Revolvers for Everyone!

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But what about simple assaults? I could easily see an argument at a bar turning into a gunfight, wild-west style. If both men displayed weapons then both men would feel on an equal footing. The little dog could confidently challenge the big dog. Instead of a black-eye, though, he might end up with a sucking chest wound. Even simple disputes over property could lead to a deadly outcome, for the same reason. Then what would be the defense of the one who drew first, “Honest, officer, he went for his gun.” This is no way to live. I can imagine our prisons losing populations of actual criminals deterred from commiting their usual crimes only to be repopulated with otherwise law-abiding citizens found guilty of manslaughter.
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If someone is carrying a gun or opperating a car they should not be intoxicated. However bar fights do tend to be close quarter activities where knives and broken bottles come into play. If you are close enough to throw a punch you will have a hard time getting off a clean shot. Besides br room fighting or other assaults are an issue that need to be dealt with by incarcerating all individuals involved regardless of whether they have fire arms.
 
Our founding fathers provided for private ownership of arms strictly as a form of tyranny insurance. As such, ownership or possession should be viewed in this light.
 
But now the intruder can sue you if your method of protecting yourself is unequal to what he was attempting to use to murder you. I give up!
With proper “gun control” they won’t be in a position to sue you.
 
When you think of it, death rates would skyrocket (both of people who are innocent and those who are the perpetrator). Since I don’t own any sidearms, nor do I plan on purchasing any, I could care less if they ban them their entirety.
I am sure the criminals will line up to turn theirs in.
 
This work - as long as the government disarmed as well. Unarmed societies are not free.
I didn’t mean total disarmament; rather the elimination of all handguns. You’d be able to keep your shotguns, rifles, muskets, etc.

Think about it; how’d a criminal like to stare down the barrel of a 12 gauge double barreled shotgun?
 
I didn’t mean total disarmament; rather the elimination of all handguns. You’d be able to keep your shotguns, rifles, muskets, etc.

Think about it; how’d a criminal like to stare down the barrel of a 12 gauge double barreled shotgun?
Not very practical to have a rifle slung over your shoulder when you are running errands around town. Besides the rifle and shotgun bayonets tend to snag the car upholstery. 😃
 
I didn’t mean total disarmament; rather the elimination of all handguns. You’d be able to keep your shotguns, rifles, muskets, etc.

Think about it; how’d a criminal like to stare down the barrel of a 12 gauge double barreled shotgun?
A handgun is only as dangerous as the heart that wields it. The problem is that one cannot carry a long gun in public. I have a question: Why is it so easy for a gun to find a criminal?
 
It’s always interesting to see the three sides to the issue of gun ownership; those who oppose it fervently, those who support it fervently, and the rest of us. 😃

Guns in the hands of responsible owners are not problematic. However, as has been posted, how is “responsible” defined?

The Government can’t “common sense” its way out of a paper bag; how on earth could it decide who is and who isn’t “responsible” in mandating that everyone carry?
 
It’s always interesting to see the three sides to the issue of gun ownership; those who oppose it fervently, those who support it fervently, and the rest of us. 😃

Guns in the hands of responsible owners are not problematic. However, as has been posted, how is “responsible” defined?

The Government can’t “common sense” its way out of a paper bag; how on earth could it decide who is and who isn’t “responsible” in mandating that everyone carry?
There are very few people actually advocating universal gun ownership and even fewer advocating forcing people to carry. The examples are typically given to demonstrate that even in the most extreme case where everyone was armed, we would not see the conditions the hoplophobics fear.

I would not support a forced ownership but would support government encouragement of fire arm ownership and marksmanship training. Such as making certain rifles like the M1 Carbine or Ruger .223 and the ammunition available at prices based on a bulk government buy. I’d also like to see more government ranges so people could learn to shoot in a safe and organized envirronment. If we were ever invaded I’d like to have all of my fellow citizens educated in basic skills such as first aid, marksmenship, etc.
 
When you think of it, death rates would skyrocket (both of people who are innocent and those who are the perpetrator). Since I don’t own any sidearms, nor do I plan on purchasing any, I could care less if they ban them their entirety.
I tell you what: since you feel so strongly about not caring if someone elses freedom is taken away, I think you should post a sign on the front of your house stating you dislike guns and have none in the house.
 
It says “My next door neighbor wants to ban all guns!
Their house is NOT ARMED!
Out of RESPECT for their opinions I promise NOT to us MY GUNS to PROTECT THEM”
 
Disclaimer: I haven’t read everything here, so I’m just going to blindly flail about. 🙂

I don’t particularly like guns, but I’m strongly against outlawing guns for several reasons:
  1. Guns aren’t only used for illegal killing. They’re just a tool. Outlawing guns would be like outlawing knives or fishhooks.
  2. You can’t regulate what you’ve outlawed. If guns are legal, the government can outlaw only those that would have no purpose other than murder, and we can strict regulation (such as permits). If guns are illegal, there would be no permits, and it would be just as hard (or easy, depending on the situation) for me to get a hunting rifle as it would be for me to get a heavy assault rifle.
  3. Outlaws are outlaws. If someone is going to commit murder or armed robbery, chances are they aren’t going to care all that much about getting a gun. Only law-abiding people would be limited.
Actually, the only reason I can think of FOR gun control is discouraging revolt…

EDIT: ah, I just saw the safety argument. Well then, only issue a permit to people who have gotten training! Simple! There will be accidents, but, ah, stupid people will be stupid. 😉 Besides which, if you know how to use a stick (Jojutsu, for example), you could seriously harm someone else. Do you want to ban sticks?
 
Disclaimer: I haven’t read everything here, so I’m just going to blindly flail about. 🙂

I don’t particularly like guns, but I’m strongly against outlawing guns for several reasons:
  1. Guns aren’t only used for illegal killing. They’re just a tool. Outlawing guns would be like outlawing knives or fishhooks.
  2. You can’t regulate what you’ve outlawed. If guns are legal, the government can outlaw only those that would have no purpose other than murder, and we can strict regulation (such as permits). If guns are illegal, there would be no permits, and it would be just as hard (or easy, depending on the situation) for me to get a hunting rifle as it would be for me to get a heavy assault rifle.
  3. Outlaws are outlaws. If someone is going to commit murder or armed robbery, chances are they aren’t going to care all that much about getting a gun. Only law-abiding people would be limited.
Actually, the only reason I can think of FOR gun control is discouraging revolt…

EDIT: ah, I just saw the safety argument. Well then, only issue a permit to people who have gotten training! Simple! There will be accidents, but, ah, stupid people will be stupid. 😉 Besides which, if you know how to use a stick (Jojutsu, for example), you could seriously harm someone else. Do you want to ban sticks?
What is it about a “Heavy Assault Rifle” as compared to a “Hunting Rifle” that would make you see any value in varing degrees of difficulty of gettign a permit?
 
Disclaimer: I haven’t read everything here, so I’m just going to blindly flail about. 🙂

I don’t particularly like guns, but I’m strongly against outlawing guns for several reasons:
  1. Guns aren’t only used for illegal killing. They’re just a tool. Outlawing guns would be like outlawing knives or fishhooks.
  2. You can’t regulate what you’ve outlawed. If guns are legal, the government can outlaw only those that would have no purpose other than murder, and we can strict regulation (such as permits). If guns are illegal, there would be no permits, and it would be just as hard (or easy, depending on the situation) for me to get a hunting rifle as it would be for me to get a heavy assault rifle.
  3. Outlaws are outlaws. If someone is going to commit murder or armed robbery, chances are they aren’t going to care all that much about getting a gun. Only law-abiding people would be limited.
Actually, the only reason I can think of FOR gun control is discouraging revolt…

EDIT: ah, I just saw the safety argument. Well then, only issue a permit to people who have gotten training! Simple! There will be accidents, but, ah, stupid people will be stupid. 😉 Besides which, if you know how to use a stick (Jojutsu, for example), you could seriously harm someone else. Do you want to ban sticks?
Amen! Common sense lives. What was it now that Cain used to slay Abel…?

As radio talk show host Michael Medved says: “Liberals always search for a physical solution to a spiritual problem” Condoms. Gun control. Airport searches of grandma.

Google the history of the Bowie knife - the scourge of America in the 1830s. They were banned in several localities.
 
EDIT: ah, I just saw the safety argument. Well then, only issue a permit to people who have gotten training! Simple! There will be accidents, but, ah, stupid people will be stupid. 😉 Besides which, if you know how to use a stick (Jojutsu, for example), you could seriously harm someone else. Do you want to ban sticks?
Funny but in some cases they do. I tried carrying a long bow onto a plane once and couldn’t It ws a long stick with out a string and I dind’t have any arrows, so it was just a long stick and they considered it a weapon. I only wanted to take it as a carryon because it was more ornamental than practical and I was afraid it would get dammaged in cargo. (this was long before 9-11)
 
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