Resent receiving Communion from Eucharistic Minister

  • Thread starter Thread starter pmp147236
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
angel12 said:
40.png
Loud-living-dogma:
He never distributed Holy Communion. He was the one who brought it to the other priests and bishops.
Click to expand...
We don’t know exactly who he was taking it to, except that they were obviously Christians.
Click to expand...
So we should assume he was going to distribute it? Against all the conventions of his day?
 
Loud-living-dogma said:
So we should assume he was going to distribute it? Against all the conventions of his day?
Click to expand...
The situation was deemed serious enough to entrust the Blessed Sacrament to a 12 year old, and yes, from the story as it was told by the Holy Father, this was not the convention of that time.

I’m not going to argue with you. The distribution of Holy Communion ought to be carried out by the ordinary ministers, but legitimate authority has allowed extraordinary ministers to be used and has laid out what the circumstances under which they may be used. That is the “convention” of our day. Those who act as extraordinary ministers are trained in the manner their bishops ordain. Here is an example of how it is done; it isn’t just grabbing someone by the hem and putting them in this position with no training.
https://archdpdx.org/documents/2018/6/ALH First Edition - 3 June 2018-1.pdf
The entire handbook is quite worth reading, but I refer to page 14ff:

"1.21.10 Extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion should receive sufficient spiritual,
theological, and practical preparation to fulfill their role with knowledge and
reverence. (USCCB, Norms on the Distribution and Reception of Holy Communion.
Under Both Kinds, 2001: 28)

1.21.11 To serve as extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion in the Archdiocese of Portland
in Oregon, persons must:
a. Be practicing Catholics, distinguished in their Christian life, faith and
morals.
b. Be at least 16 years old.
c. Have received the sacraments of Baptism, confirmation, and Eucharist.
d. Demonstrate a deep reverence for and devotion to the Eucharist.
e. Possess the requisite abilities and temperament to carry out their assigned
duties…"
 
Last edited:
It always amazes me that having EMHCs would have been unthinkable, probably considered a sacrilege, for centuries, but some meeting in the 1960s turned all those beliefs upside down.
 
Loud-living-dogma said:
It always amazes me that having EMHCs would have been unthinkable, probably considered a sacrilege, for centuries, but some meeting in the 1960s turned all those beliefs upside down.
Click to expand...
That’s like saying that it is amazing that what does and does not belong to the canon of the New Testament came out of “some meeting.” Was it OK for Luther to quibble with what books belong in the New Testament because the list came out of “some meeting”?
The councils of this kind, convened by the Popes so that the bishops might come together as the Magesterium to answer important questions of their times, aren’t “some meeting,” any more than the Magesterium that gathered for it were “a bunch of guys.”
 
Last edited:
You know… Warhammer 40,000’s Imperium of Man (particularly the Echlesiarchy) was modeled after the Medieval Catholic Church to a great extent, but with mechanization, etc… Somewhat humorous to see that acted out in real-life. The servitors are coming, the servitors are coming.

Hi. My name is Hal. What are your sins my son, Dave? Dave, what are you doing? No, not the plug, NOT THE PLUG!!!

The Emperor protects 🙂
 
TheLittleLady said:
As my husband has spent more than a month in hospital, I thank God for every EMHC who has visited.
Click to expand...
My wife spent a few days in a hospital about ten years ago. I was there when an EMHC came to visit her. My wife sobbed with thanks and gratitude–and with the hope that her grandmother had had the same opportunity when she had been hospitalized.

So…whatever. Ya know?
 
I will speak to one of them. Good advise.

Yet, I am absolutely certain that priests see what was going on. It is not just an anedote, but what is a common practice in France (from what I see).

I don’t know of if thoses people are trained to do that or If it is their initiative.
 
on_the_hill said:
40.png
TheLittleLady:
As my husband has spent more than a month in hospital, I thank God for every EMHC who has visited.
Click to expand...
My wife spent a few days in a hospital about ten years ago. I was there when an EMHC came to visit her. My wife sobbed with thanks and gratitude–and with the hope that her grandmother had had the same opportunity when she had been hospitalized.

So…whatever. Ya know?
Click to expand...
Sick calls in the olden days. Before… you know…
Question: I"m not sure about the laity taking Communion to the sick. Maybe someone else can answer that question.
Answer: Priests did - and should - perform this function. Traditionally the priest would wear a pyx around his neck. The Priest would walk with eyes lowered clasping the pyx in his hand. An altar boy would walk ahead ringing a bell. All Catholics in the area would kneel as the Priest passed by. Such was the adoration shown to Our Eucharistic Lord in the ages of Faith. These days, Catholics disrespectfully pass Him around in their unconsecrated hands like he’s a cookie/wafer. I shudder when I consider the possibility of eucharistic fragments being trodden underfoot…
I have some anecdotal evidence of lay people giving out communion. It was under circumstances that were rare and unusual. If there as a war or an insurrection then a lay person might distribute communion in order to prevent a sacrilege…The Cronnicles of the Catholic Church in Lithuania describes an instance where a bishop allowed a woman to bring communion to her husband who was in prison as a political prisoner for her marriage. The Soviet Union did not allow the promulgation of the reforms of Vatican II at that time so the people were using the pre-Vatican II mass and rules."
"
Click to expand...
But, whatever... ya know?
40.png
Clerics and Lay faithful before Vatican II Traditional Catholicism
What were the responsibilities of clerics that the laity were forbidden to do? For example, only lectors can catechize children and adults. I’m not sure if this is true but this is the best example I can think of.
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
I understand.

I have been raised with the priviledge to have the Eucharist gave by the priest.
I take communion on the tongue.
After that, I (and we, with my husband) try to choose the “right” place to have a priest. And get annoyed when I cannot.
The existance of extraordinary ministers make me angry.

I am less concerned and annoyed by thoses things recently (babies, parish change), and my husband does not seems to find the right file for me. But that is not a good change. That’s means that my Eucharist devotion are more weak.
 
An interesting discussion about priests making sick calls, and sick call sets. Looks like quite a few people received these as wedding gifts back in the day!
40.png
Sick Call Set in your home? Spirituality
No I don’t have one but my grandmother did. She lived with us for a while and was almost blind. The priest would come on the First Friday of every month and I remember her having my mother set it out on a table and she insisted that she carry the lighted candle to the door to greet the priest with my mother guiding her. I think we probably should have one but I don’t know if they use them anymore?
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
anon48198893 said:
Cardinal Sarah is presently the prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments; I’d suggest that provides him more insight into this liturgical matter than many of his brother clerics who are tasked with other important ecclesial matters.
Click to expand...
Nonetheless, he does not have the authority to overrule the Church.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top