Revised English version of the Roman Missal for Canada

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This is the first I’ve heard of the revised Roman Missal in Canada.
Revised English version of the Roman Missal for Canada

I only found this out because I stumbled across Catholicanuck.

I’ve been reading threads and posts within threads about the implementation of the new translation in the USA, but I was getting worried that it may be put off a year or two in Canada.

It looks like it’s official. (???)
This Advent we’ll all have to be ready for the changes. I wonder how long before my rural parish hears of this…
 
Thanks be to God! I was beginning to fear that we wouldn’t get this until mid-2012.
 
WOW! I had missed that announcement completely and I’ve been watching for it. Thank you. It must have been late on Friday because I was on the site Friday during the day.

So we have to wait until September to start preparing the parishioners. Hmm, they sure aren’t rushing things, are they? I noticed that the new books are advertised on the site but are not yet available for sale. We’ve known about the new supplement to the CBWIII since last summer, and one of the women involved with its preparation was in our parish to teach the choir last September.
 
Hi. Well, I’m a priest from Canada and was surprised that someone from the U.S. would be “surprised” that we were going to get the new missal at the same time as everyone else. As a matter of fact, we have been discussing the new Missal at our Priest’s Seminars over the past two years with the top experts in the field who were working closely with the new translation, delivering talks and leading discussions on the New Missal. It is set for this fall as I understand its implementation will be in other places as well.

Again, not sure why someone would think we would be a couple of years down the road before this happened, and that goes for rural, inner city and every kind of parish that exists.

Thanks, Fr. Charles
 
charleschaplin said:
Hi. Well, I’m a priest from Canada and was surprised that someone from the U.S. would be “surprised” that we were going to get the new missal at the same time as everyone else. As a matter of fact, we have been discussing the new Missal at our Priest’s Seminars over the past two years with the top experts in the field who were working closely with the new translation, delivering talks and leading discussions on the New Missal. It is set for this fall as I understand its implementation will be in other places as well.

Again, not sure why someone would think we would be a couple of years down the road before this happened, and that goes for rural, inner city and every kind of parish that exists.

Thanks, Fr. Charles
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Well, speed isn’t the CCCB’s strong suit. Consider how long we had to wait for the new Lectionary that the Vatican had given them 5 years to change.

With the Missal I think it’s because the CCCB has been so close-mouthed on the topic. The US Catholics have been kept up to date on everything that’s been happening for the last 5 years. In Canada, nada.

Our bishop had told our priests that the GIRM would likely be implemented for Lent. Not a word about that yet. And over the last 9 years we kept getting different reasons why the GIRM wasn’t being implemented at the same time as it was in the US. It was getting very frustrating to always have to seek out the GIRM on the USCCB’s website in order to figure out the references in the ORDO.

I hope they do implement the Missal in November but we could end up not implementing until Lent if the same thing happens as happened with the Lectionary.
 
Hello fellow Canadians. I have a question regarding postures, quelle surprise! 🙂

I have heard we will be required to kneel through the consecration (I believe from the Holy Holy thru to the Great Amen) However, I also heard recently that the exception to this posture will be in the Archdiocese of St. Boniface, where the posture will be to remain standing. I want to confirm if this is true or not, and if true, the reason for a different posture in that archdiocese from the rest of Canada.

Thank you!
 
Our priests came back from a diocesan gathering back in 2002 with information that said we would be kneeling for the entire Eucharistic Prayer but since we’ve yet to see the Canadian version there is really no way to know. It’s possible that the generic rule will be kneeling with the Bishops having permission to decide otherwise for their own diocese. That would account for the Archdiocese of St. Boniface being different – is it part of the Francophone dioceses of Canada? They always seem to do things differently. Remember that kneeling for the entire EP would be an adaptation since the Latin GIRM only says to kneel for the Consecration.

The April 1st announcement (not decree, so nothing official yet) by the CCCB that the translation had been approved and agreement had been reached to implement on the First Sunday in Advent also contained a paragraph that said
Starting the first week of April, the National Liturgy Office will begin posting texts and power-point slides to be used for workshops at the local level – including workshops dealing with the theology of Eucharist, the process of translation and revision, and the history of the Eucharist. These will be available on the website of the National Liturgy Office, nlo.cccb.ca/.
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It’s been a month and there’s nothing I can find on the translation. The documents that are there are PDFs of documents that have been available online for several years.
 
pigpen said:
Hello fellow Canadians. I have a question regarding postures, quelle surprise! 🙂

I have heard we will be required to kneel through the consecration (I believe from the Holy Holy thru to the Great Amen)
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Phemie said:
Our priests came back from a diocesan gathering back in 2002 with information that said we would be kneeling for the entire Eucharistic Prayer
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Eh?
Doesn’t everyone kneel for the entire Eucharistic Prayer?
Our parish always has – we kneel right after the Sanctus until after the ‘great amen’.
I did experience one exception though. There’s a parish in Ottawa that stands up for the Doxology. I found that odd as I’ve never experienced anything but kneeling.🤷
 
The_Reginator said:
Eh?
Doesn’t everyone kneel for the entire Eucharistic Prayer?
Our parish always has – we kneel right after the Sanctus until after the ‘great amen’.
I did experience one exception though. There’s a parish in Ottawa that stands up for the Doxology. I found that odd as I’ve never experienced anything but kneeling.🤷
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It varies from one parish to another even in the same diocese, even in the same city.

We’re still working with the 1975 GIRM which calls for kneeling only at the Consecration (kneel after the Sanctus and stand at the Memorial Acclamation). In practice, we see everything from no kneeling whatsoever (my parish), to doing exactly what the GIRM calls for to kneeling until the Amen.

The 2002 Latin GIRM still calls for kneeling only at Consecration but I know that liturgists through the years have been saying that since the EP is ONE prayer there should only be ONE posture throughout. Some would prefer that posture to be ‘standing’ but I think the symbolism of the one posture is more important to them than the standing is so they’ve agreed that it will be kneeling. That said, my information is almost 10 years old and I’m sure the National Liturgy Office is comprised of different members today than it was back in 2002, so a different decision may have been made.
 
I think Phemie may be on the right track with the suggestion the archdiocese of St. Boniface may be considered Francophone. As far as I know, French Canada will implement changes later than English Canada. I wish I knew how to find out, without calling someone in the St. Boniface archdiocese and flat out asking them. I find people have such strong opinions about postures!! I just want to be obedient to whatever the Church decides.
 
pigpen said:
I think Phemie may be on the right track with the suggestion the archdiocese of St. Boniface may be considered Francophone. As far as I know, French Canada will implement changes later than English Canada. I wish I knew how to find out, without calling someone in the St. Boniface archdiocese and flat out asking them. I find people have such strong opinions about postures!! I just want to be obedient to whatever the Church decides.
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I know that French dioceses stopped General Absolution long after the English ones did. Apparently they refused to accept the instructions on Confession and had to “request clarification”. It was strange to be in my home town several years ago and discover that the English parish no longer had Reconciliation Celebrations with General Absolution but the French parish a mile away did. Both belonged to the same diocese but different practices based on whether the bishop was acting on behalf of the French part or the English part.
 
We finally heard it from our priest!

During the ‘Prayers of the Faithful’ tonight Father prayed about the implementation, for guidance and that people’s hearts would be open to the changes that Mother Church has instituted.

Until now I’ve only heard a few comments from parishioners, no mention from above.

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Phemie:
We kneel throughout the entire EP across the board in the archdiocese of Vancouver…
Mind you, while not free of problems, our archdiocese also has several solid parishes were the faithful are encouraged to receive kneeling at the altar rail (including at the cathedral), altar boys are exclusively used, extraordinary ministers used only when truly necessary, and chant/Latin actually not unknown… though other parishes are less ‘traditional’. I always appreciate the fact that at the catheral the other priests will come in at the appropriate moment to help distribute holy communion to keep EMHCs at a minimum - which means a real personal sacrifice on their part as we have four daily masses Monday to Saturday and 7 on Sunday.
 
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