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So what? A central commission.
Did you read the above posts?
Did you read the above posts?
Renowned epidemiologist sees 'massive disinformation campaign' against hydroxychloroquine
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a government-organized task force of doctors and other medical experts
Yes they say that HCQ has never been approved and is not recommended in South Korea.
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Motherwit . . .
But so what? Other experts disagree with them.
American physicians still use it too.
Now what?
We need to design studies that take it to the next level to answer that question that’s what.
And the left has done all they can to HINDER such scientific investigation.
Yet hydroxychloroquine is still being used. And used allegedly successfully.
Do you understand doctors treating patients are experts too?
Comissions say that in America too.
But so what? Other experts disagree with them.
American physicians still use it too.
Now what?
We need to design studies that take it to the next level to answer that question that’s what.
And the left has done all they can to HINDER such scientific investigation.
Yet hydroxychloroquine is still being used. And used allegedly successfully.
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I don’t know anything about HCQ use in South Korea. I do know, however, that there is no HIPAA in South Korea. They publicly identify persons who have Covid so people can avoid contact with them in case they break the strong quarantine rules.
But unless a successful vaccine comes along, SoKo has simply put off the reckoning. As NZ demonstrated, you can’t completely seal off a country enough to keep out a highly contagious disease.
But unless a successful vaccine comes along, SoKo has simply put off the reckoning. As NZ demonstrated, you can’t completely seal off a country enough to keep out a highly contagious disease.
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Thbolt (here) . . .
They are very self-evident.
And here is what I REALLY said . . .
But the national leftists are beyond the point where they are ignorantly (they just don’t know) claiming hydroxychloroquine isn’t working . . . . They are now to the point where at least some of them are HINDERING the proper research being done.
And this is not only self-destructive of these people,
but it is (envious) destructive of others too from these leftists doing this.
Thbolt several posts earlier (here - bold mine) . . . .
As I said to Thbolt here . . . .
And as I suggested to the readers here before . . . Draw your own conclusions.
They are very self-evident.
And here is what I REALLY said . . .
And that is WHY I have ALSO said more research needs to be done.
But the national leftists are beyond the point where they are ignorantly (they just don’t know) claiming hydroxychloroquine isn’t working . . . . They are now to the point where at least some of them are HINDERING the proper research being done.
And this is not only self-destructive of these people,
but it is (envious) destructive of others too from these leftists doing this.
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There is at least some evidence of corruption behind the withdrawn articles at the Lancet and the NEJM. You refused to review it, therefore it doesn’t exist as far as you are concerned.
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Thbolt . . .
What IS relevant is that further study be done to answer such issues.
Not run down rabbit holes about my beliefs here.
My “beliefs” about that are irrelevant to the thread.
What IS relevant is that further study be done to answer such issues.
Not run down rabbit holes about my beliefs here.
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Thbolt . . .
No.
LeafByNiggle
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Is there? Or was it just a poorly done study? It sometimes happens that articles in professional journals are withdrawn when further investigation reveals flaws in the original. It does not always mean those flaws were the result of illegal corruption.LeafByNiggle:
There is at least some evidence of corruption behind the withdrawn articles at the Lancet and the NEJM.
But you are claiming much more than corruption in two articles. You are claiming ongoing corruption in the CDC and the NIH, still without evidence of same.
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Thbolt . . .
That’s fine. You can take it however you want.
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LeafByNiggle on two diifering fake “studies” in two different journals by the same “group” . . .
Good grief.
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Zzyzx_Road
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The corruption doesn’t have to be illegal.
Still don’t believe in the power of money in the health care industry?
Still going tell us there is nothing to see there?
LeafByNiggle
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Still waiting for evidence of any corruption at all in the CDC and NIH recommendations.
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Zzyzx_Road
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You’ll need to read this closely. From the header:
Remember remdesivir is the $3000 drug the NIH and CDC are currently pushing. On behalf of who?
I’ll call your attention to a particular finding: atrial fibrillation is cited in 3 of 53 cases. That’s 5.6%, better than 1 in 20 chance of a severe cardiac rhythm disorder that can kill the patient outright.
By the way, the $3000 is just for the drug alone. It has to be taken via IV which implies it has to be taken in the hospital. Which further implies all the billing that goes with that. You’re the lucky one with Medicare, you don’t have to worry about that part. But the rest of us who pay taxes and/or face medical bankruptcy do.
The bad news about remdesivir doesn’t stop there: 12 of 53 patients showed hepatic enzyme problems. 25%! In other words, remdesivir puts patients at very significant risk of liver disease and likely cannot be given to patients who already have hepatic issues.
But remdesivir the $3000 drug that doesn’t work that well is fully approved while HCQ the far cheaper drug that isn’t as deadly is banned.
But you keep right on insisting that money makes no difference.
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LeafByNiggle
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Uh, where’s the evidence for corruption? Did someone in the NIH get caught accepting a bribe from Gilead to promote remdesivir?
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Yale prof: ‘Evidence overwhelming’ for fighting COVID with hydroxychloroquine - LifeSite
Harvey A. Risch told Fox News that opponents to the HCQ drug are engaged in ‘a massive disinformation campaign.’
www.lifesitenews.com
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Naturally I am going to post the LifeSiteNews article that was referenced and subsequently removed in Instagram’s (FaceBook’s) censorship . . .
(Here it is! . . . .)
www.lifesitenews.com
(Here it is! . . . .)
Yale prof: ‘Evidence overwhelming’ for fighting COVID with hydroxychloroquine - LifeSite
Harvey A. Risch told Fox News that opponents to the HCQ drug are engaged in ‘a massive disinformation campaign.’
www.lifesitenews.com
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