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Hawkeye916
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I completely agree with the OP
I think we’re only going to agree about this: Pray for vocations to the priesthood.TBH: I used the term “some meeting” in a tongue-in-cheek fashion. I feel like bringing up the words "Vatican II’ invites even more chaos to a conversation.
Nice deflecting the fact that for centuries, non-priests handling the Eucharist was a sacrilege. I link to this again:
http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage_print.asp?number=398899&language=en
That works, too.Hmm. I think the best idea is for the OP to attend EF Mass, if possible.
I know a lot of extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion who also receive on the tongue, so I don’t know who would assume that receiving on the tongue is anything of the kind.I personally just make it a point to take communion on the tongue, no matter who is distributing. If anyone reads into that that I disapprove of non-priests handling communion, so be it.
Praying for vocations of good and holy priests is for sure and area we can all agree on.
Praying is very important, but all the Catholic faithful who would only like priests and deacons to distribute Holy Communion need to work on changing the culture of modern Catholic families where the parents use birth control to limit the size of their families.I think we’re only going to agree about this: Pray for vocations to the priesthood.
Regardless of what you think about Vatican II, it happened. It is binding.
The bishops who allow extraordinary ministers to assist in distribution of Holy Communion have the authority to do so.
Having said that, Vatican II did not change the notion that priests and deacons are the ordinary ministers of Holy Communion. They still are, the Church still says they are.
In the meantime, however, we are in a time in which priests are spread very thin. It should not surprise us that the conventions are not what they were when we had more priests.
If the OP’s feelings are the driving force behind a devotion to praying for more vocations to the priesthood and for perseverance of vocations, that will be a good use for it. Holding on to a grudge against people who have only answered a request by their pastor to help in accordance with the liturgical norms of their bishop really doesn’t help at all and could create a spiritual obstacle.
What difference does that make? EMHC’s and receiving in the hand are disciplines and not doctrines. That can be changed any time.In 1961, would it have been okay to have EMHCs?
In 1961, would it have been okay to receive in the hand?
Such a simple solution. No resentment. No arguing.If you don’t like receiving from EMHCs sit where you can receive from the priest.
Yeah, like the priest announces ahead of time if he’ll be distributing on the St Mary side or the St Joseph side…Zach:![]()
Such a simple solution. No resentment. No arguing.If you don’t like receiving from EMHCs sit where you can receive from the priest.
If who is distributing were more important to me than Who I was receiving, I’d manage to take a few steps to the other line.Yeah, like the priest announces ahead of time if he’ll be distributing on the St Mary side or the St Joseph side…![]()
Hon, if you’re right and the Church is wrong, be proud! Own it!Well then everyone at my parish might suspect what a wacko rad-trad I am…![]()
True, these are disciplines, but disciplines flow from doctrines. And theology is taught by experience. While the practice can be changed there is nothing to say that the current practice is wise or good just because it is the current practice. The long standing practice certainly at least has centuries of evidence to show its merit. If one were to examine the state of the Church now given the new practices one could hardly conclude these were positive changes.EMHC’s and receiving in the hand are disciplines and not doctrines. That can be changed any time.
There is nothing to be obedient over. This isn’t a matter where the Church is right. I mean certainly the Church has the right to establish how communion is administered, but its rules aren’t divinely guaranteed to be the most ideal. One can freely think the practice of communion in the hand to be a less worthy means of reception. It is a novelty and still only allowed as an indult.The Church says EMHC’s are allowed and that receiving in the hand is allowed.
Stop complaining and be obedient to the Church. The Church is right and you are wrong.