Rite of Baptism Question

[puzzleannie]

I never said I would tell or boss the Priest. My original post stated would it be ok to “ask” the Priest to do the baptism in this manner.

which is why I suggested you ask him. my comments were addressed equally to other posters who seem to be urging you to dictate the circumstances of the baptism.

 

[hudson]

Understood thanks for the help.

 

[Cider]

Why is it that we have to have this argument over Novus Ordo all the time in the Traditional Catholicism forum of all places?

It’s not like you guys don’t know that Novus Ordo is the name given to the mass of Paul VI.

 

[ConstantineTG]

So are you saying everything else I read that was included in the Rite of Baptism from 1962 is not needed and irrelevant?

Did I say that?

 

[ConstantineTG]

The “NO” stands for Novus Ordo, or the New Mass, adopted after Vatican II. It is also referred to as the “OF” or Ordinary Form. This Mass is in the venacular.“EF” stands for Extraordinary Form, which refers to the 1962 Missal Mass, in Latin.

Both forms are recognized, legit, and valid. There is only One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, just different versions of Mass.

Hope this helps.

I haven’t heard of a new Mass. All I know there is one Roman Rite Mass with two expressions (maybe 3 with Anglican Use?)

 

[Peggy_in_Burien]

I haven’t heard of a new Mass. All I know there is one Roman Rite Mass with two expressions (maybe 3 with Anglican Use?)

When I was a kid, what is now commonly referred to as the Novus Ordo Mass was called, informally, the New Mass. It was the English/Vernacular Mass that came out after Vatican II, during the 1960s. Since we had previously been using the Latin 1962 Missal, we called that the “old Mass.” Chalk it up to us ignorant school kids.

The 1962 Missal or TLM was never banned, just discouraged and discontinued in many diocese, including mine. Now, the present Holy Father has encouraged it to be available to the faithful, and we have the option of attending either the Novus Ordo (new order, btw) or the Extraordinary Form, which is the 1962 Latin Mass.

What is funny is that lots of folks think of the EF Mass as the “new Mass”, and the Ordinary Form, or Novus Ordo, as the “old Mass.” Just goes to prove that everything old is new again!

 

[Will_S]

And shopping around to find a Priest who will perform a Baptism to suit the wishes of the parent seems wrong.

Trying to discourage someone from seeking the sacraments in the traditional form by claiming that it’s “supersitition” eek seems VERY wrong.

 

[mullenpm]

Will S.

Where did I say anything about “superstition.” Don’t put words in my mouth. That is not fair, just to make your point.

 

[Will_S]

Will S.

Where did I say anything about “superstition.” Don’t put words in my mouth. That is not fair, just to make your point.

You’re right, it was the user “Cristiano”. I’m sorry for implying that it was you.

 

[Cristiano]

Make very sure that you do not choose the new rite of baptism out of superstition! Just because it is done in the vernacular does not mean that it is more meaningful. The sacrament has the same sanctifying effect in either form. Following novelties is acceptable if the faith is correct.

The new rite of baptism has been the nor in the Church for the last few decades and often it has been the only option so I think that it would be stupid to assume that people accept it out of superstition in a novelty. Please provide a reasonable argument where it indicates that people could have used as superstition. Please also show to me that vernacular is not more meaningful considering that “being meaningful” is really a subjective feeling and not an objective fact.

 

[Cristiano]

Trying to discourage someone from seeking the sacraments in the traditional form by claiming that it’s “supersitition” eek seems VERY wrong.

You’re right, it was the user “Cristiano”. I’m sorry for implying that it was you.

If you were to read what is written you would probably understand that I said that people should not approach the rites performed in accordance to the EF out of superstition. Going from that to saying that seeking the rites performed according to the EF is superstition it is a blatant logical fallacy.