Reincarnation

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If reincarnation is a part of Jewish belief, and the Catholic Church stems from Judaism, why do they have differing beliefs?
 
Neither Judaism or Christianity, neither the Old nor the New Testament, teaches reincarnation.
 
I’v always liked the concept of reincarnation, but no, it doesn’t happen nor is it a teaching
 
JPUSC said:
If reincarnation is a part of Jewish belief, and the Catholic Church stems from Judaism, why do they have differing beliefs?
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And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment,

Hebrews 9:27
 
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If reincarnation is a part of Jewish belief, and the Catholic Church stems from Judaism, why do they have differing beliefs?
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Metempsychosis (transmigration)
Flavius Josephus (101 A.D.) reported that the Pharisees had a doctrine of transmigration. – Maher, M. (1911). Metempsychosis. In The Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton Company. newadvent.org/cathen/10234d.h

Lumen Gentium 48
Since however we know not the day nor the hour, on Our Lord’s advice we must be constantly vigilant so that, having finished the course of our earthly life,(255) we may merit to enter into the marriage feast with Him and to be numbered among the blessed(256) and that we may not be ordered to go into eternal fire(257) like the wicked and slothful servant,(258) into the exterior darkness where “there will be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth”.(259)
255 Cf. Heb 9:27.
256 Cf. Mt. 25:31-46.
257 Cf. Mt. 25:41.
258 Cf. Mt. 25:26.
259 Mt. 22:13 and 25:30.
 
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If reincarnation is a part of Jewish belief, and the Catholic Church stems from Judaism, why do they have differing beliefs?
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Different branches of Judaism have different beliefs on the afterlife, and a lot of these beliefs have been developed since Our Lord’s time. There seems to be a lot of confusion about it, depending on what rabbinic writings you follow…beyond me, anyway. 😊

Something i came across not long ago said that a soul will be made to animate another body if it’s unfit for paradise…and the soul can be split into different levels…

quora.com/Do-Jews-believe-in-reincarnation

and

www.shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/HTML/faq/12-08.html

and

www.myjewishlearning.com/article/reincarnation-the-transmigration-of-a-jewish-idea/

etc. 🤷

The third link’s probably the easiest to start with.
 
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If reincarnation is a part of Jewish belief, and the Catholic Church stems from Judaism, why do they have differing beliefs?
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Reincarnation is not an official part of Judaism. That is to say, reincarnation may be an acceptable belief but it is not held as an essential feature of the religion. One need not believe in reincarnation at all. The reason for its acceptance is that the afterlife in Judaism is not specified in much detail in the Torah. Further, the kind of reincarnation that some teach refers to finishing an important task that was left incomplete in this life, a righteous task involving Torah teaching and practice. Thus reincarnation in Judaism is not the same as the belief held according to Hinduism.

Besides, Catholicism may derive from Judaism but it is certainly a religion that stands on its own merits apart from Judaism. There are many points of disagreement between the religions, as well as certain similarities.
 
phil_at_dayboro said:
I’v always liked the concept of reincarnation, but no, it doesn’t happen nor is it a teaching
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There’s nothing to like about reincarnation; it’s the end of “you” as a being, as bad as if atheism were all true. Might as well be an atheist and grab all the gusto you can in your human life.

But while some Jews believe in reincarnation (there is no unified human eschatology in Judaism), it is not a teaching of the religion and appears nowhere in the Torah nor the Tanakh.

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Reincarnation is an idea associated with eastern religions. It sounds like hell, actually, since an endless succession of deaths may occur.
 
JPUSC said:
If reincarnation is a part of Jewish belief, and the Catholic Church stems from Judaism, why do they have differing beliefs?
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Moses never mentioned what happened in the afterlife, therefore, various understandings were formulated based on what people wanted and what was beneficial to the religious hierarchy. Since God had ample opportunity to tell Moses and he chose not to, and Jesus spoke in parables so we wouldn't understand, I see no reason to accept that anyone knows anything about the afterlife regardless of whatever claims they make. I personally believe in a version of reincarnation.
 
po18guy said:
Reincarnation is an idea associated with eastern religions. It sounds like hell, actually, since an endless succession of deaths may occur.
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This has always been my take on it as well. I like my life and all, but I really dislike the prospect of having to live another one. Beyond this, there’s no real distinction between reincarnation and death in eastern religions since you loose everything that makes you you with each successive rotation… to me, that seems even worse than death. At least if I go to Hell, I’m still me.
 
superwimp said:
Moses never mentioned what happened in the afterlife, therefore, various understandings were formulated based on what people wanted and what was beneficial to the religious hierarchy. Since God had ample opportunity to tell Moses and he chose not to, and Jesus spoke in parables so we wouldn’t understand, I see no reason to accept that anyone knows anything about the afterlife regardless of whatever claims they make. I personally believe in a version of reincarnation.
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Edgar Casey was deceived.
 
superwimp said:
Moses never mentioned what happened in the afterlife, therefore, various understandings were formulated based on what people wanted and what was beneficial to the religious hierarchy. Since God had ample opportunity to tell Moses and he chose not to, and Jesus spoke in parables so we wouldn’t understand, I see no reason to accept that anyone knows anything about the afterlife regardless of whatever claims they make. I personally believe in a version of reincarnation.
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St. Paul does away with the entire concept of Reincarnation:

Hebrews 9: 27-28
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Just as it is appointed that human beings die once, and after this the judgment,
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so also Christ, offered once to take away the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to take away sin but to bring salvation to those who eagerly await him.
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We die once. Since we only die once, reincarnation is impossible.
 
meltzerboy said:
Reincarnation is not an official part of Judaism. That is to say, reincarnation may be an acceptable belief but it is not held as an essential feature of the religion. One need not believe in reincarnation at all. The reason for its acceptance is that the afterlife in Judaism is not specified in much detail in the Torah. Further, the kind of reincarnation that some teach refers to finishing an important task that was left incomplete in this life, a righteous task involving Torah teaching and practice. Thus reincarnation in Judaism is not the same as the belief held according to Hinduism.

Besides, Catholicism may derive from Judaism but it is certainly a religion that stands on its own merits apart from Judaism. There are many points of disagreement between the religions, as well as certain similarities.
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Well that’s a relief.

The Chabad website said this:

chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/380599/jewish/Judaism-and-Reincarnation.htm

chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/361889/jewish/Reincarnation.htm
 
ProdglArchitect said:
This has always been my take on it as well. I like my life and all, but I really dislike the prospect of having to live another one. Beyond this, there’s no real distinction between reincarnation and death in eastern religions since you loose everything that makes you you with each successive rotation… to me, that seems even worse than death. At least if I go to Hell, I’m still me.
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  • 1! At last some one gets it!
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ProdglArchitect said:
This has always been my take on it as well. I like my life and all, but I really dislike the prospect of having to live another one. Beyond this, there’s no real distinction between reincarnation and death in eastern religions since you loose everything that makes you you with each successive rotation… to me, that seems even worse than death. At least if I go to Hell, I’m still me.
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Right , who is anybody, if reincarnation is true 🤷
 
Techno2000 said:
Right , who is anybody, if reincarnation is true 🤷
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The idea is that the individual soul has multiple incarnations, which one may eventually recall when the state of consciousness is elevated. Such a different idea than the person (soul-body) in Christianity where there are only two incarnations, the original and the resurrection.
 
I think the philosophical case for reincarnation is indisputable. Anecdotal evidence and the beauty of the idea are just icing on the cake.
 
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