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LisaA said:
Short term fluctuations up or down are based on short term situations. Hurricane in the Gulf, prices up. Unrest in the Middle East, prices up. Lower demand, prices down.
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Just an observation:

hurricane = prices up 2-3 days before landfall
unrest in the ME = prices up next day

drop in demand, etc. = lower prices in 3-4 weeks
 
elgar said:
That quote just takes one’s breath away. It is SO over the top, I just can’t understand how he could say that and not have to back pedal to save face, but Democrats get treated with kid gloves as we all know. Come on you libs out there, at least admit it!
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Don’t forget according to Bill Clinton,he,meaning Bill, was actually the first black president…:rolleyes:
 
Jeanne_S said:
Don’t forget according to Bill Clinton,he,meaning Bill, was actually the first black president…:rolleyes:
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Please don’t repeat Republican lies. Clinton called himself nothing of the sort. It was Tony Morrison, a Nobel prizewinner who, in a 1998 essay in New Yorker magazine, called Clinton “our first black president. Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children’s lifetime.” According to Morrison, in the magazine, “Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald’s-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas.” Over the top, of course.

I’m not calling YOU a liar, not by any means!, but Republican troublemakers out to trash Democrats any way they can will pick up on any excuse to exaggerate such hyperbolic statements into condemnations of men like Clinton and pass them on to the uninformed. :mad:
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Please don’t repeat Republican lies. Clinton called himself nothing of the sort. It was Tony Morrison, a Nobel prizewinner who, in a 1998 essay in New Yorker magazine, called Clinton “our first black president. Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children’s lifetime.” According to Morrison, in the magazine, “Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald’s-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas.” Over the top, of course.

I’m not calling YOU a liar, not by any means!, but Republican troublemakers out to trash Democrats any way they can will pick up on any excuse to exaggerate such hyperbolic statements into condemnations of men like Clinton and pass them on to the uninformed. :mad:
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Duly noted…
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Two recommendations - worth listening to then, at least the once.
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Well, I wouldn’t say it’s wonderful music…I am just enthusiastic to see our priests using their God-given talent to relate to some people who might not think the Catholic Church has any interest in their demographic.

The 2nd one, with Fr. Pontifex, is more clever with lyrics, and it’s VERY Catholic. But kinda tuneless…I guess rap really is pretty tuneless overall.
 
LisaA said:
Great ad! Gave me goosebumps…
Lisa
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Yeah, well done! There was a quick transition from a little laughing toddler to a high school grad. though. I guess in a way, it seems like they grow up about that quickly…maybe it was accurate after all.
 
CMatt25 said:
I paid $1.35 to mail my primary ballot in last month. It was only for state and local and Congressional and US Senate. Not a lot of contested races in the primary. The Nov ballot with the RNC and DNC nominees, 3rd parties, along with all the other contested races, I’m thinking will have more pages to it. Of course I also took the risk my ballot would be delivered and undamaged and hopefully counted. Like I explained to you, to others their vote is so valuable and cherished they may prefer casting it in person. And not be forced to mail it in or approach their employer and have to ask for a dispensation and permission from their employer to vote. Maybe some even just prefer after they’ve prayed over it at Sunday church services, to then go and heed their call to vote. But since you don’t seem to like the idea of more people voting there’s no use for me continuing the discussion with you.
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I agree there’s no use discussing any further. Clearly you know nothing of Ohio law or its election process. Which just not so long ago, an Ohio voter could not get an absentee ballot unless they were 62 or older, voting from “out of county”, military or other emergency service, or were ill or physically disabled. Also you had to send for an absentee ballot if you pass muster so you had to pay for two postage stamps.

Now the state is sending you a free absentee ballot so you can vote, because remember not all counties could afford to keep polling centers open. In fact some counties are so poor they can only stay open for only a couple of days a week and that’s because they are mandated by the state, so the counties have to scrape together what little money they have left in the coffers to keep a BoE center open with a skeleton crew, who for the most part have limited experience since many are hired on a temporary basis.

This new measure by SoS Jon Husted opens up far more voter access than ever before in the history of the state of Ohio, but apparently you have a problem with that. You complain about this measure restricts voters but the facts…the FACTS mind you prove your allegations utterly false. I don’t know how many elections you have worked in, but I have worked in plenty and I think I have a slight more expertise on this matter than you. Absentee ballots in the state of Ohio (cannot speak on behalf of the other states) rarely if ever get misplaced or lost and if they happen to get lost, the voter can always vote a Provisional ballot and their vote will be counted.

Also I find it amusing and baffling that you use the word “valuable” when you make excuses for those who refuse (Refuse mind you) to either inform their employer they are voting or cough up 45 cents. Something of value generally means something you are willing to sacrifice for as for Catholics who sacrifice the pleasures of this world because they value the joy in the next. If one is not willing to make a sacrifice, it is of no value. If you value your vote, you pay the stamp; pick a day out of the 35 days to vote (which only takes a few minutes); or notify your employer you are going to vote, or simply show up on election day and stand in line for hours (and I mean hours) like many Kenyon college students did during the 2004 Presidential Election. Those kids valued their right to vote, because they gave up precious time which could have been spent studying, socializing, eating, bathroom breaks so that they could cast their ballot. They valued their right to vote and they were willing to make sacrifices for it. Also I need not mention the numerous Iraqis and Egyptians who risked their lives and voted under the threat of physical violence or death…those people truly valued their right to vote. So I must say when you use the term “value” to defend procrastinators or sloths, I find it utterly offensive and I am offended.

I believe it is important for every American to be informed and acknowledge the value in their vote, so don’t put words in my mouth. However I also believe that if one is unwilling to value their vote to the point they are unwilling to get out of bed, or pay a postage stamp…make a teeny sacrifice then I do not want them to vote; would I stop them? no but I do not feel it is in the best interest for them or the nation if an uniformed voter casts a ballot. The same way it is not in the best interest for a man to receive Communion if he is in a state of mortal sin. It does not help him and it profanes the Eucharist.

All in all if a voter is unwilling to simply do any of these things then they clearly do not value their right to vote and you are not arguing for their right to vote (there are no restrictions) you are simply making excuses for indolence.
 
CMatt25 said:
Lisa, this from a FOX News contributor gave a pretty good representation of what I thought of Ryan’s speech.

foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/?cmpid=prn_aol&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D199269#ixzz253HvGJnO
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Left wing lesbian rights advocate. She is always anti-Republican and Conservative. I love how people claim Fox is all right wing propaganda. I routinely scream and throw things when she, Juan Williams or Geraldo are on.

I noticed she too fell into the “Ryan blamed Obama for the closure of the plant.” baloney. He does not blame Obama for the plant closing. It’s nice to be able to make things up to try to prove someone wrong. Her Medicare remark was utter baloney. Aside from that it’s the Romney plan that is being presented by this team.

Obama DID take the money out of Medicare by decreasing payments to providers. His dirty little secret…there won’t BE any providers with the poor rates he planned to pay.

Sorry idealogues on both sides are spinning like tops. Glad you found a Fox News contributor who speaks to you. I find her loathesome.

Lisa
 
LisaA said:
I noticed she too fell into the “Ryan blamed Obama for the closure of the plant.” baloney.
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You have to credit them for all singing from the same hymnal, and it does always make it obvious what “church” you are in …
 
ByzCathCantor said:
You have to credit them for all singing from the same hymnal, and it does always make it obvious what “church” you are in …
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Yes as Ann Coulter said with respect to the claimed falsehoods with respect to the welfare reform provision that Obama removed:

When a campaign ad induces this much hysteria, you know Romney has struck gold. On closer examination, it turns out that by “every fair analyst,” Fineman means a bunch of liberals quoting one another

As you said, all singing from the same hymnal and no one bothers to actually address the reality of the situation.

Lisa
 
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