Record High- 42% of Americans Identify as Independents" Republican identification lowest in at least 25 years

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rfournier103 said:
I notice you had nothing to say about my beefs with the Dems. Got anything to say about that? Just zeroed in on what offended you?

Apparently unlike you, I am not beholden to one party and follow it blindly. They both stink to high heaven.

What do we do about our trade deficit with China? What do we do to get more JOBS here at home? Or… what would you have the Rebublicans do about these issues?

The thing is… I don’t give a flying fig WHO solves our problems, I just want them fixed.

If you want to debate the merits and shortcomings of either party; I have enough ammo to bash either one back into the stone age. Just throwing my two cents in as to why I’m an independant.
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The reason I didn’t respond to your beefs re the Dems,is because in that regard you were spot on.Most of your comments re the Republicans,amounted to nothing more than left wing talking points:shrug:
 
in the state if live in, it would not benefit me to be an independent because if I didn’t like a democrat candidate, I would have to be a registered republican to be able to vote for a republican candidate to defeat the democrat. that is in the primary anyway. I have thought of switching to the independent party, but I think I googled them and I am not sure they represent me 100%. so at this point in time, I remain a registered republican although I feel there is not any political party that I feel represents me or I feel will do the job I want them to do.
 
rfournier103 said:
I refuse to support the Republican Party because they:
*LOVE LOVE LOVE to send our jobs overseas to places like CHINA.
*disgusting record on environmental issues. Earth be damned.
*are major opponents of OSHA and workplace safety. As a construction worker, this is very important to me.
*refuse to work with the Democrats. When they don’t get what they want, they shut the government down.
*care nothing for the average joe; just the corporate swine feeding at the money-trough.
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These are good points. Another problem with the Republicans is that who knows if they are for huge deficits or a balanced budget. For example, the Republican Dick Cheney has said that deficits don’t count and the Reagan had proved it. And the Republican Bush has run up huge deficits.
 
Tomdstone said:
These are good points. Another problem with the Republicans is that who knows if they are for huge deficits or a balanced budget. For example, the Republican Dick Cheney has said that deficits don’t count and the Reagan had proved it. And the Republican Bush has run up huge deficits.
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They both big government parties.
 
7_Sorrows said:
in the state if live in, it would not benefit me to be an independent because if I didn’t like a democrat candidate, I would have to be a registered republican to be able to vote for a republican candidate to defeat the democrat. that is in the primary anyway. I have thought of switching to the independent party, but I think I googled them and I am not sure they represent me 100%. so at this point in time, I remain a registered republican although I feel there is not any political party that I feel represents me or I feel will do the job I want them to do.
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It is the same way here. I switch my registration according to which party the candidate I want to support is in. I’m sure the party people think I’m bi-polar having switched back and forth so many times. 😃
 
_Abyssinia said:
When you calculate in the independents who lean democrat and the independents that lean republican, democrats have an advantage, yet multiple polls show republicans leading in the generic ballot for 2014?
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Are these the same polls which predicted a Romney win?
 
Jeanne_S said:
If you are so dubious about the accuracy of polls,then why did you post this thread in the first place?:rolleyes:
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There are polls and there are polls.

Polls are interesting to me. SOme are accurate, some are not.

And the “slobbering” 😉 media just eats them up- right?
 
ringil said:
There are polls and there are polls.

Polls are interesting to me. SOme are accurate, some are not.

And the “slobbering” 😉 media just eats them up- right?
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So what you are saying is you believe THIS poll is an accurate one?😉
 
7_Sorrows said:
i have always heard that most independents lean towards being conservative rather than liberal.
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That makes sense to me. The Democrats right now are pretty liberal so most of that mindset will stick with the party they most agree with. I know I’m not the only one troubled not only by the Democrats support for abortion but also for the abortion industries support of the Democrats. I think that alone makes me a conservative leaning independent becuause I don’t expect a pro-life democrat to run any time soon.

It’s definitly a pickle because I am liberal in other areas so I may end up sitting it out depending on who runs (I’m hoping the Republicans run someone more moderate). It’s a shame the 3rd parties are usually far left or far right. Nothing for a pro-life democrat.
 
7_Sorrows said:
i have always heard that most independents lean towards being conservative rather than liberal.
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I think what you heard is wrong. I would guess that most independents have a mix of some liberal and some conservative ideas, not leaning toward one or the other.
 
Tomdstone said:
You forgot to mention the margin of error, which always has to be taken into account.
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Sure, but even considering the margin of error, they were still off with their result as Obama won with 51.1% and Romney 47.2%. Gallup also claimed that Republicans would have a 1 point voter advantage in the 2012 election, and 3 point advantage counting lean Republican voters over Democrat leaners.

gallup.com/poll/158399/2012-electorate-looks-like-2008.aspx
 
_Abyssinia said:
Sure, but Gallup also claimed that Republicans would have a 1 point voter advantage in the 2012 election, and 3 point advantage counting lean Republican voters over Democrat lean voters. How much of a voter advantage did Democrats have?

gallup.com/poll/158399/2012-electorate-looks-like-2008.aspx
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Basically, the polls are showing a dead heat. The polls are taken from a sample of a few thousand people and for one reason or another people may not vote or they may change their minds at the last minute. And the polls are at most with an accuracy of 95% which means that there is a 5% chance that they could be way off. So, my guess is that the margin of error in the polls is larger than the advertised margin of error of 1%. Because of the various factors that can influence voters at the last minute, I would look for a final vote toll in the area of +/- 5% of what the polls are showing.
 
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