Risks of isolated communities: SSPX community in St. Marys, Kansas

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A Roman Catholic congregation can’t develop its own interpretations–hence my wondering about how insulation could eventually lead to shifting away from Rome.
In this case, it was the other way around. Shifting away from Rome lead to isolation. Similar to that schismatic Feeneyite group in Richmond, NH, this . . . SSPX group in Kansas . . . is not in full communion with . . . the Catholic Church. . . .
 
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Is Front Royal super-duper Catholic? It’s within my diocese…
I haven’t been out that way in over 20 years (used to live in northern Virginia) but I do keep up with the progress of Christendom College, so don’t take my word as definitive. Front Royal is, to the best of my knowledge, not a predominantly Catholic town. There is the local parish, about which I know nothing, and then there is Christendom College. I would guess that Christendom faculty and students are quite active in the local parish — it’s hard to imagine otherwise. I would say that as small towns in Virginia go, it is the best place for a Catholic to be. I don’t think local employment is the best, and in any case, businesses in small towns anywhere tend to hire locals as opposed to newcomers. Front Royal is billed as being “within commuting distance of DC”, but that is not a commute I’d want to make (60-70 miles) — some people do, so they can have a nicer and larger house than they could afford closer in. Not for me, but everyone’s different.
 
this schismatic SSPX group in Kansas has cut itself off from the Catholic Church, so they are no longer part of the Catholic network. As they do no recognize the authority of anyone inside the Catholic Church, they feel free to make their own rules, as they please.
The SSPX is not schismatic and they do recognize the authority of the Church and of the local bishop, however, they work outside the diocesan framework for reasons too lengthy to go into here — reasons they see as good, but some do not see it that way. They have faculties for all sacraments, though for matrimony they do have to approach the local bishop for faculties first. It is not unknown for the SSPX to be given the use of parish churches on an ad hoc basis, though as far as I am aware, no SSPX chapel operates under the direction of the local bishop. It is an irregular situation that is in the process of being resolved.
 
A Roman Catholic congregation can’t develop its own interpretations–hence my wondering about how insulation could eventually lead to shifting away from Rome.
OK. I thought it was a more general question.
 
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In answer to your question about the abortion situation and that young lady. It sounds like the priest is wrong. If there was a situation where one of her friends had an abortion by itself would not make the friend guilty.
Her friend, if she were Catholic would bear the penalty of excommunication. If she helped her friend procure the abortion then she would be excommunicated if for example she drove her friend to the clinic knowing that she was going to have the abortion, or if she fronted the money for the abortion. If she counseled the friend having the abortion and that counsel played a major part then she would also share in the culpability for the abortion. Just the fact that her friend had teh abortion and she wasn’t able to prevent it would not make her culpable of the abortion itself and it would not have incurred the penalty of excommunication.
 
Yeah I would not want to commute from front Royal to DC, that would be a nightmare!

I got a buddy who takes the bus from Warrenton to DC and it takes him about two hours round-trip.

I’m tethered to DC for at least the next 10 years. After that, I’m going to sell my place here and move to a less hectic, more affordable location. I really like Virginia and wouldn’t mind staying within the state. I’ll have to check out Front Royal, it sounds nice.
 
do recognize the authority of the Church and of the local bishop, however,
They honor the local bishop, pray for him, but are not affected in any way by his “authority”. If a different bishop were appointed, or if the bishop chair were left vacant for 10 years, or if the whole diocese were dissolved, this would not really influence SSPX local operations. They might need to look up new contact info for whatever diocese the city was merged into, to forward routine notifications to.

But the only Authority is in SSPX chain of command.
The ministries in this city are not isolated. SSPX is world wide.
 
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I think it paints the sspx as a neo Nazi cult
 
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There is already another thread about this.
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Risks of isolated communities: SSPX community in St. Marys, Kansas Moral Theology
There’s an article in The Atlantic’s website about St. Marys, Kansas, and the Catholic community that’s developed there–mostly it’s dominated by an SSPX parish–and how the residents are there to live immersed as fully as possible in a Catholic lifestyle. I can’t open it anymore it’s subscription only, and I used up my free articles. Here’s my question–what happens if a community (any community) isolates itself and the leaders make mistakes? An anecdote in the article describes a young woman …
 
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I was talking to a lesbian separatist once and somewhat uncharitably asked her why, if she felt that way, she didn’t stop talking to me and, um, separate. Story just came to mind.
 
Isolation is not one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit.

Bad things happen to isolated people .
Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
Are you not isolated to some extent if you sell all of your possessions?
 
We ended up there by chance few years ago. There was some kind of a festival so we decided to stop. Nice but I am not sure I would like to live there. Few stores downtown (one of the biggest store was a gun store, what looked like a cafe was closed maybe because was Sunday), a tiny local history museum and very little diversity. It was surreal to think we were only 60 miles from DC.
 
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Yeah, I’ve never been. I sometimes think that I like the idea of living in a small town much more than I would like actually living in a small town. I’m a big fan of the suburbs. 😝
 
I think it really comes down to how well you fit in the small town community. I lived in a small town for a while, everybody was somehow related and everybody belonged to the same church. A lot of gossiping and pettiness. Very very hard to fit in if you are an ‘outsider’.
 
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While I don’t worship with the SSPX and have my reservations about doing so, I don’t see the problem. They’ve established themselves within a town, are forming a strong faith base, engaged in work and commerce, and govern themselves for the most part, all within the confines of national law. To be honest, it sounds like the formation of early monastic communities, the Benedict option, as I’ve heard it called recently.
I think it paints the sspx as a neo Nazi cult
I expected nothing less form the majority of the press.
 
Is Front Royal super-duper Catholic? It’s within my diocese…
I used to live in Strasburg, just a bit to the west of Front Royal, and also worked with many people who lived there. Overall, it is not notably Catholic, but I understand that the local Church (St. John the Baptist) is quite traditionally minded, possibly due at least in part to the proximity of Christendom College, having at least one EF daily Mass per week and one EF each Sunday. If I read the Mass schedule (St. John the Baptist Roman Catholic Church | Front Royal, VA | 540-635-3780) correctly, there are also 3 Sunday OF Masses that are said at least partially in Latin as well. My wife and I are planning to retire to an area near the mountains to the west of DC, but I think it unlikely that it will be to Front Royal - not much there other than the scenery to attract me personally.
 
I tried to convince my wife that we should retire in WV…that idea was QUICKLY shot down… 🤣
 
I can see Biff Tanen saying this…

“Why don’t ya make like a separatist and seperate!”

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Yes - pretty scenery and not much else. Especially for now while I still have to work for a living.
 
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