Rock=The Devil's Music?

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By the way, there are anti-drug songs from the hippie era.

“Kicks” by Paul Revere & the Raiders
“Acid Queen” by The Who
“The Needle and the Damage Done” by Neil Young

come to mind.
 
CTA1967 said:
By the way, there are anti-drug songs from the hippie era.

“Kicks” by Paul Revere & the Raiders
“Acid Queen” by The Who
“The Needle and the Damage Done” by Neil Young

come to mind.
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For the most part this was not a matter of being anti drugs in general, but a particular drug was bad. Neil Young may have been anti needle at that time, but he used other drugs. He may have been singing about Stephen Stills who became a heroin junkie.

I am not able to keep the thought on track here. Please let me try again.

Music is powerful. It can evoke in listeners a range of emotions and feelings, meaning it can stimulate them. It can arouse people sexually, or lead them to inner calm, for example, but also a host of other things.

Religion tells us that we are better off keeping certain potential behaviors under control or on a leash.

Another example would be music with dancing, which seem to naturally go together. Some people dress modestly and others try to be alluring. A woman might dance an alluring dance while she removes her clothing. Its doubtful that she would do this while a violin orhcestra is playing a Vienese waltz. Right? Certain music stimulates certain temperament and mood, Right?

I don’t want to have a discussion on strippers or whether that is immoral or not. I only want to try to come to assent on the fact that certain music stimulates certain mood or temperament or passions or feelings.

Maybe we should even back up another step.

Do you agree that music can be stimulating? We can fill in the blank later.
 
Yep its stimulating. AC/DC - Back in Black turn it up!!! 😃
 
grandfather said:
Another example would be music with dancing, which seem to naturally go together. Some people dress modestly and others try to be alluring. A woman might dance an alluring dance while she removes her clothing. Its doubtful that she would do this while a violin orhcestra is playing a Vienese waltz. Right? Certain music stimulates certain temperament and mood, Right?
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To be quite honest, that is definitely not the case these days. There are plenty of females who show too much while playing an orchestral instrument. Which is really a shame because some are rather musically gifted. And with dancing, it seems like anything goes now.

And about stimulation, yes, if someone’s screaming at the top of their lungs playing a heavily distorted guitar on which he only knows two chords, yes, that will probably affect my temperament. Otherwise, there are many rather intelligently written songs that would fall under the “rock” category by music industry standards.
 
grandfather said:
What does it stimulate?
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My blood…gets me pumped up when I wanna rock out!

When I wanna be mellow, John Denver, etc

Great if you dont like it. Dont push why you think rock is evil onto others - thats a job for fundamentalists 😉
 
goofyjim said:
The answer again is, no, rock is not the devil’s music.
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some, of course. But this poster needs to acknowledge some country is the devils music as well. Until then he isnt being realistic.

and lets say for sake of argument that ALL rock n roll is the devils…gotta give it up fpr ol scratch cuz theres some awesome tunes out there! 😃
 
Thinks4Himself said:
some, of course. But this poster needs to acknowledge some country is the devils music as well. Until then he isnt being realistic.
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That wasn’t the point I was trying to make with that thread. I’m trying to get across that trying to avoid any entire genre of music is just senseless if you apply the same standards to other genres. Throwing the baby out of the bathwater. And bigotry in some cases.
 
Thinks4Himself said:
some, of course. But this poster needs to acknowledge some country is the devils music as well. Until then he isnt being realistic.

and lets say for sake of argument that ALL rock n roll is the devils…gotta give it up fpr ol scratch cuz theres some awesome tunes out there! 😃
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Remember, the Devil went down to Georgia…not Motown. 😃
 
Right, so I’m just throwing this out there as a thought.

Shouldn’t music be viewed the same way all other things are? That is, does it ultimately lead to reverence to God, humility, piety, etc? Should we view life as being able to take “time-outs” from growing in holiness (not haughtiness!), from learning about God and His ways, from conforming our will to His?

Could this not apply to “religiously” themed music as well? Whether it be christian - rock/rap/country/soul/classical/etc,etc, does it lead us to worship God the way He wants us to? Because to be sure, I’ve heard heavy metal music with christian lyrics, but does that lead us to strive to be virtuous? To be humble before God? To fear God and His ways? To repent and change our ways?

Again, just questions, not judgements
 
northstar3 said:
Right, so I’m just throwing this out there as a thought.

Shouldn’t music be viewed the same way all other things are? That is, does it ultimately lead to reverence to God, humility, piety, etc? Should we view life as being able to take “time-outs” from growing in holiness (not haughtiness!), from learning about God and His ways, from conforming our will to His?

Could this not apply to “religiously” themed music as well? Whether it be christian - rock/rap/country/soul/classical/etc,etc, does it lead us to worship God the way He wants us to? Because to be sure, I’ve heard heavy metal music with christian lyrics, but does that lead us to strive to be virtuous? To be humble before God? To fear God and His ways? To repent and change our ways?

Again, just questions, not judgements
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One could apply that to any endeavour – reading, eating, drawing, etc.

Must one only read the Bible, the Church Doctors, and Lives of the Saints? Can one read “secular” literature? Is “entertainment” evil? How much is one allowed to “enjoy” something?

Sometimes, listening to a song is the audio version of eating a cookie. Normally I eat to fuel my body, to keep myself healthy, or as a social exercise to interact with family and friends (all Good, I reckon). Sometimes, though, I just want a cookie.

Same with music. I love the old hymns, have only recently discovered polyphony, etc. But sometimes…you just ain’t seen n-n-n-nuthin’ yet.

I think if the music is not in and of itself immoral (lyrics etc), it is the equivalent of a cookie. Have a few, enjoy, but don’t make a meal of them.

Moderation. Just don’t be a slave to any of your appetites – except your appetite for God.
 
Northstar, by that logic, should we not listen to Mozart’s “the Magic Flute” since it’s based on freemasonry?
 
Ghoti said:
One could apply that to any endeavour – reading, eating, drawing, etc.

Must one only read the Bible, the Church Doctors, and Lives of the Saints? Can one read “secular” literature? Is “entertainment” evil? How much is one allowed to “enjoy” something?

Sometimes, listening to a song is the audio version of eating a cookie. Normally I eat to fuel my body, to keep myself healthy, or as a social exercise to interact with family and friends (all Good, I reckon). Sometimes, though, I just want a cookie.

Same with music. I love the old hymns, have only recently discovered polyphony, etc. But sometimes…you just ain’t seen n-n-n-nuthin’ yet.

I think if the music is not in and of itself immoral (lyrics etc), it is the equivalent of a cookie. Have a few, enjoy, but don’t make a meal of them.

Moderation. Just don’t be a slave to any of your appetites – except your appetite for God.
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To be sure, I’m not saying any of those things I was mentioning (or that you mentioned) are immoral, rather, are they beneficial to our salvation? That’s more the direction I was going. Balance is indeed key, after all, I’ve seen pictures of contemplative monks tossing a football around, playing piano, even catching a flick (though usually religiously themed 🙂 ).
 
CTA1967 said:
Northstar, by that logic, should we not listen to Mozart’s “the Magic Flute” since it’s based on freemasonry?
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I’m not tossing down judgments, just pondering things out loud 🙂
 
Thinks4Himself said:
My blood…gets me pumped up when I wanna rock out!

When I wanna be mellow, John Denver, etc

Great if you dont like it. Dont push why you think rock is evil onto others - thats a job for fundamentalists 😉
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To be fair, I don’t think anyone on this thread has made the assertion that all rock music is evil (and subsequently, no other genre of music is evil at all). People are asking questions, but so far no judgments have been passed (unless I missed it - which is always possible).
northstar3 said:
Because to be sure, I’ve heard heavy metal music with christian lyrics, but does that lead us to strive to be virtuous? To be humble before God? To fear God and His ways? To repent and change our ways?
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The music of Theocracy has done that for me. So has Saviour Machine (Every time I hear the line “reach out and touch the face of God” in their song “The Prophecy” on Legend Part I, I get chills).

To be sure, that has not happened with other Christian metal bands I’ve heard (like Mortification).
 
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