Republicans - will they ever learn?

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Veritas:
Would you like a sentence diagram?
Please! No copy and paste this time, liberal! 👍
 
Here ya go. Trying reading it slowly. 😛
“Go check out the “Conversion for President Bush” thread in the JP II forum.”
This is a word-for-word copy of your advice from your earlier post. So far so good.
“Some people actually believe he tells lies…”
However, here is the proper conclusion to draw. (“He” refers to Bush, of course, since there is no other single male referred to earlier in the sentence.)
“…when they themselves…”
i.e., the people making the false accusation
“…lie that others are for his canonization!”
showing the hypocrisy of those on the left. No one suggested that Bush should be canonized as you would have it… Sheesh.
 
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Veritas:
Here ya go. Trying reading it slowly. 😛
This is a word-for-word copy of your advice from your earlier post. So far so good.

However, here is the proper conclusion to draw.

i.e., the people making the false accusation

showing the hypocrisy of those on the left. No one suggested that Bush should be canonized as you would have it… Sheesh.
Uh oh. What is this little quote? I think it proves you wrong, liberal! 👍

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http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon1.gif Re: Conversion for President Bush
I would pray for the President’s conversion to Catholicism. Then perhaps we will witness the canonization of the first US President.

I for one would advocate for President Bush’s canonization even if he NEVER becomes Catholic simply because of all the good he has done.

Good try, liberal. Maybe next year!
 
Oooh, ya got me 😛

I didn’t think anyone could be as wacky as you claimed.

Just shows ta go ya…
 
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Veritas:
Oooh, ya got me 😛

I didn’t think anyone could be as wacky as you claimed.

Just shows ta go ya…
It’s okay, liberal. I forgive you! 👋
 
George Bush…canonized? :rotfl:

Riiiiiight.
(Sometimes it’s hard bein’ a lonely democrat on the forum. Well, I think I’m one of the few. But, I love you guys anyway. 🙂 )
 
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Celia:
George Bush…canonized? :rotfl:

Riiiiiight.
(Sometimes it’s hard bein’ a lonely democrat on the forum. Well, I think I’m one of the few. But, I love you guys anyway. 🙂 )
Oh, if you could only convert your party away from its anti-Catholicism! Good Catholic Democrats could help change that party and get it back on the right track,
 
IT is clear by only reading a few of your post that you have an agenda against the Republican Party…our party isn’t perfect and there may be a few that are morally bankrupt in the Republican party…but it is a heck of a lot better than the Democratic Party (minus Zel Miller) where as having morals, dignity, honor, and integrity and being a Democrat are mutually exclusive…The whole party is morally bankrupt…
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Peter_Atlanta:
Alas, another morally bankrupt Republican falls prey to his own hypocrisy. One would think that if one is going to hold everyone else up to certain standards, at least those same standards ought to be observed by oneself?

****Senate Republican Caucus Chairman Jeff Miller, the sponsor of Tennessee’s Marriage Protection act, is facing divorce because of his alleged relationship with a Senate aide, his wife said.

Miller (R-Cleveland) has been the chief sponsor of the Marriage Protection Amendment, which passed the Senate in February mere days prior to the divorce filing.

Brigitte Miller, Sen. Miller’s wife of 15 years, said he is having an affair with a legislative researcher and that he and the young lady accompanied the Millers’ three daughters to a November Martina McBride concert in Nashville.

“They’ve been seeing each other for a while,” Mrs. Miller told a Capitol Hill reporter. “Now he admits things. But he said it’s only been since he moved out. But I know better. I’ve got things that tell me differently.”

Sen. Miller said at the time of the concert the aide was a “friend,” Mrs. Miller said.

A court date has not been set in Bradley County Circuit Court. Sen. Miller, who is representing himself in the proceedings, filed a countercomplaint with the court March 23. The countercomplaint said the February claim of “inappropriate marital conduct” is without merit.

Miller didn’t return calls to his legislative office Thursday afternoon but issued the following statement:

“My wife and I are in the process of getting a divorce. Divorce is a very difficult time for everyone. It is a very private matter, which is played out in public proceedings. Our chief concern right now is the best interest of our children,” the statement said. … “It became apparent over the last week or so that we have irreconcilable differences which we have been unable to resolve.”

The Marriage Protection Amendment, which passed the Senate floor Feb. 23, would place a ban on gay marriage in the state constitution. The amendment, which says marriage should be defined as between “one man and one woman,” will go before the voters in a November referendum next year.

Miller described the measure last year, in the first of two passages needed for a constitutional amendment, as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage.

**In addition, while pushing the marriage act through the Senate last year, Miller openly opposed an amendment sponsored by state Sen. Steve Cohen that would have included an “adultery clause.” **

Cohen’s amendment, which failed, stated: “Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee.”

Prior to the passage of the amendment last year The City Paper learned Miller’s brother and Nashville resident Gregg Miller was openly gay.

Gregg Miller said at the time he was surprised to learn Sen. Miller was pushing the initiative.

“It’s not going to hurt my relationship with [my brother]. He’s a grown man and I love him and my whole family loves him and we love each other,” Sen. Miller said of his sibling. “We support each other whenever we feel like the other person is in the right. But, if the other person is not acting appropriately according to the belief systems that we all have, then we still love each other but we disagree.”

Mrs. Miller said she has suspected the senator to have had extramarital affairs in the past.

“I think he’s played around for a long time. … It’s not any more wrong to be gay than to commit adultery,” she said. Link
 
No…what about George and Jeb, Zell Miller…Joe Lieberman…these are examples of fine politicians.
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Lilyofthevalley:
Why, oh WHY do people believe politicians are moral people? In order to be a good politician you need to be a snake.
 
I wonder if this person equates political affiliation with perfection…

I am yet to meet a perfect democrat or perfect republican.

Come to think of it, I haven’t met a perfect person…
 
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dumspirospero:
IT is clear by only reading a few of your post that you have an agenda against the Republican Party…our party isn’t perfect and there may be a few that are morally bankrupt in the Republican party…but it is a heck of a lot better than the Democratic Party (minus Zel Miller) where as having morals, dignity, honor, and integrity and being a Democrat are mutually exclusive…The whole party is morally bankrupt…
There are several Republicans that I admire:
Chris Shays, Olympia Snow, Lincoln Chaffee to name a few. Unfortunately their moderation and common sense are overwhelmed by the extremist Republican members of Congress in a headlong rush to become more conservative than Attila the Hun and Ghengis Khan.

As for Zell Miller - he’s been persona non-gratia since he went apoplectic at the RNC Convention. You guys cna have him.
 
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Catholicvegan:
Whoops. Republicans- they talk the talk, but have yet to walk the walk.
Whoops. Democrats. They talk the talk AND walk the walk. Immorality, killing, and perversion is good they say. It’s freedom of speech, freedom of reproduction, and freedom of privacy.
 
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Lilyofthevalley:
Why, oh WHY do people believe politicians are moral people? In order to be a good politician you need to be a snake.
Not necessarily. It is only because Christians allow it that this is often the case. It’s time Christians will only vote in people of character rather than people of their wallet - both Democrats and Republicans.
 
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Peter_Atlanta:
There are several Republicans that I admire:
Chris Shays, Olympia Snow, Lincoln Chaffee to name a few. Unfortunately their moderation and common sense are overwhelmed by the extremist Republican members of Congress in a headlong rush to become more conservative than Attila the Hun and Ghengis Khan.

As for Zell Miller - he’s been persona non-gratia since he went apoplectic at the RNC Convention. You guys cna have him.
Zell Miller speaks the truth…too bad…I doubt you like any rep even though you listed some …
 
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gnjsdad:
By the way, the greatest hypocrisy of this age, IMO, is that we’re all supposed to believe that morality has nothing to do with sex.
Exactly. This is also the greatest heresy of the age and possibly the thing that Satan would want us to believe the most except for His Real Presence in the Eucharist.
 
As soon as Zel Miller aired the Democrats dirty laundry…instead of taking a page out of his book, learning something and reforming…they politically excommunicated him from their party and even proceeded to become more abominable.
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aimee:
Zell Miller speaks the truth…too bad…I doubt you like any rep even though you listed some …
 
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Peter_Atlanta:
As for Zell Miller - he’s been persona non-gratia since he went apoplectic at the RNC Convention. You guys cna have him.
I’ve never heard a politician be so dead-on since… I was born.

Let’s review so more of his wisdom from a senate floor speech in February, 2004:

"The Old Testament prophet Amos was a sheep herder who lived back in the Judean hills, away from the larger cities of Bethlehem and Jerusalem.

Compared to the intellectual urbanites like Isaiah and Jeremiah, he was just an unsophisticated country hick.

"But Amos had a unique grasp of political and social issues and his poetic literary skill was among the best of all the prophets. That familiar quote of Martin Luther King, Jr. about ‘Justice will rush down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream’ are Amos’s words.

"Amos was the first to propose the concept of a universal God and not just some tribal deity. He also wrote that God demanded moral purity, not rituals and sacrifices. This blunt speaking moral conscience of his time warns in Chapter 8, verse 11 of The Book of Amos, as if he were speaking to us today:

That 'the days will come, sayeth the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land. Not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the word of the Lord.

‘And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east. They shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.’ ‘A famine in the land’. Has anyone more accurately described the situation we face in America today? ‘A famine of hearing the words of the Lord.’ "But some will say, Amos was just an Old Testament prophet - a minor one at that - who lived 700 years before Christ. That is true, so how about one of the most influential historians of modern times?

"Arnold Toynbee who wrote the acclaimed 12 volume A Study of History, once declared, ‘Of the 22 civilizations that have appeared in history, 19 of them collapsed when they reached the moral state America is in today.’ "Toynbee died in 1975, before seeing the worst that was yet to come.

Yes, Arnold Toynbee saw the famine. The ‘famine of hearing the words of the Lord.’ Whether it is removing a display of the Ten Commandments from a Courthouse or the Nativity Scene from a city square.

Whether it is eliminating prayer in schools or eliminating ‘under God’ in the Pledge of Allegiance. Whether it is making a mockery of the sacred institution of marriage between a man and woman or, yes, telecasting around the world made-in-the-USA filth masquerading as entertainment.

"The Culture of Far Left America was displayed in a startling way during the Super Bowl’s now infamous half-time show. A show brought to us courtesy of Value-Les Moonves and the pagan temple of Viacom-Babylon.

"I asked the question yesterday, how many of you have ever run over a skunk with your car? I have many times and I can tell you, the stink stays around for a long time. You can take the car through a car wash and it’s still there. So the scent of this event will long linger in the nostrils of America.

"I’m not talking just about an exposed mammary gland with a pull-tab attached to it. Really no one should have been too surprised at that.

Wouldn’t one expect a bumping, humping, trashy routine entitled ‘I’m going to get you naked’ to end that way.

"Does any responsible adult ever listen to the words of this rap-****?

I’d quote you some of it, but the Sergeant of Arms would throw me out of here, as well he should.

"But as bad as all this was, the thing that yanked my chain the hardest was seeing that ignoramus with his pointed head stuck up through a hole he had cut in the flag of the United States of America, screaming about having ‘a bottle of scotch and watching lots of crotch.’ Think about that.

continued…
 
"This is the same flag that we pledge allegiance to. This is the flag that is draped over coffins of dead young uniformed warriors killed while protecting Kid Crock. He should be tarred and feathered, and ridden out of this country on a rail. Talk about a good reality show, there’s one for you.

"The desire and will of this Congress to meaningfully do anything about any of these so-called social issues is non-existent and embarrassingly disgraceful. The American people are waiting and growing impatient with us.

They want something done.

"I am pleased to be a co-sponsor of S.J. Res. 26 along with Senator Allard and others, proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relating to marriage. And S.1558, the Liberties Restoration Act, which declares religious liberty rights in several ways, including the Pledge of Allegiance and the display of the Ten Commandments. And today I join Senator Shelby and others with the Constitution Restoration Act of 2004 that limits the jurisdiction of federal courts in certain ways.

"In doing so, I stand shoulder to shoulder not only with my Senate co-sponsors and Chief Justice Roy Moore of Alabama but, more importantly, with our Founding Fathers in the conception of religious liberty and the terribly wrong direction our modern judiciary has taken us in.

"Everyone today seems to think that the U.S. Constitution expressly provides for separation of church and state. Ask any ten people if that’s not so. And I’ll bet you most of them will say ‘Well, sure.’ And some will point out, ‘it’s in the First Amendment.’ "Wrong! Read it! It says, ‘Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.’ Where is the word ‘separate’? Where are the words ‘church’ or ‘state.’ "They are not there. Never have been. Never intended to be. Read the Congressional Records during that four-month period in 1789 when the amendment was being framed in Congress. Clearly their intent was to prohibit a single denomination in exclusion of all others, whether it was Anglican or Catholic or some other.

"I highly recommend a great book entitled Original Intent by David Barton. It really gets into how the actual members of Congress, who drafted the First Amendment, expected basic Biblical principles and values to be present throughout public life and society, not separate from it.

"It was Alexander Hamilton who pointed out that ‘judges should be bound down by strict rules and precedents, which serve to define and point out their duty.’ Bound down! That is exactly what is needed to be done. There was not a single precedent cited when school prayer was struck down in 1962.

"These judges who legislate instead of adjudicate, do it without being responsible to one single solitary voter for their actions. Among the signers of the Declaration of Independence was a brilliant young physician from Pennsylvania named Benjamin Rush.

"When Rush was elected to that First Continental Congress, his close friend Benjamin Franklin told him ‘We need you. . . we have a great task before us, assigned to us by Providence.’ Today, 228 years later there is still a great task before us assigned to us by Providence. Our Founding Fathers did not shirk their duty and we can do no less.

"By the way, Benjamin Rush was once asked a question that has long interested this Senator from Georgia in particular.

Dr. Rush was asked, are you a democrat or an aristocrat? And the good doctor answered, ‘I am neither’. ‘I am a Christocrat. I believe He, alone, who created and redeemed man is qualified to govern him.’ That reply of Benjamin Rush is just as true today in the year of our Lord 2004 as it was in the year of our Lord 1776.

"So, if I am asked why - with all the pressing problems this nation faces today - why am I pushing these social issues and taking the Senate’s valuable time? I will answer: Because, it is of the highest importance. Yes, there’s a deficit to be concerned about in this country, a deficit of decency.

“So, as the sand empties through my hourglass at warp speed - and with my time running out in this Senate and on this earth, I feel compelled to speak out. For I truly believe that at times like this, silence is not golden. It is yellow.”
 
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