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Ive been on my slow jouney toward the Catholic Church for some time now. Ive read so many books & articles about both sides…Both claiming to have it right…My head is spinning

Ive been reading some stuff by former preist Richard Bennett. Anyone familiar with him?

I feel very educated about all debates & arguments, Im just trying to decide which way is best for me?

Rome claims to have all the “right answers” but how can I be sure?
 
kate(name removed by moderator):
Ive been on my slow jouney toward the Catholic Church for some time now. Ive read so many books & articles about both sides…Both claiming to have it right…My head is spinning

Ive been reading some stuff by former preist Richard Bennett. Anyone familiar with him?

I feel very educated about all debates & arguments, Im just trying to decide which way is best for me?

Rome claims to have all the “right answers” but how can I be sure?
Ask God. He will answer.

One thing that helped me is history. If you want to believe that the Catholic Church is not the true Church, then you have to believe that it Christianity had become unrecognizably corrupt by 200 AD, because the various epistles and writings from before then are just plain Catholic.

What’s more, something that I find interesting is this: In all my time listening to debates, reading websites, and listening to apologists from both sides of the fence, I’ve noticed something. I’ve never heard or read a Catholic apologist take something out of context. I’ve never heard or read one cut off a quotation just a sentence too early. I’ve never heard or read one appeal to very outlandish arguements. At the same time, I hear anti-Catholic apologists do it alll the time.

Often the “mistake” they make is just so far out there that I can’t imagine these folks could really not know the error they were making, or the context they were skipping, or the end of the quote they were ommitting. I’m not talking about folks around here. I’m talking about professional, very educated men. It just seems to me that if I know there’s more to that quote, James White sure as heck should!

So I get the impression that a lot of the anti-Catholic apologists go on this notion that they just know Catholicism is wrong, so they are somehow justified using these illegitimate arguements, because any means justifies the end of “saving” people from Catholicism. It comes across to me as a stubborness of sorts, as if these apologists just know for a fact Catholicism is wrong and they won’t change their minds, because any evidence that supports it still doesn’t make it true, as if Jesus showed up to them and said, ‘hey listen Catholicism is wrong no matter what the evidence says,’ so they just know its wrong and don’t even pay attention to the facts.

So it just seems to me that is Catholicism really were false, they wouldn’t have to rely on half-quotations and out of context Bible passages and whatever other half-truth arguements they make. If their positions were right, they could just come out and give the straightforward truth, without having to dance or to cut quotes off halfway through or anything… just like the Catholics do.
 
Thank you for your replies.

Lazerlike42 you wrote ----***“I’ve never heard or read a Catholic apologist take something out of context.” – ***Now that you mention it - neither have I. – Good point!

Even though all this reading & debating makes my head spin, it is interesting to look at both sides, it just educates me more & prepares me for RCIA.

Mickey - thanks for the link!
 
kate(name removed by moderator):
Thank you for your replies.

Lazerlike42 you wrote ----***“I’ve never heard or read a Catholic apologist take something out of context.” – ***Now that you mention it - neither have I. – Good point!

Even though all this reading & debating makes my head spin, it is interesting to look at both sides, it just educates me more & prepares me for RCIA.

Mickey - thanks for the link!
God bless you on your journey!
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I bet if you searched deep enough, any priest who quits and become anti-catholic had some other motive that they’re not talking about. Maybe they didn’t like their vocation, maybe they wanted to marry, or maybe they just wanted to do things their own way.
 
I bet if you searched deep enough, any priest who quits and become anti-catholic had some other motive that they’re not talking about. Maybe they didn’t like their vocation, maybe they wanted to marry, or maybe they just wanted to do things their own way.
Or maybe they came to a different conclusion about their faith. Interesting, whenever a Protestant converts to the Catholic faith Catholics don’t seem to question his motives but, instead, welcome him home and see the conversion as yet another “proof” of the truth of the Catholic Church. But talk about a Catholic who converts to Protestantism and immediately the man is either evil, uneducated or “has issues”. :rolleyes:
 
Or maybe they came to a different conclusion about their faith. Interesting, whenever a Protestant converts to the Catholic faith Catholics don’t seem to question his motives but, instead, welcome him home and see the conversion as yet another “proof” of the truth of the Catholic Church. But talk about a Catholic who converts to Protestantism and immediately the man is either evil, uneducated or “has issues”. :rolleyes:
Yeah you get that a lot. Sadly it’s true. I know a ton of ex-catholics and they are a bitter bunch. Most of the ones I have met have no idea of what Catholicism even is. I would be interested in one non angry former Catholic theologian. I hope that there is at least one out there. Otherwise rr1213 would always get to play this card forever!
 
yeah but in all fairness, I think it is harder to be a Catholic than it is to be a Protestant…?
 
Yeah you get that a lot. Sadly it’s true. I know a ton of ex-catholics and they are a bitter bunch. Most of the ones I have met have no idea of what Catholicism even is. I would be interested in one non angry former Catholic theologian. I hope that there is at least one out there. Otherwise rr1213 would always get to play this card forever!
Are you sure they don’t just seem bitter to you since they’re playing on another team now? Just because they argue against things they once supported doesn’t mean they hold anger or malice in their hearts against the Church. I’m a former Catholic (although an amateur theologian at best), and while I disagree – sometimes quite vehemently – with the Church and (more often) with individual Catholics, I do not hate it or them.

And I have seen at least one Protestant on this board speak of Scott Hahn as ‘bitter’. Perspective is important.
 
Are you sure they don’t just seem bitter to you since they’re playing on another team now? Just because they argue against things they once supported doesn’t mean they hold anger or malice in their hearts against the Church. I’m a former Catholic (although an amateur theologian at best), and while I disagree – sometimes quite vehemently – with the Church and (more often) with individual Catholics, I do not hate it or them.

And I have seen at least one Protestant on this board speak of Scott Hahn as ‘bitter’. Perspective is important.
I’m a craddle Catholic so I never switched teams. Perspective is important so I agree with you there. The sad thing is I’m not trying to be a brat here. I haven’t found a former Catholic now Protestant theologian who wasn’t bitter about his Catholic past. I am honest when I say that I hope there are some out there. 🤷
 
Ive been on my slow jouney toward the Catholic Church for some time now. Ive read so many books & articles about both sides…Both claiming to have it right…My head is spinning

Ive been reading some stuff by former preist Richard Bennett. Anyone familiar with him?

I feel very educated about all debates & arguments, Im just trying to decide which way is best for me?

Rome claims to have all the “right answers” but how can I be sure?
Richard Bennett is an ex-Catholic priest who could no longer defend what he used to believe and could no longer excuse what he was practicing.

With great courage, he left, and now shows others why that was necessary.
I’ve never heard or read a Catholic apologist take something out of context. I’ve never heard or read one cut off a quotation just a sentence too early. I’ve never heard or read one appeal to very outlandish arguements.
Wow.

What is funny is that my experience is just the opposite, and “outlandish arguments” would be putting it mildly.

It is interesting how our worldviews predetermine what we will allow ourselves to hear and see.

 
I have read some on Richard Bennett recently and am awaiting a book in the mail written by him. I myself attended a protestant church as a child and into adult years. When i was in my mid thirties, I came to know Jesus as my Lord and Saviour. I received a peace that i never knew possible. Then i fell into some difficult times a few years later. I was in deep despair and I began to learn about the Catholic Church and took RCIA classes and joined. But over the past 13 years, my peace has really depleated. I have no peace at all when i think of going to confession. I have read a lot lately that i did not know that the Catholic Church believes and honestly I am not sure that I can or want to remain in the Catholic Church any longer.
 
I have read some on Richard Bennett recently and am awaiting a book in the mail written by him. I myself attended a protestant church as a child and into adult years. When i was in my mid thirties, I came to know Jesus as my Lord and Saviour. I received a peace that i never knew possible. Then i fell into some difficult times a few years later. I was in deep despair and I began to learn about the Catholic Church and took RCIA classes and joined. But over the past 13 years, my peace has really depleated. I have no peace at all when i think of going to confession. I have read a lot lately that i did not know that the Catholic Church believes and honestly I am not sure that I can or want to remain in the Catholic Church any longer.
Richard Bennett is a Ex-Catholic priest who credentials are in deep question. As for your own doubts about Catholicism and leaving it, I have several questions to ask?
  1. By leaving the Catholic Church, you would indirectly DENY thatJesus Christ gave his Church any authority to Peter and the Apostles, and the continuous succession of bishops.
You claimed to know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, but doesn’t the Catholic Church teaches that also? If you didn’t know that, you are probably poorly instructed in the RCIA Classes and didn’t LEARN anything from it. You didn’t bare any fruits of the faith because you of your LACK of FAITH. If you so desire to leave the Catholic Church, you would deny everything that Jesus said and DONE.
  1. As a Catholic, you would know that our belief in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ when we received Holy Communion? Other than us Catholics, the Eastern Orthodox Church would also believed this based on Scripture and Tradition. In your post, you said you attended a Protestant Church. Protestant Church do not have any Real Presence of the Eucharist and their beliefs on the Eucharist is Symbolic which is a complete departure from authentic Christianity. If they claim any real presence, you don’t have it because they do not have a VALID Holy Orders nor do they have the lineage dating back to the Apostles? Why do the hell do you want to join the Protestant whose history only go as far as 1500s?
If you do depart, you would be leaving Jesus Christ HIMSELF and YOU will NO LONGER RECEIVED HIM at Mass. Protestant claimed that they have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is false because they do not consumed the Body and Blood of the Lord. I would describe the Protestants the way the one of the Early Church Father says to those HERETICS who deny the Real Presence.

"They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again." Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to Smyrnaeans, 7,1 (c. A.D. 110).

So do you want to be a heretic, linalout49? Because that what Protestants are. All their doctrines are falses and they are not consider Real Christian Churches… but pseudo Christian Churches. They are also false prophets and deceivers. Since the Reformation, they brought nothing but DIVISION, and violence like the Muslims.
 
Ive been on my slow jouney toward the Catholic Church for some time now. Ive read so many books & articles about both sides…Both claiming to have it right…My head is spinning

Ive been reading some stuff by former preist Richard Bennett. Anyone familiar with him?

I feel very educated about all debates & arguments, Im just trying to decide which way is best for me?

Rome claims to have all the “right answers” but how can I be sure?
I suggest you read up Catholic Apologetic Material instead of Richard Bennett because most of what he says have been refuted by Catholic Apologists.
 
Or maybe they came to a different conclusion about their faith. Interesting, whenever a Protestant converts to the Catholic faith Catholics don’t seem to question his motives but, instead, welcome him home and see the conversion as yet another “proof” of the truth of the Catholic Church. But talk about a Catholic who converts to Protestantism and immediately the man is either evil, uneducated or “has issues”. :rolleyes:
Very well said.
 
Ive been on my slow jouney toward the Catholic Church for some time now. Ive read so many books & articles about both sides…Both claiming to have it right…My head is spinning

Ive been reading some stuff by former preist Richard Bennett. Anyone familiar with him?

I feel very educated about all debates & arguments, Im just trying to decide which way is best for me?

Rome claims to have all the “right answers” but how can I be sure?
Seek after God with all your heart and He will lead you to Himself.
Do not do as many here and seek after a church. Seek God and Him alone and follow Him.
 
Seek after God with all your heart and He will lead you to Himself.
Do not do as many here and seek after a church. Seek God and Him alone and follow Him.
What better way to do that, than in the Church he himself founded?

Especially since he is with us in the Eucharist.
 
Ive been on my slow jouney toward the Catholic Church for some time now. Ive read so many books & articles about both sides…Both claiming to have it right…My head is spinning

Ive been reading some stuff by former preist Richard Bennett. Anyone familiar with him?

I feel very educated about all debates & arguments, Im just trying to decide which way is best for me?

Rome claims to have all the “right answers” but how can I be sure?
What was the first Church and how did it get started ,look at history all the rest come 1500 years later,do you think Our Lord would wait 1500 years to get His Church and Paul tells us the Church is the pillar of truth 1Tim 3:15
 
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