That is a help…
But if I may offer some advice, I have learned that on open forums it is best to try to be clear up front. Short little “quips” such as you stated with can (as you see) be misunderstood, and distracting to the actual subject of the thread.

Now all of that said, I will note here that you did not address the specific answers I gave you in my response. Would you care to comment on them specifically or should we just let the matter drop?

Peace
James
 
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Here’s a complete, step-by-step guide to receiving on the tongue:
  1. When the priest says "The Body of Christ, say “Amen” before receiving.
  2. If your parish uses Communion patens, hold your folded hands low enough that the paten has room to fit under your chin.
  3. Tilt your head back slightly and hold still. I’ve almost been bitten by people moving their head forward so that my fingers go into their mouth.
  4. Open your mouth wide enough that your tongue won’t scrape your upper teeth and knock the Host out of your mouth.
  5. Extend your tongue straight out beyond your lips. The Host will stick to your tongue.
  6. Wait for the priest to remove his hand before retracting your tongue.
  7. Go to your pew, kneel down, and GIVE THANKS!
 
Receiving communion on the tongue is made much more difficult because there no longer are altar boys next to the priest holding patens under your throat in order to catch any host that might inadvertantly fall from a misfire!

Adds to the pressure of getting it right!
 
bscastro said:
I’m trying to receive the Eucharist on the tongue after receiving in the hand for years. Is there a “standard” technique for doing so. I think the one thing I don’t quite get is how far to stick my tongue out.

I know both ways of receiving are accepted, but as my study of the faith continues, I feel compelled to receive our Lord in this way.

God bless,
Bryan
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Here’s an easy way to do it. With your mouth closed, place the tip of your tongue against the inside of your lower lap. Then open your mouth by lowering your jaw, keeping your tongue always against your lower lip. If the priest is substantially taller than me or is standing above me, I tilt my head back slightly to receive. Do not close your mouth until his hand is safely away. In fact I often simply use my tongue to remove the host into my mouth, then close it, while stepping away and crossing myself.

I never, ever, ever receive on the tongue from an extraordinary minister (and for that reason try never to receive from an extraordinary minister ever). Also, I am not firmly committed to receiving on the tongue – in some circumstances I will receive on the hand. I do this occasionally at daily mass at my parish, where the chapel is very, very small and where, as a result, the priest is sort of at an angle administering communion from around a corner, practically. In this case it is simply easier to take it in my hand then to bump my noggin against the corner.
 
sw85 said:
I never, ever, ever receive on the tongue from an extraordinary minister (and for that reason try never to receive from an extraordinary minister ever).
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Why is that? Are you afraid they’ll drop the host?
 
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