Refuting Old Earth Creationism - Help

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Paddy_Walker said:
but the actual age of the earth could be anything. in the early 1900’s geologists were working hard to prove noah’s flood and a young earth but i think geologists today may be a bit embarrassed by that historical fact and perhaps have swept all aside to embrace a long age earth of constant gradual processes. but there is really no scientific reason to suppose that cataclysmic processes could not occur on earth quickly, rather than slowly.
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That’s irrelevant since the invention of isotopic dating.

geology.about.com/od/geotime_dating/a/uraniumlead.htm
geology.about.com/od/geotime_dating/a/K_argon_dating.htm

The oldest known terrestrial rocks have an age about 4.2 billion years. The oldest lunar rocks are about 4.5 billion years old, same as meteorites. The reason Earth rocks are slightly younger is that this is time since the rock has solidified from lava – after the moon-forming impact, Earth, being bigger, cooled slower than the Moon.

Regarding the age of the Universe, a very simple calculation from the Hubble constant (assuming that the universe is, and always has been, uniformly expanding) yields about 15 billion years.

csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/cosmology/age.html

Current best estimate of the age of Universe using more advanced methods (and more complicated cosmology) is 13.7 billion years.
 
aux1 said:
That’s irrelevant since the invention of isotopic dating.

geology.about.com/od/geotime_dating/a/uraniumlead.htm
geology.about.com/od/geotime_dating/a/K_argon_dating.htm

The oldest known terrestrial rocks have an age about 4.2 billion years. The oldest lunar rocks are about 4.5 billion years old, same as meteorites. The reason Earth rocks are slightly younger is that this is time since the rock has solidified from lava – after the moon-forming impact, Earth, being bigger, cooled slower than the Moon.

Regarding the age of the Universe, a very simple calculation from the Hubble constant (assuming that the universe is, and always has been, uniformly expanding) yields about 15 billion years.

csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/cosmology/age.html

Current best estimate of the age of Universe using more advanced methods (and more complicated cosmology) is 13.7 billion years.
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Hehe;) Be prepared for some alternative science:p

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aux1 said:
That’s irrelevant since the invention of isotopic dating.

geology.about.com/od/geotime_dating/a/uraniumlead.htm
geology.about.com/od/geotime_dating/a/K_argon_dating.htm

The oldest known terrestrial rocks have an age about 4.2 billion years. The oldest lunar rocks are about 4.5 billion years old, same as meteorites. The reason Earth rocks are slightly younger is that this is time since the rock has solidified from lava – after the moon-forming impact, Earth, being bigger, cooled slower than the Moon.

Regarding the age of the Universe, a very simple calculation from the Hubble constant (assuming that the universe is, and always has been, uniformly expanding) yields about 15 billion years.

csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/cosmology/age.html

Current best estimate of the age of Universe using more advanced methods (and more complicated cosmology) is 13.7 billion years.
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I doubt it.

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Peace,
Ed
 
edwest2 said:
“crazy people” Great.

Stop insulting people. It’s not a good way to have a rational discussion.

Peace,
Ed
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I didn’t specify who is crazy - evolutionists or people that subscribe to intelligent design.

It was not my intent to insult anyone - particularly crazy people. If rational thought is not valued, it can be difficult to anticipate or defend against attack. Have you ever tried to persuade someone off their firmly held belief that the earth is flat and the moon landings were faked? You could fly them around the planet and still not change their mind. I am simply suggesting that if you see someone in a heated debate with a toaster oven, do not engage.

Peace and prosperity to all.
 
Offdoodykcrn said:
I didn’t specify who is crazy - evolutionists or people that subscribe to intelligent design.

It was not my intent to insult anyone - particularly crazy people. If rational thought is not valued, it can be difficult to anticipate or defend against attack. Have you ever tried to persuade someone off their firmly held belief that the earth is flat and the moon landings were faked? You could fly them around the planet and still not change their mind. I am simply suggesting that if you see someone in a heated debate with a toaster oven, do not engage.

Peace and prosperity to all.
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Doesn’t wash.

Ed
 
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