Ripple effect of Abortion on society

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About 8 months ago I caught the tail end of a monologue on EWTN Radio. I do not know the name of the female host of the program but she was speaking on a report which outlined what society has lost do to abortion. For example, (I’m making up the numbers here because I do not remember what they were…

Since abortion has become legal and with the abortion rate being 1.3 million abortions annually since that time, we have:
9000 less doctors to treat us when we become ill
3000 less priests within the Church
etc…
etc…
etc…

The host of the show was reading this information from a source that is unknown to me (because I didn’t catch the first part of the monologue). I was HOPING that perhaps someone here might know where I can find these numbers. I have scoured the internet and the only things I have found are the effects of Abortion on the mother, father, economy, etc. etc. Nothing however, that depicts the human resources lost due to abortion specifically. When over a million babies are killed a year, there has got to be a breakdown somewhere of what those millions upon millions of actual people would have contributed to society had they been allowed to be born based on the same number of babies who were in fact born. Anybody?
 
Yes, what treasures we have lost, but even the simplest and humble persons lost to us are great treasures
 
plus 1 trillion dollars of economic impact and a growing population necessary to support the elderly
 
And, the ripples go further than that. I grew up in a scene at home, school, TV and the streets where:
  1. The human body is a random collection of toys that betray us by doing things we didn’t mean them to do. It must be converted into something tame and saleable. If it functions in expensive, smelly or noisy ways, it is out of line.
  2. The only people who are wanted or loved are the most productive, least troublesome, most amusing ones; the rest are a waste of valuable oxygen and their existence is sad.
  3. There is nothing to look forward to after this life is over.
  4. This life will be over very soon, because an accidental nuclear war or a series of industrial accidents will destroy all life on earth in notime. There will be nothing after that for any of us. Nothing we produce or achieve will outlast the next several years at most.
  5. Only adults can produce anything. To ask children to do anything real – say, make a real hat and actually wear it instead of making a paper hat and handing it in to be thrown away, or taking care of a real baby for a few hours instead of a doll that wriggles and squeaks – is a terrible thing, but to order youth to wait ten years before being productive, inform them that only the productive are valued, and then let them know they don’t have ten years to live, is fine, as is just “getting rid of them” or “taking care of them” in their first months, because it saves society the trouble of figuring out what to do with them.
And then if young folks are angry and sullen, the answer was to scream at us, harass us, drug us, jail us and lock us away in institutions.
So, between a collapsed economy, an abortion/euthanasia/BC/ZPG dominant cultural trend, and the threat of destruction by war or industrial disaster, the resulting way of thinking and living was necessarily empty, scary, hostile, jumpy and desolate. That’s fallout from abortion as much as anything else.
 
There is no way to measure the loss, or even the societal gain, that results directly from abortion.

We will also be losing sociopaths with capacity to commit crimes and not feel a shred of remorse. We will be losing murderers, pedophiles, spouse abusers, white collar corporate criminals in addition to doctors, researchers, priests.

In my opinion, it is far better to focus on solving today’s problems* today*. We can plan for tomorrow, but until we actually get our hands on tomorrow there’s nothing we can do about those things that disturb us.

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captbackfire said:
There is no way to measure the loss, or even the societal gain, that results directly from abortion.

We will also be losing sociopaths with capacity to commit crimes and not feel a shred of remorse. We will be losing murderers, pedophiles, spouse abusers, white collar corporate criminals in addition to doctors, researchers, priests.

In my opinion, it is far better to focus on solving today’s problems* today*. We can plan for tomorrow, but until we actually get our hands on tomorrow there’s nothing we can do about those things that disturb us.

capt
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Unfortunately we are currently killing our tomorrow so that we can actually never get our hands or plan for it since they are gone. 1.4 million ever year are missing!
 
There will still be children who are born, grow into adulthood, and run this country, regardless of how many are lost to abortion. Tomorrow will come no matter how sad we might be about the losses today.

And by the way, my own child is missing from my neighborhood, and I am pro-choice.

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captbackfire said:
There will still be children who are born, grow into adulthood, and run this country, regardless of how many are lost to abortion. Tomorrow will come no matter how sad we might be about the losses today.

And by the way, my own child is missing from my neighborhood, and I am pro-choice.

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it really saddens me that we can go on thinking that killing our children is a choice.
 
st_lucy said:
it really saddens me that we can go on thinking that killing our children is a choice.
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You obviously do not think that “killing our children is a choice,” so I would think it would be prudent for you not to align yourself personally with those who advocate abortion rights. I believe that deciding what to do when facing an unexpected or unplanned pregnancy should be the decision of the woman, the man involved (if he is, indeed, still involved), and the God whom these individuals worship. If they do not worship, then the choice should be made between the two of them and any other individuals they choose to consult. They may choose* not* to pursue abortion.

I’m always amazed that so many people equate “choice” with “murder”. If someone in a restaurant asks you, “would you prefer butter or sour cream?”, the fact that you choose butter does not make you a murderer. Infusing the word “choice” with the singular connotation of “murder” is a rhetorical hijack and obscures the efforts some people put forth to try to make changes in society with regard to the abortion issue. This is only one of many explanations for the polarization on the subject and why little progress has been made by pro-life advocates in the last 35 years.

Yes, some women choose abortion, but not all do. I simply feel that they should have the opportunity to consider all their options, abortion included, and then take action which is most appropriate for them, their God, their families.

You keep throwing “murder” out there and you will be galvanizing your opponents, not shaming or threatening them, and certainly not weakening them.

capt
 
captbackfire said:
I’m always amazed that so many people equate “choice” with “murder”.
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A prominent pro-abortion feminist has admitted just that:

Prominent Feminist Admits “Abortion is Murder” but "I Am a Firm Supporter"
Unlike her fellow pro-abortion colleagues, however, Paglia continued on to - as she termed it - face the ethical consequences" of embracing abortion. “I have always frankly admitted that abortion is murder, the extermination of the powerless by the powerful,” she said.
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Paglia then admitted that in order to rationalize and accept abortion, one would have to not only accept, but logically condone other atrocities against life - that is, one would have to accept murder for the sake of protecting a particular, more important “right”, as she does. The author criticizes those on the social left who parrot the scientifically untenable position that the fetus is just a “lump of tissue”, saying that those who do so are simply afraid to face the consequences of their pro-abortion position.
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"Liberals for the most part have shrunk from facing the ethical consequences of their embrace of abortion, which results in the annihilation of concrete individuals and not just clumps of insensate tissue," explained Paglia. "The gigantic, instantaneous coast-to-coast rage directed at Sarah Palin when she was identified as pro-life was, I submit, a psychological response by loyal liberals who on some level do not want to open themselves to deep questioning about abortion and its human consequences."
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captbackfire said:
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You keep throwing “murder” out there and you will be galvanizing your opponents, not shaming or threatening them, and certainly not weakening them.

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It occurred to me that calling Hitler a murderer galvanized him. He wasn’t shamed, threatened nor weakened by the accusation but it was still the truth.

Now I don’t compare suffering women with Hitler; but I certainly compare abortionists with him. They are playing God. Taking human life is the greatest ego - power rush - a human can have.
 
KestrelRose said:
It occurred to me that calling Hitler a murderer galvanized him. He wasn’t shamed, threatened nor weakened by the accusation but it was still the truth.

Now I don’t compare suffering women with Hitler (and why not?); but I certainly compare abortionists with him. They are playing God. Taking human life is the greatest ego - power rush - a human can have (How do you know this?).
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It is truly a sad thing that Abortion is murder even if people say it by choice. Abortion not only effects the material world, but also affects the spiritual world as well.

Think of the millions of souls that are now in heaven that had no choice to really live. Our collective sins combined with abortion is truly a travesty in and of itself. No matter what happens now. Those millions of souls cry for retribution for not having lived at all. We, as a society, have forgotten who are maker is and will probably be punished collectively as a whole.
Do not forget the old testament scriptures of how god punished his people Whenever they went astray. It is the same even now. We accept or compromise what is truly good for our own selfish reasons. Though, there is still hope for all of us because true change only happens through great suffering. World war 2 is an example of that.
 
What does pro-choice mean. A woman has the right to terminate a pregnancy. This means killing a child.
 
Why do I not compare suffering women with Hitler. Because they are suffering and Hitler was not.

Why do I think that the deliberate killing of human beings is an ego rush. Because it is the ultimate power that a person can have over another.
 
Lets get real people, when you hear the phrase “pro-choice” we all damn well know that it’s talking about abortion. When someone says they are pro-choice, they are saying “i am pro-choice to kill unborn children”. It doesn’t mean “I’m pro-choice to wear blue pants or red pants or eat tomatoes or have ketsup instad of catsup”. Just as “gay” has been socially changed to mean homosexual, “choice” in the context of “pro-choice” has come to mean “pro-choice to kill unborn children”.

The feminazi groups and abortion industry has changed semantics to suit themselves. Calling a spade a spade is offensive to their delicate sensititives. Abortion kills an unborn child, it wounds their mother and harms society. Pro-Choice is about choosing abortion, its about choosing to slaughter an innceont children.

I dont’ care if you choose pork or beef, if you choose chocolate ice cream or vanila, I dont’ care if you choose to have sex with a man or a lady, if you work at Burger King or Subway. I am “Pro-Choice” in the regard that I advocate democracy, equality, and people being able to choose their life path. Yet, I am not “Pro-choice to kill unborn children”. But if I say “I am Pro-Choice” people know immediately that I am saying “I support abortion”.

Its absolutely insane that the pro-choice to kill unborn children lobby actually think they can steal an all encompassing word like “choice”.

At the end of the day, as much as the bort heads want to whinge and moan and wave a nice colourful sign about the place:

PRO-CHOICE = ABORTION.
 
Hmmm… Thanks to everyone who contributed. Yes, I understand that each life is priceless; however, I was and still am interested in the data spoken about. Yes, I also understand that along with the “good” people lost in abortion there are also “bad” people like “murders.” However, these people too are priceless in the eyes of God. Now, since my question was not addressed I assume that no one knows where I can find the information I requested when I began the thread. Thanks anyway, and God bless.
 
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