Revived GOP health care talks could hurt those with pre-existing conditions

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Monte_RCMS said:
Why do leftists hate America?

americanthinker.com/articles/2017/04/why_do_leftists_hate_america.html

The Catholic Church has always provided medical care, but often nowadays is being hounded out of providing these services.

So here are two excerpts from the article I posted:

In my opinion, this becomes the core of the discussion:

The simple answer is that leftists hate America and her biblical values.

As a Christian, I cannot help but notice that leftists hate America’s Christian roots. They have a huge problem with the God of Christianity and with Jesus. Think about it. Islam justifies beating and killing a disobedient wife and beheading homosexuals. And yet leftists, who claim to be superior advocates for women and homosexuals, defend Islam. Meanwhile, they vilify Christians, calling them intolerant haters for simply honoring biblical principles. At least 90% of leftist sacred cow issues are anti-Bible. Why?

This continues to have me scratching my head. Celebs like Rosie O’Donnell, Kim Kardashian, and Madonna support Islam and trash Christianity. And yet if Islamic sharia law became the law of the land, none of them would be allowed to be who they are.

Clearly, their issue with Christianity is spiritual. As a Christian, I believe that it is the spirit of anti-Christ. How dare Jesus be so arrogant to proclaim himself the only way to heaven, saying, “I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the father, but by me.”

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Complete and utter nonsense.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
I didn’t say all health care utilization is inelastic. I said some of it is very inelastic.

As for the overutilization of ER facilities, that is not so much overutilization as improper utilization caused by policy. Government regulations require that the ER not turn away anyone. So when a need arises, and the ER route is the only one available, people will take it, even if it is not the most appropriate use of those facilities. So either we need to clamp down on mandatory ER admissions (and risk the resulting Dickensian imagery) or provide a more appropriate (i.e. less costly) channel for the kind of care.
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Imaginably of interest, my state has a pilot program whereby providers of psych care can employ NPs and case workers to deal with health needs of people on Medicaid. Clients must first contact the case worker before going to the ER or a private physician as a condition of their psych treatment. The NP evaluates before referring the client to any other provider, but provides treatment under a state grant if it’s a matter the NP can deal with. There is an interaction between psych and a lot of physical conditions, and the program seems to be working fairly well. Sometimes the real cause is physical, reflected in psych symptoms. Sometimes the psych condition causes the client to think he/she has some terrible physical problem but only needs adjustment in psych meds. The purpose is to cut down on Medicaid costs, particularly ER care, and apparently it does.

But that’s a pretty limited population, and one over which the provider has a reasonable amount of control.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Why do leftists hate America?

americanthinker.com/articles/2017/04/why_do_leftists_hate_america.html

The Catholic Church has always provided medical care, but often nowadays is being hounded out of providing these services.

So here are two excerpts from the article I posted:

In my opinion, this becomes the core of the discussion:

The simple answer is that leftists hate America and her biblical values.

As a Christian, I cannot help but notice that leftists hate America’s Christian roots. They have a huge problem with the God of Christianity and with Jesus. Think about it. Islam justifies beating and killing a disobedient wife and beheading homosexuals. And yet leftists, who claim to be superior advocates for women and homosexuals, defend Islam. Meanwhile, they vilify Christians, calling them intolerant haters for simply honoring biblical principles. At least 90% of leftist sacred cow issues are anti-Bible. Why?

This continues to have me scratching my head. Celebs like Rosie O’Donnell, Kim Kardashian, and Madonna support Islam and trash Christianity. And yet if Islamic sharia law became the law of the land, none of them would be allowed to be who they are.

Clearly, their issue with Christianity is spiritual. As a Christian, I believe that it is the spirit of anti-Christ. How dare Jesus be so arrogant to proclaim himself the only way to heaven, saying, “I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the father, but by me.”

Read more: americanthinker.com/articles/2017/04/why_do_leftists_hate_america.html#ixzz4dr5SFpYc
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AClaire11 said:
Complete and utter nonsense.
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Agreed. Pure hogwash. Totally mindless.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Why do leftists hate America?

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The simple answer is that leftists hate America and her biblical values.

As a Christian, I cannot help but notice that leftists hate America’s Christian roots.
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That’s just ridiculous. A statement like that cannot come out of a mind that is capable of looking around and comprehending the world around it. It just can’t.

I’m sure it’s very satisfying to imagine yourself bravely speaking out against the hordes of “leftists” who are actively trying to destroy your country, but it’s a fantasy. Nothing more.

What about us Christian, and even Catholic, “leftists”? Do we hate America? Do we hate Christianity?

I’m as American as you are. And you’d call me a “leftist,” or a “progressive,” and probably worse. Do you think I hate America? Do you think I hate Christianity?

I’d really like an answer from you. Please.
 
AClaire11 said:
Are you serious? Why give anyone medical care then? Why have emergency rooms?
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Hi AClaire. I probably worded my post clumsily, leading to misinterpretation. I meant to point to the inevitability of death. I posted after reading all of the posts up to mine. There seemed to be a great deal of discussion about how to divide up a finite amount of health care.
Given that, as Christians, our ultimate goal is heaven, the focus upon earthly spoils led me to wonder if we might not be distracting ourselves just a bit from this goal.
I have provided care for a friend approaching death and have two immediate family members with pre-existing conditions: one with insurance, one without. . It is quite likely that the other will have a shorter life span-they share the same condition.
My goal is to help both get to heaven.
May God bless you and all who visit our thread.
jt
 
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