Revelation to St. Bridget says no makeup?x

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(b) In itself also it is not sinful to desire that others approve one’s appearance and dress. Thus, a wife should strive to be attractive to her husband (I Cor., vii. 34), and modest ornamentation may be used to win a suitor (I Tim., ii. 9). It is mortally sinful, however, to attire oneself with the purpose or in a manner to arouse carnal temptation or to awaken sinful desire in others—for example, if one wishes to capture the sex love of others without marriage (Prov., vii. 10); it is venially sinful to groom oneself well from mere vanity, that is, from a silly ambition to be regarded as handsome and fashionable.

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I find the “moderation” part a bit weird as well. I mean, if you can’t go outside without makeup and spend all your money on it, then you have a problem, but if you just want to wear a lot of makeup sometimes and you can afford it? I don’t think there is any sin in having a fully caked face if that is what one likes.

I don’t always wear makeup but when I do it is not usually a natural look, I use contouring and glitter eye shadows. I also wear long acrylic nails from time to time. When it comes to hair I am all-natural though, I never dye or cut it and very seldom use products other than shampoo and conditioning.
 
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tuffsmurf said:
I find the “moderation” part a bit weird as well. I mean, if you can’t go outside without makeup and spend all your money on it, then you have a problem, but if you just want to wear a lot of makeup sometimes and you can afford it? I don’t think there is any sin in having a fully caked face if that is what one likes.
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I think it stems from an assumption that a woman is somehow deceiving another of her beauty or age. I don’t get it though. It’s ones fault for assuming, I don’t see how it’s wrong if the woman didn’t actually lie.

Women are constantly told men like less, so it seems like women continue to wear it for fun or out of deep insecurity. That being said, the latter doesn’t even require a mask of makeup. One of the reasons why I feel the need to wear makeup is because my face is pretty tragic looking, and that being said, I always wear a natural look. So see, it’s not about the amount, it’s the intention behind it.

Makeup is just good fun. Nobody in their right minds would think Rebecca has naturally glittery eyelids. More and more women are beginning to enjoy the art of makeup, which is reflected in recent makeup trends and products (bright neon eye shadows, heavy glitters, weird lipstick shades which weren’t popular in consumer brands before)
 
tuffsmurf said:
I find the “moderation” part a bit weird as well. I mean, if you can’t go outside without makeup and spend all your money on it, then you have a problem
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The “moderation” part generally refers to vanity, appropriateness for the occasion, being unable to function normally without your makeup, and whether you’re devoting an inordinate amount of time and resources to your cosmetics, not “how much do you have on”.

There is such a thing as “wearing too much makeup” however, such as when you’re 14 years old and trying to look older (perhaps so you can attract older guys) and you put on so much that you look like a hooker or a raccoon. If your parents are responsible they will usually make you go wash it off.
Same could apply to the 50-year-old who has on 5 pounds of makeup trying to look 25.
 
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I don’t think young teenagers should wear any makeup.
But if we are talking about grown women, why would it be wrong for a 50-year old or anyone else to wear a ton of makeup? I might not find it aesthetically pleasing, but I don’t see a moral issue here. Obviosusly there are things that are not appropriate, like going to mass in clown attire, but I have never seen that happening so I don’t reallt think that belongs in this discussion.
 
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It’s the motivation for wearing it.
If a 50-year-old is wearing a ton of makeup because she enjoys it (maybe she’s a makeup artist) or is starring in a play, fine.
If she’s wearing it trying to look/ pretend to be younger or in hopes of seducing men, not fine.
 
So does plastic surgery also come under this umbrella, some people don’t like bags under their eyes, don’t like their double chin, the shape of their nose, breast enhancements, botox butts and lips, etc etc, vanity vanity, all is vanity,
 
I’m older now, and makeup is dicey. I have near non-existent thin eyebrows, which looks a little weird without brow powder or pencil. (You can look up celebrities without eyebrow photos, and enjoy.)

Recently, I was interested in using a new to me, line of makeup. I won’t link or mention it but it’s basically a no-makeup look. The lady who created and demonstrated it was so cheeky that I almost got queasy. She pointed out while applying her blush, that it makes you look like you are aroused. (I am blushing just describing this and I’m no prude.)

My dad came from a Protestant background, and hated ‘clown’ makeup and perfume. Pierced ears? He about fainted when I got them. So maybe I’m influenced. I also inherited his heavy upper eyelids so forget about eyeliner or shadow. When I was younger I’d doll up my lips with crazy lip colors, i.e. a bright tangerine. It was the eighties. I got a vulgar comment from a professor I admired and never wore that color again.

I agree with Lea101, a person should be able to wear as much or as little as they want. The onus, is on them, their intentions which we can not know. I wasn’t on the prowl to ruin a man with my Tangerine pout. I was trying to look ‘balanced’ with my lime green camp shirt. And, yes today, after ‘safe environment training’ that professor probably wouldn’t have said anything.

I sit in amazement with what a good makeup artist can do, including special effects artists. The late Kevin Aucoin was a true artist. Youtube opened up a whole world of people transforming their faces with contour and color. I was shocked to find out that one YouTube makeup influencer admitted to having spent $14k on makeup. Fr. Ripperger had a a talk on this, under his ‘modesty’ series, and he mentioned not recognizing an acquaintance when she wasn’t wearing any makeup one day.

We have freedom to do what we wish, with enough time and money. I hope my daughters chose wisely.

But as a as far as a 50 year old to look younger? I don’t think it fools anyone.
 
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My dad had his eyes done in his sixties. He could barely see while driving, his upper lids obscured his vision.

I have seen my own future.
 
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So does plastic surgery also come under this umbrella, some people don’t like bags under their eyes, don’t like their double chin, the shape of their nose, breast enhancements, botox butts and lips, etc etc, vanity vanity, all is vanity,
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It’s all the same thing, motivation and moderation.
It’s important to note plastic surgery also can be used for medical reasons (the guy who couldn’t see due to eye bags for example) or for removing actual disfigurement like scars.
 
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My dad had his eyes done in his sixties. He could barely see while driving, his upper lids obscured his vision.

I have seen my own future

Yes, there are medical benefits to plastic surgery, personally I don’t have a problem with people who do get plastic surgery, it’s when it becomes excessive for their own vain glory. Same with makeup, my wife doesn’t wear it very often but when she does it does enhance her looks, she looks pretty without it also, ( just thought I’d mention that as well, lol)
 
Didn’t St. Bridget have a lot of views on sexuality that were outliers, to put it mildly?
 
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Barbie Doll surgery. excessively gross, she looked better before.
 
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In what ways?
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I could be totally confusing her with someone else, but if it’s who I’m thinking of didn’t she teach that enjoying sex, even in the context of a marriage, was wrong? Like, basically sex is a dirty chore we have to tolerate for procreation and that’s it.
 
I might also be confused, many mystics have said words to this effect. But they did so out of love for God and purity. There is a saying like: once I have tasted of spirit, all the world is worthless (it is from at least the 11th century). Or something like that, which explains why they say such things. If God came to us we would probably think the colors in nature were dimmer themselves.
 
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Mythicalbio said:
But they did so out of love for God and purity.
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I’m not questioning her motives, just pointing out that her views may be more extreme than what the Church actually teaches. And again, I could be totally misrepresenting her writings.
 
egretps said:
Recently, I was interested in using a new to me, line of makeup. I won’t link or mention it but it’s basically a no-makeup look. The lady who created and demonstrated it was so cheeky that I almost got queasy. She pointed out while applying her blush, that it makes you look like you are aroused. (I am blushing just describing this and I’m no prude.)
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Does the brand start with N? They have dirty names for some of their products but I hate to admit it…their blushes are good.
egretps said:
The late Kevin Aucoin was a true artist
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I recommend Lisa Eldridge for more muted/minimal makeup, if you’re interested. She’s one of the ‘originals’ in the sense that she doesn’t overdo it at all, like Kevin.
egretps said:
I was shocked to find out that one YouTube makeup influencer admitted to having spent $14k on makeup
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To be fair, their YouTube channels are businesses at this point, and as they’re reviewing makeup to earn a living, it’s not too much imo. I remember hearing that they can actually write off the cost as business expenses.
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Fr. Ripperger had a a talk on this, under his ‘modesty’ series, and he mentioned not recognizing an acquaintance when she wasn’t wearing any makeup one day
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Hey hey hey, if im not spending 38 dollars on a product just to look the same!

But yea, I think there’s something internal to be addressed with, if someone is slathering on makeup to the point of looking unrecognisable (assuming that it’s not for the sake of expression or art).
 
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