Republican Primary

[CMatt25]

Hello from SC. Rick Santorum has allot of support here in the upstate, and Gov. Haley has made a few enemies since her election, so i do not know how much of a bounce her endorsing Romney will help his campaign. In my area there have been Santorum banners up for almost two months, where as I have yet to see any Romney signs. I know this will change, but for now Santorum seems to have a more active support network. I believe Santorum’s message will play well here, especially his social message. I will be very surprised on the 22nd if Romney has won the primary.

Hello, our GOP primary is not until the end of the mo but I have seen a few Romney ads. Was watching Jeopardy the other night and one came on. Not one of those Super PACs but an actual “I’m Mitt Romney and I approve of this message” ones. Have also seen a few Obama 2012 bumper stickers. Our Tea party governor is not as popular either now. His support fell drastically in less than a yr after he took office.

 

[Cider]

As much as I’m not a Romney supporter I have to say he did pretty well last night in the debate.

I agree that Gingrich ( who also did well last night, but shoots himself outside of debates) should drop out as should Perry.

 

[CMatt25]

As much as I’m not a Romney supporter I have to say he did pretty well last night in the debate.

I agree that Gingrich ( who also did well last night, but shoots himself outside of debates) should drop out as should Perry.

I actually thought he did great as none of the others laid a glove on him. I didn’t watch the debate this morning though.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Because Obama is so much stronger on foreign policy? I’m not following your reasoning.

Actually, Obama has recieved high approval on his foriegn policies.

His knowledge of the Middle East, is better than any president we’ve had.

He has already begun talkers with the members of the Muslim Brotherhood in the
Egyptian government, in order to avoid misunderstanding them and to avoid them
Misunderstanding us. As aI read last week, the MB, supports the peace agreement
that Egypt has with Isreal, including Isreal’s right to exist.

Jim

 

[rlg94086]

Actually, Obama has recieved high approval on his foriegn policies.

His knowledge of the Middle East, is better than any president we’ve had.

He has already begun talkers with the members of the Muslim Brotherhood in the
Egyptian government, in order to avoid misunderstanding them and to avoid them
Misunderstanding us. As aI read last week, the MB, supports the peace agreement
that Egypt has with Isreal, including Isreal’s right to exist.

Jim

No doubt, he does very well in supporting popular uprising of Islamists, but he has not done well with Israel. Who is giving him “high approval?” Sources? Links?

 

[Ghosty]

As much as I’m not a Romney supporter I have to say he did pretty well last night in the debate.

I agree that Gingrich ( who also did well last night, but shoots himself outside of debates) should drop out as should Perry.

I actually had the opposite impression of Romney’s performance, though I can see why some people would think he did well. This was the first debate I’ve watched this season, and I though Romney was awful at presenting substantial answers to the few substantial questions he was asked. “I believe in America” is not an answer, it’s a rallying cry, and it’s an overused one at that. When asked about how he’d handle Afghanistan and the Middle East he said he’d “ask the generals”, which is the equivalent of a general answering “I’ll ask the Colonels”.

These are the signs of a very weak candidate, IMO, and I’m honestly surprised that so many seem to think he has “the best shot” against Obama. I can say one thing for sure, nothing he’s saying is going to pull in undecideds and independents, and that’s what he’ll need to beat Obama.

Peace and God bless!

 

[ishii]

Hello, our GOP primary is not until the end of the mo but I have seen a few Romney ads. Was watching Jeopardy the other night and one came on. Not one of those Super PACs but an actual “I’m Mitt Romney and I approve of this message” ones. Have also seen a few Obama 2012 bumper stickers. Our Tea party governor is not as popular either now. His support fell drastically in less than a yr after he took office.

Without using too much liberal spin, why do you think your governor is not popular?

Ishii

 

[JimR-OCDS]

No doubt, he does very well in supporting popular uprising of Islamists, but he has not done well with Israel. Who is giving him “high approval?” Sources? Links?

Uhm, the revolt in Egypt was against a dictatorship and in their democratically held elections, the Muslim Brotherhood won a significant number of seats.

That being the case, we’d best get to know them and begin dialog with them in order to understand them better and for them to understand us.

As it is, the recent article this past week and other’s that I have read and listen to on the radio, show that the Muslim Brotherhood is something quiet different than what our own media has portrayed them to be over the past years.

They’re not as radical as we thought, but in fact, quiet progressive.

As far as Obama’s foreign policy approval ratings go, ;

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/30/cnn-poll-obamas-approval-rating-edges-up-thanks-to-foreign-policy/

CNN Poll: Obama’s approval rating edges up thanks to foreign policy

Poll: Obama strong on foreign affairs, weak on domestic
content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/11/obama-strong-on-foreign-affairs-weak-on-domestic/1

You don’t need a poll to understand this, if you actually read with an open mind to just what his policies have been.

With regards to the subject of this thread, Romney’s knowledge of the Middle East aren’t any better than Bush and Cheney’s were, which to me is dangerous.

Jim

 

[CMatt25]

Without using too much liberal spin, why do you think your governor is not popular?

Ishii

Ishii, this thread is about Romney. Poster “Dirt” had said the SC governor has some enemies since her election and wasn’t sure her endorsement would have much effect. So I merely said our governor is not as popular as he once was either. I’m not sure if he’s endorsed or if he has plans to. The last I heard him speak about it, it didn’t sound like he necessarily had plans to. But that was back when Herman Cain won a straw poll. I suppose an endorsement from him could help among the GOP Tea Party faithful. But the governor appears to have lost some independent support. I’m assuming because people haven’t liked policies and cuts he’s pushed for. So I’m not sure how an endorsement from him might help in a general.

publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_FL_0627.pdf

 

[rlg94086]

Uhm, the revolt in Egypt was against a dictatorship and in their democratically held elections, the Muslim Brotherhood won a significant number of seats.

That being the case, we’d best get to know them and begin dialog with them in order to understand them better and for them to understand us.

As it is, the recent article this past week and other’s that I have read and listen to on the radio, show that the Muslim Brotherhood is something quiet different than what our own media has portrayed them to be over the past years.

They’re not as radical as we thought, but in fact, quiet progressive.

As far as Obama’s foreign policy approval ratings go, ;

You don’t need a poll to understand this, if you actually read with an open mind to just what his policies have been.

With regards to the subject of this thread, Romney’s knowledge of the Middle East aren’t any better than Bush and Cheney’s were, which to me is dangerous.

Jim

Ah…So, your “high approval” is based on polls, and I’m close minded. Thanks. I’ll take your liberal spin for what it is.

 

[rlg94086]

Uhm, the revolt in Egypt was against a dictatorship and in their democratically held elections, the Muslim Brotherhood won a significant number of seats.

That being the case, we’d best get to know them and begin dialog with them in order to understand them better and for them to understand us.

As it is, the recent article this past week and other’s that I have read and listen to on the radio, show that the Muslim Brotherhood is something quiet different than what our own media has portrayed them to be over the past years.

They’re not as radical as we thought, but in fact, quiet progressive.

As far as Obama’s foreign policy approval ratings go, ;

You don’t need a poll to understand this, if you actually read with an open mind to just what his policies have been.

With regards to the subject of this thread, Romney’s knowledge of the Middle East aren’t any better than Bush and Cheney’s were, which to me is dangerous.

Jim

Ah…So, your “high approval” is based on polls, and I’m close minded. Thanks. I’ll take your liberal spin for what it is.

 

[Yerusalyim]

I’m declaring for Romney…I can live with his positions. I accept his conversion from pro-abortion to pro-life as sincere. Part of my support for him is because the other candidates have shown they simply aren’t yet ready for prime time and the Obama machine would eat them alive. Santorum wouldn’t stand a chance against him…too many slips of the tongue…and I can’t respect a man’s organizational skills when he is so unprepared he can’t make the Virginia ballot. Gingrich has too many slips of the tongue…too much arrogance…and again, what are his organizational skills if he can’t get on the Virginia ballot? Paul? Enough said.
Romney has experience in leadership in both the public and private sector. There are no “perfect” candidates, and he’s the one I think can best beat Obama.

 

[rlg94086]

I’m declaring for Romney…I can live with his positions. I accept his conversion from pro-abortion to pro-life as sincere. Part of my support for him is because the other candidates have shown they simply aren’t yet ready for prime time and the Obama machine would eat them alive. Santorum wouldn’t stand a chance against him…too many slips of the tongue…and I can’t respect a man’s organizational skills when he is so unprepared he can’t make the Virginia ballot. Gingrich has too many slips of the tongue…too much arrogance…and again, what are his organizational skills if he can’t get on the Virginia ballot? Paul? Enough said.
Romney has experience in leadership in both the public and private sector. There are no “perfect” candidates, and he’s the one I think can best beat Obama.

I’ve made the same calculation. I’m not “settling,” as some people like to assume. I’m making the best choice from the candidates available.

 

[_Abyssinia]

Mitt Romney faced a barrage of criticism Sunday from rivals questioning his conservatism, his strength as a candidate and record as a businessman - WSJ

Huckabee says other candidates are being too soft on Romney - Washington Times

NPR says time is running out to knock Romney down.

The New York Times examines the NH Union Leader’s relentless attacks on Mitt Romney…

One of the Union Leader’s attacks: “Romney may be the worst candidate… Romney would be a disaster as the nominee”

Facing attacks from left and right, Romney rallies with Governor Christie - The Hill

“As happens at most of Romney’s rallies, protesters interrupted the candidate’s stump speech with chants of “Mitt kills jobs! Mitt kills jobs! Mitt kills jobs!” At another point, protesters chanted, “Christie kills jobs! Christie kills jobs,” drawing a rebuke from the New Jersey governor who accused them of “Barack Obama-induced anger.”” - USA Today

Romney the Bain businessman under the microscope

The Wall Street Journal undertakes comprehensive assessment of Mitt Romney’s time at Bain capital

PAC Ads to Attack Romney as Predatory Capitalist - New York Times

Romney is now seeking to portray himself as a rags-to-riches businessman - Politico

Romney is worth an estimated $250 million. It seems a bit far fetched that “he could relate to struggling Americans,” as Boxer reported he was attempting to do, by talking about jobs, paychecks, and pink slips." - Weekly Standard

Gingrich leads the attack: “With just hours to go before voting begins in the New Hampshire primary, Newt Gingrich is taking an extraordinary gamble, betting that Republican voters who once rejected his critique of Mitt Romney’s business record will change their minds when they learn more about what Romney actually did in the 1980s and 1990s as head of Bain Capital. “I don’t think a Milton Friedman or a Hayek would say to you, rich guys have to go and rip off companies and leave a wreckage behind,” Gingrich said in an interview after a town hall appearance here Sunday night. “I think that’s plundering. I don’t think that’s capitalism.”” - Washington Examiner

 

[Monte_RCMS]

Romney says he would work with the Democrats.

THAT is the John McCain strategy for defeat and disaster.

Meanwhile, the Democrats have pledged to work against any Republican president.

Why on earth would Republican voters seek a nominee who says he will work with the other side.

THAT is what leads to disaster and defeat … that Romney would say a thing like that should automatically disqualify Romney.

Obama advisors admit that Romney would be the weakest Republican nominee. AND that Romney would be the easiest for Obama to defeat.

 

[Ghosty]

Romney says he would work with the Democrats.

THAT is the John McCain strategy for defeat and disaster.

Meanwhile, the Democrats have pledged to work against any Republican president.

Why on earth would Republican voters seek a nominee who says he will work with the other side.

THAT is what leads to disaster and defeat … that Romney would say a thing like that should automatically disqualify Romney.

Obama advisors admit that Romney would be the weakest Republican nominee. AND that Romney would be the easiest for Obama to defeat.

This is my feeling as well, and I’m honestly surprised how many people don’t see this on the GOP side. Romney is short on substantial answers and policies, and his views are not markedly different from Obama in most things. The average person, when given the choice between two options that appear the same, will go with the one they’re familiar with, and that’s Obama in this case.

Romney has no chance to pull independents and disaffected Democrats, and that’s what is needed to beat Obama. Just looking and sounding like the comic-book version of a GOP president isn’t going to get people out of their voting ruts. On this count I actually think Ron Paul has the best chance of undermining Obama, but only if traditional GOP voters stick with him if he becomes the nominee. The other candidates are too detested by the left to make any headway, espescially Santorum. I understand that Ron Paul’s views are not liked by many in the GOP, I’m just speaking from a strategic standpoint here.

Most devout Democrats and Obama supporters I hear love the idea of a Romney nomination, and I chuckle when Republican analysts are surprised at this fact. Romney isn’t the anti-Obama, he’s the less charismatic “rich White-guy” Obama in the perception of most I’ve heard from outside the GOP. I think Napalitano’s assesment was spot on, and reflects the views of most Americans, even if his support for Paul is still outside the “mainstream”.

Peace and God bless!

 

[vz71]

Am I the only one bothered with the fact that the media has not gone after Romney the same way they have gone after other candidates?

If there is any truth that the media has been attacking those that they fear, then this little tidbit says volumes.

 

[jam070406]

This is my feeling as well, and I’m honestly surprised how many people don’t see this on the GOP side. Romney is short on substantial answers and policies, and his views are not markedly different from Obama in most things. The average person, when given the choice between two options that appear the same, will go with the one they’re familiar with, and that’s Obama in this case.

Romney has no chance to pull independents and disaffected Democrats, and that’s what is needed to beat Obama. Just looking and sounding like the comic-book version of a GOP president isn’t going to get people out of their voting ruts. On this count I actually think Ron Paul has the best chance of undermining Obama, but only if traditional GOP voters stick with him if he becomes the nominee. The other candidates are too detested by the left to make any headway, espescially Santorum. I understand that Ron Paul’s views are not liked by many in the GOP, I’m just speaking from a strategic standpoint here.

Most devout Democrats and Obama supporters I hear love the idea of a Romney nomination, and I chuckle when Republican analysts are surprised at this fact. Romney isn’t the anti-Obama, he’s the less charismatic “rich White-guy” Obama in the perception of most I’ve heard from outside the GOP. I think Napalitano’s assesment was spot on, and reflects the views of most Americans, even if his support for Paul is still outside the “mainstream”.

Peace and God bless!

I think you are spot on. Romney is a joke.

 

[Monte_RCMS]

This is my feeling as well, and I’m honestly surprised how many people don’t see this on the GOP side. Romney is short on substantial answers and policies, and his views are not markedly different from Obama in most things. The average person, when given the choice between two options that appear the same, will go with the one they’re familiar with, and that’s Obama in this case.

Romney has no chance to pull independents and disaffected Democrats, and that’s what is needed to beat Obama. Just looking and sounding like the comic-book version of a GOP president isn’t going to get people out of their voting ruts. On this count I actually think Ron Paul has the best chance of undermining Obama, but only if traditional GOP voters stick with him if he becomes the nominee. The other candidates are too detested by the left to make any headway, espescially Santorum. I understand that Ron Paul’s views are not liked by many in the GOP, I’m just speaking from a strategic standpoint here.

Most devout Democrats and Obama supporters I hear love the idea of a Romney nomination, and I chuckle when Republican analysts are surprised at this fact. Romney isn’t the anti-Obama, he’s the less charismatic “rich White-guy” Obama in the perception of most I’ve heard from outside the GOP. I think Napalitano’s assesment was spot on, and reflects the views of most Americans, even if his support for Paul is still outside the “mainstream”.

Peace and God bless!

Ghosty, if you and I continue to agree, then people are going to start talking!!

 

[Monte_RCMS]

Am I the only one bothered with the fact that the media has not gone after Romney the same way they have gone after other candidates?

If there is any truth that the media has been attacking those that they fear, then this little tidbit says volumes.

Well, we need to reflect on the words of Donna Brazile:

freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830586/posts

In Which I Agree with Donna Brazile
The Corner ^ | 1/9/2012 | Michael Walsh
Posted on January 9, 2012 11:41:16 AM EST by TBBT

Sorry, but the lady’s right. From my New York Post column today:

Lost in the weekend’s back-to-back debates in New Hampshire was this illuminating remark by Democratic strategist Donna Brazile after Saturday night’s soporific contest in Manchester: “Mitt Romney won tonight because no one touched him. And for Democrats, you know what? It was good news for us . . . because we believe that the weakest candidate is the candidate that the Republicans are not attacking. And that’s Mitt Romney.”

The remark drew guffaws from some of the other assembled party faithful and media commentators, but Brazile spoke the truth. Democrats do believe that Romney is eminently beatable, the perfect foil for President Obama, in fact.

And yesterday’s debate on “Meet the Press” amply illustrated her point.