Revised lords prayer

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Will non-denominational Christians recite the new wording of the Lord’s Prayer, or will they declare it “non-biblical”?
 
Why would non-denominational Christians (i.e. Protestants) care about what the Pope has to say regarding the Italian translation of the Our Father?
 
Is that true? I he doesn’t like how it is translated in Italian, the English version says the same thing…“do not
lead us into temptation”.

I thought the Pope wants us to say…
“do not let us fall into temptation”.

And The Gloria to say…“people beloved by God” instead of “people of good will”.
 
I have wondered the same thing about what the Protestants will think or do.
 
The translation is only for Italian liturgy at this time. What happens later - who can say?
 
I Don’t think he will change the wording just for the Italians.
 
And yet he did 😁
The news reports from the Vatican were quite clear about it; this is the Italian Missal only.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I Don’t think he will change the wording just for the Italians
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Pope Francis approved the translation requested by the Italian bishops. He did not impose it on them nor did he draft it himself. The new translation is the result of 16 years of work begun under St. John Paul II and continued under Pope Benedict.

I do not know if the USCCB has requested translations into English be updated, nor do I know is the other English speaking countries have requested it either.
 
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I think the German bishops want it to remain as it is. The Bishops in the U.S. might be having a meeting in
November about it.
 
Considering that in my Baptist days, we always went right from “deliver us from evil for thine is the Kingdom, and the Power and the Glory, forever, Amen,” I don’t think they will care what the Pope or Catholics do.
 
some argue that God would never lead us into temptation, but of course he may. He led Jesus into temptation.
 
It was Satan who led Jesus into temptation (with gods permission?).
 
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Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.

Matthew 4 USCCB bible
 
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Is there an uproar in Italy?

Sometimes, it is best for the rest of the world to mind its own business.
 
From the Catena Aurea:
“Greg., Hom. in Ev., 16, 1: Some doubt what Spirit it was that led Jesus into the desert, for that it is said after, “The Devil took him into the holy city.” But true and without question agreeable to the context is the received opinion, that it was the Holy Spirit; that His own Spirit should lead Him thither where the evil spirit should find Him and try Him.”
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Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.
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The Greek word there can mean either “tempt” or “test”. In a negative sense, “tempt” makes sense; in a positive sense, “test” does.

So… was Jesus really “tempted”? Or did the devil just test Him to see if He’d fall for his tricks?
 
There are already various different translations of the Our Father in English, depending on what Bible you look at it. For example, the NAB-RE–the US Bishops official translation–says “and do not subject us to the final test” instead of “lead us not into temptation.” Different translations translate different words differently in other places as well–the Protestant NIV says “deliver us from the evil one” for example, rather than “deliver us from evil.” Some say trespasses, others debts, and still others sins. Some say “daily bread” and others say “supersubstantial bread.”

Even the old DR has a footnote that explains the intended meaning of the idiomatic expression at issue:

[13] “Lead us not into temptation”: That is, suffer us not to be overcome by temptation.

If Protestants object to other translations, they would ironically be objecting on the basis of tradition and the Latin Vulgate.
 
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Will non-denominational Christians recite the new wording of the Lord’s Prayer, or will they declare it “non-biblical”?
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Non-denominational Christians will completely ignore it, seeing as they don’t recognize the authority of the Pope.

Am I missing something here? Protestants haven’t said the Lord’s Prayer the same as Catholics for years, except for a few weirdos like me.
 
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