Research Flat Earth

[OrdinaryMelkite]

Aristotle believed that all Earthy matter was drawn to the center of the Earth, so a sphere was the natural shape. He noticed that during lunar eclipses, the Earth’s shadow was round and he also noticed that when you go North or South a long ways, the stars that you can see change.

When a ship is at the horizon, its lower part is invisible due to Earth’s curvature. This was one of the first arguments favoring a round-Earth model.

Wikipedia tells us that Eratosthenes, a Greek astronomer from Hellenistic Libya (276–194 BC), estimated Earth’s circumference around 240 BC. He had heard that in Syene the Sun was directly overhead at the summer solstice whereas in Alexandria it still cast a shadow. Using the differing angles the shadows made as the basis of his trigonometric calculations he estimated a circumference of around 250,000 stades. The length of a ‘stade’ is not precisely known, but Eratosthenes’s figure only has an error of around five to fifteen percent. Eratosthenes used rough estimates and round numbers, but depending on the length of the stadion, his result is within a margin of between 2% and 20% of the actual meridional circumference, 40,008 kilometres (24,860 mi). Note that Eratosthenes could only measure the circumference of the Earth by assuming that the distance to the Sun is so great that the rays of sunlight are essentially parallel.

That said, the earth is not a perfect sphere. It’s not even a perfect oblate spheroid (bulging at the equator). It’s more pear-shaped (with the bulge slightly south of the equator).

Scientists believe that the earth “sags” like this because of the enormous weight of all those National Geographic magazines that folks have been saving for decades

Note that Eratosthenes could only measure the circumference of the Earth by assuming that the distance to the Sun is so great that the rays of sunlight are essentially parallel.

Those who are hard-core Flat Earthers believe just that. That Erastothenes assumed the shape of the Earth by assuming that the Sun is massively distant from the Sun.

Pythagoras was the first to assume the earth was round as a thought experiment. Plato and Aristotle enlarged upon it.

watch this, if you care to. youtube.com/watch?v=pGl8I3l-5ac

The majority of antique people “knew” the earth was flat.

Also------(and again I am not saying the earth is flat definitely; just open to some questions):

Do you really think the Earth is PEAR-SHAPED? Really? I know the idea of Flat Earth is ridiculous to many (if not most)-------but is the idea of Flatness more ridiculous than the idea of our earth being a pinched pear?
It’s also common sense.
I’d rather believe in a flat earth than that.

 

[Blue_Horizon]

Another knowledgeable FE YouTuber,would be channel called ODDTv.

I clearly cannot convince anyone through this forum through limited text, but I urge everyone with an open mind to consider looking into this. From weird astronaut videos, to fake pictures of Earth from space ,there is a lot to consider.

Would you accept it wasn’t flat if Richard Branson gave you a free ticket into orbit on his maiden rocket launch…

Or all done in a warehouse with simulation machinery just to trick you I suppose .

 

[HelenRose]

I believe there is enough evidence out there to conclude we have been lied to about our earth. My Catholic Bible does depict the early model of a Flat Earth. Do not look at Flat Earth Society, but watch Eric Dubay, and Jake Gibson, or " Flat Earth *********" (sorry, that’s what he goes by).

The earth can be round and flat, like a quarter, or maybe it’s an infinite plane, but research is out there. At a minimum, the world we think we live in, is not what they’ve showed us.

Do any Catholics actually accept this? It certainly is not in the CCC.

 

[Tim_D]

It really is remarkable that on a site devoted to the belief and practice of the Catholic faith that such a basic and fundamental issue can be seriously put forward by people in a modern society with access to information that would have boggled the mind of someone from as little as 30 years ago.

How is it that anyone can accept the doctrines and dogmas of the faith when they can’t even accept one of the most basic concepts known to mankind?

 

[OrdinaryMelkite]

It really is remarkable that on a site devoted to the belief and practice of the Catholic faith that such a basic and fundamental issue can be seriously put forward by people in a modern society with access to information that would have boggled the mind of someone from as little as 30 years ago.

How is it that anyone can accept the doctrines and dogmas of the faith when they can’t even accept one of the most basic concepts known to mankind?

Michael Voris is open to it.

There was a movie called THE PRINCIPLE which gave a geocentric view. Was “banned” in by certain people because of its geocentric viewpoint. Michael Voris had the producers on his show to explain their movie and the attempt by some to denounce it and suppress. It was actually narrated by Kate Mulgrew, (Capt. Janeway of Star Trek) but even she was forced to denounce it.
Here is a link: youtube.com/watch?v=0eVUSDy_rO0

Voris’s interview is there.

I do not think that Voris is a nutcase--------I have always respected him as one of the Great Defenders of Holy Mother Church. Do you feel the same way?

 

[Tim_D]

Michael Voris is open to it.

Oh, well, that settles it.

I do not think that Voris is a nutcase--------I have always respected him as one of the Great Defenders of Holy Mother Church. Do you feel the same way?

The same Michael Voris of the Church Militant of whom discussion here at CAF is usually banned? He is the David Duke of the Catholic Church. He claims obedience and faithfulness to the Church while no one in the Church accepts him. And that’s who you pick to hedge your bet?

 

[acarlson]

The ancient Greeks knew the world was round. Honestly, such a proposition as “flat earth” beliefs serve to dissipate any and all sources of knowledge, insight and intelligence here at CAF. The moon isn’t a solid object? Please. It is a strange hysteria that someone in a first-world country in the 21st century would take the position that they Earth is really flat.

This flat-earth thing started as a meme and people have taken it too far to the point of actually believing it just because it’s not “mainstream.”

 

[dshix]

Why don’t you request that it’s put there if you are so certain.?

It was a joke.

 

[Tim_D]

This flat-earth thing started as a meme and people have taken it too far to the point of actually believing it just because it’s not “mainstream.”

Indeed. How can one be taken seriously with the depths and intricacies of Catholic theology when the simple fact of the shape of the Earth confounds?

It would be hard to take one seriously who claims to be the ultimate subscriber to classic Newtonian physics when they maintain that a cat says “woof” and a dog goes “quack!”

 

[Beryllos]

It’s turtles all the way down.

In our favored version, an Eastern guru affirms that the earth is supported on the back of a tiger. When asked what supports the tiger, he says it stands upon an elephant; and when asked what supports the elephant he says it is a giant turtle. When asked, finally, what supports the giant turtle, he is briefly taken aback, but quickly replies “Ah, after that it is turtles all the way down.”

— Antonin Scalia

And he was a smart guy.

 

[Blue_Horizon]

I do not think that Voris is a nutcase--------I have always respected him as one of the Great Defenders of Holy Mother Church. Do you feel the same way?

No.
He is a nice nutcase in so far as he is bright but has little corresponding sense of perspective.

 

[Blue_Horizon]

It would be hard to take one seriously who claims to be the ultimate subscriber to classic Newtonian physics when they maintain that a cat says “woof” and a dog goes “quack!”

Reminds me of a childhood riddle.
How do you make a cat go woof? (kerosene and throw a match).
How do you make a dog go miaow? (it involves a buzz saw).
Apologies to animal lovers.

 

[QuestionEveryth]

Again, people are asking great questions,but the answers are out there. There is no curvature! Two boats at different distances, one “disappears”, but wait,pull out a great scope, and you can see it once again. This fake idea that it disappears because of the ‘curvature’ has been debunked.

If you are upset at the notion, I understand, I was too.but after more and more “ball earth” theories and wacky job Neil D. Tyson with his theoretical physics… I realize there are no real images of our Earth. A lot has been faked and u can find the proof of it if you do the work. If so much can be proven fake, why would you trust those lying to you about anything?

I challenge a globe earthen to view some of the videos from Jake Gibson and oddtv. They are relatable and easy to watch. Interesting and not boring.

 

[QuestionEveryth]

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I think it belongs in the Nuthouse.

Then you should comment and read on topics you care about and not antagonize free thinkers:thumbsup:

 

[QuestionEveryth]

No Globe=No Rotation=No Orbit=No Gravity=Not Heliocentric=Geocentric=No Big Bang Theory=No Darwinism or Evolution=No Missing Link=Not Random=We Are Unique=Center Of Everything=Intelligent Design=God, Gods, or Creator=Awakening Of Mankind=End Of NWO.

Not to mention all of NASA out of work and most Science PHDs having to go back to school.

(Got that out of a video). Hope that answers your question.
As to the first question, try this:

youtube.com/watch?v=h5i_iDyUTCg

He has a 6-HOUR one but you probably do not want to see but in small doses.

Like I said in the previous posts, he has anti-Semitic beliefs but are not in these videos. Take of them what you will.

I myself I’m open to them but not for whole proof.

Just want to thank you for your openness and contributions.

 

[QuestionEveryth]

OP, my husband and I have been watching flat earth videos for a few months now. Seeing as how the government lies and manipulates, I am open to the idea that NASA and others are misleading us. I don’t have it all figured out, but am increasingly sure that things are not as we’ve been told.

Thank you. That’s the journey I have been on as well.

 

[QuestionEveryth]

Do any Catholics actually accept this? It certainly is not in the CCC.

I am Catholic and I believe it. And I believe it probably more than anything Pope Francis will ever say, but that’s another argument.

 

[ShanPO]

I am Catholic and I believe it. And I believe it probably more than anything Pope Francis will ever say, but that’s another argument.

Do you believe the Earth is flat like a discuss?

Does it rotate, and if so, how and in which direction?

 

[QuestionEveryth]

I think it belongs in the Nuthouse.

It’s hard to question years of indoctrination. Allow yourself the opportunity to prove the globe to yourself, you won’t be able to, and I hope then you may have an open mind.

 

[QuestionEveryth]

Do you believe the Earth is flat like a discuss?

Does it rotate, and if so, how and in which direction?

Perhaps like a plate with ice walls, or maybe an infinite plane where many more “ponds” with land exist. Researching Antarctica and reasons why it’s so off limits has lead to interesting discoveries. I don’t know exactly what we’re on,but I am confident it’s not what they’re showing us. I won’t be able to answer everyone’s questions in length, but I know if you research even just in YouTube the information out there is amazing and life changing.

No rotation.