Republican convention

[Scott_Lafrance]

PM me, my (ex)husband has a Greek last name

My ex-wife is Greek. Their food is great…ability to stay in a committed marriage, not so much.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

That’s just awful. I did not know that Scott Brown was pro-choice.

Yeah, but his opponent, Elizabeth Warren is pro-abortion, an other things that as a Christian, I’ll have to refrain from posting

Pray to God that she doesn’t some how win.

Jim

 

[_Abyssinia]

Olympians to appear at conventions final night

gopconvention2012.com/news-press/press-releases/olympians-to-appear-at-conventions-final-night

 

[_Abyssinia]

Mr. Romney had been courting Cardinal Dolan since April. That month, the two had a private meeting, previously undisclosed, at the chancery in New York, across from St. Patrick’s Cathedral, said Peter G. Flaherty, a senior adviser to the Romney campaign who is Catholic and who served as Mr. Romney’s liaison to the religious community when he was governor of Massachusetts.

“We’re going to have outreach to Catholics in a coordinated, organized effort — state by state, diocese by diocese, parish by parish and pew by pew,” Mr. Flaherty said in an interview.

He added that Mr. Romney, a Mormon, had close ties with Cardinal Sean P. O’Malley of Boston and traveled to Rome for the ceremony at which the prelate was made a cardinal. But Mr. Romney sought out Cardinal Dolan to give the benediction at the convention, Mr. Flaherty said, because of his stature as president of the bishops’ conference and his proclamations that religious liberty is at risk because of Obama administration policies. Mr. Romney has echoed this theme on the campaign trail and in a television advertisement

It is also the message of a slickly produced video aimed at religious voters that the Romney campaign says it did not produce but that clearly helps its cause. The video juxtaposes people entering a voting booth with a blacksmith forging the words “life,” “marriage” and “freedom” in a raging fire, and it ends by asking, “Will you vote the values that will stand the test of fire?” There are two versions of the video, one for Catholics and one for evangelicals. The evangelical version has been viewed fewer than 30,000 times, while the Catholic version has been seen more than 1.9 million times

Catholics make up about a quarter of the electorate, but they hardly vote as a bloc any longer. The Catholic vote is instead a bellwether that mirrors the general electorate. Exit polls showed that in 2008 Mr. Obama prevailed among Catholic voters by nine percentage points

This time, Gallup’s daily tracking poll, taken from July 30 to Aug. 19, showed Mr. Romney with a slight edge among registered voters who are Catholic

nytimes.com/2012/08/25/us/politics/cardinal-dolans-convention-role-shows-gops-push-for-catholic-vote.html

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

nytimes.com/2012/08/25/us/politics/cardinal-dolans-convention-role-shows-gops-push-for-catholic-vote.html

Registered voters. So things are even better

 

[_Abyssinia]

Registered voters. So things are even better

Poll: Obama Losing More Support Among Catholic Voters

Obama has already turned off Catholic voters with his HHS mandate forcing Catholic employers to pay for or refer women for drugs that can cause abortions and for contraception and sterilizations.

Now, a new poll released today by a pro-life group shows what support Obama has left is eroding further.

American Life League commissioned a nationwide telephone survey of 900 self-identified Catholic registered voters — an August 15-19 poll conducted by ccAdvertising, a polling firm based in Centreville, Virginia. The polling firm gives the margin of error as +/- 3 percent. The focus of the survey was Catholic perspectives on the Church and nation.

Only 27 percent of the Catholics surveyed support President Obama. Of those surveyed, 74 percent of Catholic men over the age of 50 do not support Obama, while Obama support among Catholic men under 50 years is only 25 percent. With Catholic women over the age of 50, the president’s support is only 23 percent, with just 31 percent among Catholic women under 50 years.

American Life League speculates that such a dramatic shift may be caused by Obama’s HHS mandates and ensuing legal battle over religious freedom, as 73 percent of Catholics polled believe that the mandates violate their religious freedom.

“This nationwide survey revealed surprising results that should cause our leaders to pause and consider the consequences of their decisions and the impact it has on their constituents. Can Obama’s support among Catholics be dwindling this fast?” said Paul E. Rondeau, ALL executive director. “One thing is certain: Catholics, like most Americans, feel strongly about their religious rights and are committed to defending their faith. Both Church and national leaders should heed this notice.”

lifenews.com/2012/08/23/poll-obama-losing-more-support-among-catholic-voters

 

[seekerz]

Poll: Obama Losing More Support Among Catholic Voters

lifenews.com/2012/08/23/poll-obama-losing-more-support-among-catholic-voters

Maybe he needs to get a few religious to greet and stand behind him while he speaks, like certain candidates I see on TV.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Maybe he needs to get a few religious to greet and stand behind him while he speaks, like certain candidates I see on TV.

Here’s one.

http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Louis_Farrakhan_391.jpg

 

[Corki]

Maybe he needs to get a few religious to greet and stand behind him while he speaks, like certain candidates I see on TV.

He tried that at ND and Georgetown and it didn’t work out as well as he planned.

 

[ishii]

I would like to know what people think about the omission in the GOP platform regarding an exception for the life of the mother and whether failing to include such language helps or hurts the pro-life cause.

I think that it will only hurt the pro-life cause more if pro-abortion Democrat catholics use this to try to help their favorite Democrat candidates get elected. The platform uses basically the same language as in 2008. The real question is not about what effect the platform wording will have on GOP chances, but how Catholics could support the Democrat party which is okay with a million unborn killed every year. Shame on pro-abortion Democrat catholics.

Ishii

 

[Sjonesd3]

Even worse, I hear that the president swore his oath of office on a BIBLE! Someone call the FREEDOM FROM RELIGION FOUNDATION! POLITICIANS can’t be RELIGIOUS!

Geez…

They might protest and “demand” an atheist person speak as well.

 

[_Abyssinia]

Obama Rejects Catholic Leader for Democratic Convention Prayer

lifenews.com/2012/08/24/obama-rejects-catholic-leader-for-democratic-convention-prayer

 

[markomalley]

From Big Government:

It’s going to be a powder-keg in Tampa at the RNC if George Soros has anything to say about it. Soros bankrolled the 69-page ACLU report titled [*Rights and Wrongs at the RNC * (http://www.nyclu.org/pdfs/rnc_report_083005.pdf)after the 2004 Republican Convention in New York City which detailed the extensive legal campaign the ACLU waged to suppress the police’s ability to keep order during anti-RNC protests. This was nothing new for Soros, who has been a major donor supporting the ACLU’s wars against law enforcement.

Now that very same report has become the blueprint for the tactics various leftist groups mean to employ in disrupting the RNC through intimidation and violence. Among the leftists protesting will be hordes of motley Occupiers, political puppeteers, Teamsters, Code Pink activists dressed as giant female body parts, open-borders extremists, vegan Marxists, and tattooed anarchists.

One plan is to erect a tent city called “Romneyville” alongside protests against any companies assisted by Bain Capital. These attacks mean to portray Romney as a heartless capitalist.

Democrat mayor Bob Buckhorn, a loyal Obama supporter, has joined with his city council to “negotiate” with the ACLU and the protestors for several months because the ACLU and protestors are demanding permits and special restraints on the police. While RNC is limited for security reasons, Buckhorn chose to use $57,000 in taxpayer money to rent an empty lot for protesters to “occupy” 24/7 in sight of it. He even approved distributing leaflets written by the city and the ACLU advising protesters of their rights and offering them access to an official hotline. Of course, Buckhorn is a leftist scumsucker; when he heard that a local strip club was featuring a Sarah Palin look-alike who would strip and sell her body, Buckhorn sneered, “I wonder whether the look-alike will be able to see Russia from the stage.”

Because of the left’s use of the tactics outlined in Rights and Wrongs at the RNC, cities that dare to host economic summits or try to restrict illegal Occupy encampments find themselves and their police virtually held hostage. The incipient threat of violence is never far from the surface. The ACLU and protest leaders repeatedly insist that they have nothing to do with any violence that may occur. But if the police act to protect themselves or others, leftist lawyers file police brutality charges, and brazenly accuse the police of “failing to protect” the public and other protesters if the police don’t stop the riots quickly enough. The police can’t win; no matter what they do, they are accused of “silencing free speech.” And the media is only too pleased to repeat that narrative.

Florida ACLU President Mike Pheneger is setting up areas for lawsuits; he whines that because the convention district is blocked off, Tampa is passing up an opportunity for “a nice, neat, tidy kind of exercise in first amendment rights.” Occupy the RNC states on their website: “Tampa passed an oppressive ordinance which strips rights, and makes virtually every participant an outlaw immediately by stepping foot onto downtown.” They accuse the “military industrial complex” of luring protesters into “a trap” in order to justify the convention’s security budget.

This reprehensible behavior began at the 1999 WTO riots in Seattle, which decimated the business district. And even when the police are found innocent, such as the pepper spray incident at U.C. Davis in 2011, police suffer; one Davis officer was still eventually dismissed.

The leftists code their tacit approval of violence in the phrase “respecting a diversity of actions,” which asserts that no protester should stop another protester from using violence or vandalism, nor should they report them to authorities if they know of such plans in advance.

Occupy the RNC, which calls itself the “above-ground coordinating committee” for the protest marches, affirms the “diversity of tactics” pledge as part of the “Tampa Principles” detailed on their website:

[INDENT]Our solidarity will be based on respect for a political diversity within the struggle for social, economic and environmental justice. As individuals and groups, we may choose to engage in different tactics and plans of action but are committed to treating each other with respect.

We reject all attempts to create divisions among our movements. We agree to not publicly criticize other parts of our movement or cooperate with state or media efforts to portray good protester/bad protester.

The actions and tactics used will be organized to maintain appropriate separations of time and space between divergent tactics. We will commit to respecting each others organizing space and the tone and tactics they wish to utilize in that space.

Not only does the first statement tacitly encourage violence, but Occupy the RNC has the gall to assert elsewhere on their website that they are not endorsing violence.

As Natasha Lennard, a freelance writer for the New York Times who joined the Occupy Wall Street protests, was arrested so she could have a story, and still calls herself a journalist, acknowledges:

Groups in both Tampa and Charlotte have publicly stated that their plans for protest are peaceful, although a mixture of permitted and unpermitted actions are planned. The Coalitions to March in both convention cities have adopted their own versions of what were originally the “Saint Paul Principles,” used by RNC 2008 protesters. The principles include a respect for “diversity of tactics,” such that if a group chooses to adopt more radical or less law-abiding tactics than another protest contingent, they will not be obstructed. Above all, the principles stress that activists will not assist law enforcement action against other activists, regardless of a disagreement in tactics. Whether groups will break windows, burn dumpsters, damage property or even adopt Black Bloc anonymity tactics to move through the streets cannot be predicted and would never be publicly announced in advance.

Unsurprisingly, the Occupy the RNC website taunts that martyrdom and bloodshed will occur at the RNC.

Here are some of the “non-violent” actions the leftists plan:

• Trespassing in restricted security areas

• Refusing to cooperate with police efforts to maintain order

• Blockading and disrupting businesses

• Providing certain types of support and cover for protesters who are planning to harass private citizens, damage private property, and attack police; this support includes:

• Offering a map with the locations of hotels housing the Republican delegates

• Offering a map p(name removed by moderator)ointing “evil” and “oppressive” corporations to be targeted for unnamed “decentralized direct actions”

• Pledging to defend the Tampa Principles: a statement of commitment to all protest tactics, specifically including property destruction and violence against police and other targets

And some of the major players are:

CODEPINK

Occupy Wall Street [and several other locations]

Iraq Veterans Against the War

Veterans for Peace

Industrial Workers of the World—Gainesville Area General Membership Branch

Vietnam Veterans Against The War/Old School Sappers

Earth First!

The Leonard Peltier Defense Offense Committee

Campaign for Labor Rights

Food Not Bombs [and several chapters]

Alliance for Global Justice

Nicaragua Network

A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition

March Forward!

Party for Socialism and Liberation

The Green Party of Florida [and other locations]

Poor People’s Economic Human Rights Campaign

Rainbow PUSH Coalition

National Immigrant Solidarity Network

May 1st Coalition for Worker and Immigrant Rights

Decentralized Non-Violent Resistance Movement

Socialist Alternative

One group, CopWatchers, has members who actually celebrate the murder of police officers.

(snip)[/INDENT]

My question is: I wonder how many of these groups receive grants from CCHD?

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

From Big Government:

My question is: I wonder how many of these groups receive grants from CCHD?

If I am not mistaken, nearly all of those organizations listed at the bottom are funded by Soros.

 

[Terry_Washingto]

As much as I respect and admire Cardinal Timothy Dolan, I DON’T think it is a good idea for him to give a benediction at next week’s GOP ( Republican ) Conference in Tampa, Florida.

His Eminence may argue that he(and by extension the rest of the Catholic hierarchy in the US) is performing a spiritual function and not getting involved in the election race between Obama’s Democrats and Romney’s Republicans, but I doubt very much if EITHER party will see it in such terms.

As with the Russian Orthodox Church’s support for Mr Putin’s United Russia party(which prompted the “***** Riot” band to enter Moscow’s Cathedral Of Christ The Saviour and peform a “punk prayer” urging Our Lady to “chase Putin out), and the Vatican’s support for the Christian Democrats in Italy during the Cold War, my view is that whenever a church(of any denomination) gets involved in the “nosh pit” of party politics, it almost invariably suffers in the long run- as a wag noted in the late Maurice West’s “The Devil’s Advocate”- the church wants it both ways, the kingdom of Heaven and the majority in the earthly parliament”.

Anybody else think as i do?

Terry

 

[markomalley]

From the Hill:

Vice President Joe Biden is postponing his trip to Tampa on Monday so local officials can devote their resources to Tropical Storm Isaac, the Obama Campaign announced Friday night.

Campaign officials said they were postponing Biden’s visit to Tampa – which was supposed to coincide with the Republican National Convention – due to an “abundance of caution.”

A release issued by the campaign said the move was made to “ensure that all local law enforcement and emergency management resources can stay focused on ensuring the safety of people who might be impacted by the storm, as well as those attending the activities in Tampa.”

The trip was part of an all-out effort by the Obama campaign to counter the RNC as Mitt Romney secures his party’s nomination. President Obama is expected to campaign in Iowa, Colorado and Virginia next week.

Biden is still expected to campaign in Orlando and St. Augustine Florida on Tuesday. But the campaign said those stops are also subject to change because of “weather-related precautions.”

It’s still unclear where the tropical storm will hit but tropical storm watches have been issued for South Florida.

Now if he would have decided to cancel out for the right reasons, that would have been a magnanimous gesture.

But the Obama camp obviously didn’t want the possibility of any bad press.

 

[ByzCathCantor]

Who might you recommend as an alternative?

 

[seekerz]

He tried that at ND and Georgetown and it didn’t work out as well as he planned.

I wouldn’t expect it to. Most people would find that so obvious as to be a tad condescending.

 

[Intentional]

I am not as familiar with how the Catholic church pursues social concerns but with the HHS mandate is there perhaps a non-political agenda in his involvement. Sending a message of support may be thought to inspire other Catholics to see the candidates more starkly? Romney, while not Catholic, Ryan, being, can be supported, in their stance against the HHS mandate. Or is that too simplistic a perspective? Does Romney’s religion matter to the Church?

 

[TheDoors]

Obama Rejects Catholic Leader for Democratic Convention Prayer

lifenews.com/2012/08/24/obama-rejects-catholic-leader-for-democratic-convention-prayer

A senior Obama campaign official said yesterday that the Democrats would have a “high-ranking” Catholic at the convention, but indicated the arrangements weren’t yet final.

“I can’t announce it because the person hasn’t got their plane ticket,” said the official.

Perhaps they invited His Holiness.