The veterans admin runs its health care in a socialized system and over all its a great running one. Secondly the USSR was not a socialist regime. It was a communist one, albeit not even a pure form of that. Please, again, learn a bit of what you try to speak about. Please address the socialized systems in most of Europe. Are you claiming they are all horrid as well? Why are thousands of americans going to the East for operations? and at 1/10th the cost? By board certified doctors? Most of which were educated in the US?
You’re telling us the USSR (Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics) did not operate a socialists economy? I’m telling ya Europe is mired in economic doldrums. They have no armies to speak of to even protect themselves ( outside of the Brits) WE protect their freedoms, with the finest military ever assembled. Just think what we could do if we didn’t have to have field a army to protect the free people of the world? Cause NO one else is gonna do it, heck I’ll take it one step further, NOT even one group of someones is gonna do it. No m’am they’re gonna let the USA
do it. If not for our umbrella where would they be? They neither have the money or the inclination to field a army.
How is it that a country with only 250 million people have built a society in just 200 years the likes the world has ever seen? If this is such a bad place, explain how that happened?
Liberals are such a pessimistic, gloomy lot. I dunno how they get outta bed each morning. Always thinkin the USA is a bad place, etc.
My 26 years of fire dept service (many of those years on the ambulance trasnport side) I took hundreds of patients to the local VA. It was not the best place to be, from my observations and those of the patients that had a opinion. I’m sure active duty hospitals are vastly superior. But there are hundreds of VA hospitals acorss the USA, and for sure some better than others.
I guess some go east, for healthcare because its a better a deal? I don’t have a problem with that. But like you mentioned, guess where many of their doctors are educated?
Not true,there have been many reports and one not long ago of a woman turned away from a hospital because she had no insurance and she died before she got to another. Further, even though hospitals are ‘required’ to treat, they hardly absorb the loss voluntarily. They will and do sue any person who cannot pay if they have any assets. Most people do pay those bills off, even though it may take them years and destroy any hope they have of buying a home, a newer car, or putting money aside for college. Such illness literally devestates their lives. Please take the time to learn the facts.
Like I say, all you get is “reports” never THE name of a patient or hospital.
What is so hysterical about your post is that you are spouting the most clear social darwinism of the 18th and 19th century. Spencer would be proud. Do you believe in evolution too? Survival of the fittest! You are a great proponent. I think the church thinks otherwise.
Not exactly m’am, I’m gonna try to talk as many as I can to come with me, but I’m sure some with the same outlook you adhere to, are gonna be bound and determine to drown themselves, for those with THAT mentality, I’m gonan leave it with them, but they are NOT taking me down with them without a fight. Now if that hurts people’s feelings I dunno what else to say.
Some might suggest that as we age, we do best when we grow in knowledge and wisdom, not simply remain stuck in one place. I contend of course that such a position is simply not Christian but a secularist reliance on the social darwinism of the 18th century. The term rugged individualism was very big then, a term you undoubtedly favor.
We are now told that drug companies are not gouging America. Funny, but they don’t get the same price for their drugs anywhere but here. No other country allows them to charge that much, and funny, they continue to do business with them.
Do you have ANY idea how much it costs to develop a miracle drug? You think that just happens over night? I don’t have the numbers but I’m guessing in the millions. After spending all that money, a segment of people are beating down their walls demanding that they give it away, for no other reason then they feel entitled to it. I’m not gonna tell ya drug companines are not culpable for the bad stuff they do, but there are things in place to deal with that.
I’m not for the govt telling ANY private business what it can charge for anything, because it won’t stop there. You have people wanting congress to pass laws, capping how much a bank can charge for ATM fees outside network. When threatened with such a law the bank lobby just said “ok, we’ll confine our customers to the network only.” So when I’m out of town, and need cash, I have NO place to go. I’ll pay the 2 dollars. The samething is gonna happen with drugs if the govt steps in. Why would they pour millions into R and D, and lose money on the product? They’ll just forget developing anything new, and we ALL suffer.
Yes I know you don’t want it. You don’t care that others have nothing. you have yours. You’ve made that clear. And you are a Catholic? and a Christian? go figure that one out!
Is it wrong for a Catholic not to want the govt to mess with his healthcare???
I do care about those less fortunate then I. I know I’m blessed, I don’t take it for granted. But c’mon there are millions and millions out there who just make dumb decesions, and now y’all wanna hold my feet to the fire for it. Now befroe a bunch of folks, start beating down my door asking me to pay for his healthcare (which is bascially what ya do in such a system) I wanna make sure you cut off his digital cable tv, internet, big screens, riding lawn mowers, etc. Cause we ALL know there’s a bunch of them out there, and are prolly crying the loudest for govt healthcare.
Weed them out, and then come talk to us about what we can do for those that are truly needy.
I know I speak for many folks. I worked 26 years in the fire dept, I earned a good pension for that service and labor, my wife has a good job, we do ok, but according to one political party we’re “rich?” And if given a chance they’re gonna jack up my taxes for some pie in the sky healthcare?? Frankly, I’m tired of them telling me I ain’t doin enough. They raked me over when I was working, and are still at it now. I’m one of the “rich” that benefited from the Bush tax cuts, that the dems don’t want to renew. I’m looking a 2,500 dollar a year increase in taxes. I’m sure that will make some in this country feel good and I don’t understand
why.
Tell me Spirit, how much longer can the regular folks like me, and the millions of others (many on this forum) carry this load before our backs break? We just keep on working while the govt, and a segment of the population, literally demands more and more from us. For crying out loud I already pay the feds almost 30% of my income, Its crazy.
Medicare I believe negociates with drug companies like Canada does. Bush refused to allow that in the new medicaid legislation supposed to help the poorer people. It’s a joke of the rich and the hysterical thing is it’s supported by these working class stiffs here who are rich wannabe’s and are used by the rich to further their agenda, which is keep them rich, keep everyone else poor.
M’am you really think rich folks are keeping poor people down? I wouldn’t know about being rich, but that is simply not true. NO rich guy ever kept me from being what I wanted to be. I was a firefighter because I loved the job, it was what I wanted to do, I could have chose ANY career path. NO rich guy was ever gonna keep me from my dream, heck they had NO power to prevent it… And what is the agenda of the rich? To keep the poor down for what reason?
I can’t pretend to know your life circumstance that causes you to feel this way, but I’ll listen if you want to explain.
Now that my blood pressure is up, I better go LOL…
