Restoring Tradition

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You’re right – ours is a modernist parish. And the Mass is a Novus Ordo sung in Latin.
Yeah, I figured. I’m surprised they would even do that. I guess they figure if they didn’t try to add any reverence their attendance would be pretty low. If it were me I’d look for another parish, a Traditional parish that is.
 
Regarding your personal experience in San Francisco, are your sure these “priests” were genuine women or could these “women” have been youthful men trapped in the bodies of women? Given the sensibilities of the region, either is possible.
Are you familiar with the difference in meaning between the terms “priest” and “eucharistic minister”? I think you are confused about what TPW was saying.
 
That too, but I basically covered that when I said it goes against Tradition. Everything you mentioned is not Traditional.
I understand. Because of the seriousness of materialism’s inroads, it may be more definitive to say that it goes against Catholic doctrine.
 
Yeah, I figured. I’m surprised they would even do that. I guess they figure if they didn’t try to add any reverence their attendance would be pretty low. If it were me I’d look for another parish, a Traditional parish that is.
There’s plenty of reverence, along with the happy noises of children.
 
There’s plenty of reverence, along with the happy noises of children.
Latin would be the only reverent thing I could point out from what you have said about your parish. Happy noises of children isn’t reverent. You know what reverent means right?
 
Latin would be the only reverent thing I could point out from what you have said about your parish. Happy noises of children isn’t reverent. You know what reverent means right?
You’re scary – I steer clear of your type.
 
He held up his liturgical vestments and said, “You can’t wear these just yet, but we’re going to fix that!”
Who’s going to fix “that” and how?
The applause from the congregation was thunderous.
We have a few parishioners who believe women should be priests, but they’re definitely in the minority. I can’t even imagine the shocked silence such as statement in our (totally Novus Ordo) would elicit. Many would walk out, and have done so when a prayer service “reflection” was explicitly political.

I’m pretty sure our pastor reviews the homilies our associates give.
 
So, while no one is “discounting anything you say”, because you didn’t live in both Churches, I believe that it would be wise for those of you who have known only the Novus Ordo Church, to listen to those who have known both, who have researched the events within the Church during the 60’s & 70’s. You may ignor their thoughts, but only after giving them due consideration. There aren’t many of us left, you know. Approximately 70% of pre-Vatican II Catholics just quit attending Mass & silently drifted away.
BTW., Vatican II was a PASTORAL Ecumenical Council. No doctrine or dogma was promulgated.
***At the tender age of 65 and still counting; I have experienced both. One with Awe and Wonder; one with just wonder:eek:

However I’m not sure of the accuracy of the highlighted* comment. While this number reflects accurately fallen away Catholics; :eek: I have seen no evidence that they ALL or for that matter even MOST are from the Pre-Vatican II erea?

The advice to actively listen to those of us who God granted the opportunity to know both, is good advice.**

Love and payers,
Pat
 
Maybe you should look up the definition. I honestly have never heard anyone say the noise of kids is reverent.
Perhaps you live in a cult, or an assisted living facility. I work with children at our school, and our Masses are packed with kids. Merriam Webster online defines "reverence as “profound adoring awed respect.” If children praying and adoring in their own way is not reverence, I don’t know what is. Reverence is not manifested in a kindergarten class the same way it is in in an assisted living facility.
 
Are you familiar with the difference in meaning between the terms “priest” and “eucharistic minister”? I think you are confused about what TPW was saying.
I believe I know the difference. Do you?

Only ordained priests are Eucharistic Ministers in the Catholic Church.

Lay persons may serve as Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion.

Questions?
 
I believe I know the difference. Do you?/QUOTE]

Your response indicates you aren’t sure of the difference. TPW asked a thoughtful question, and you sarcastically responded:

“Regarding your personal experience in San Francisco, are your sure these “priests” were genuine women or could these “women” have been youthful men trapped in the bodies of women? Or vice versa? Given the sensibilities of the region, either is possible.”
 
Are you familiar with the difference in meaning between the terms “priest” and “eucharistic minister”? I think you are confused about what TPW was saying.
*Extraordinary *Minister of the Eucharist is the correct term, and could explain the confusion.
 
*Extraordinary *Minister of the Eucharist is the correct term, and could explain the confusion.
Actually, “Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion” is the correct term. But “Eucharistic Minister” is a very commonly used term as well, and how unbelievably tendentious it is (I’m not talking to you, Qui Est Ce!) to respond to someone using the latter term as though they were necessarily talking about priests. Ugh.
 
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StAnastasia:
Under the circumstances it was a reasonable response. If the humor fell flat, mea culpa. You’re amusing though.

Would you now care to revise and extend [ie disabuse yourself of] your remarks on the qualifications of Eucharistic Ministers in the Roman Catholic Church?
 
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