Rocks Thrown at Border Patrol Chopper

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Ani Ibi:
What exactly are you saying? It seems to me that you are saying that Mexicans wanting to be potwashers in the U.S. have some sort of divine right to a green card. Please tell me that this is not so.
I’m fascinated to know how you deduced this from what I’ve said. Please elaborate on how you jumped to such an interesting conclusion.

Mike
 
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Tonks40:
They get their state and federal income tax taken out just like the rest of us, and at the end of the work day, go back to Mexico to sleep.
…what about the ones who don’t want to or can’t return to Mexico every day?

Mike
 
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MikeWM:
…what about the ones who don’t want to or can’t return to Mexico every day?

Mike
Simple…if they don’t want to return to Mexico, they immigrate - legally! If they can’t, they can go to their nearest American consulate (or other country for that matter), give their reasons why they can’t stay in Mexico, and they may be granted political assylum. But those are very rare cases.

The mentality of those who try and immigrate illegally in the are those who are impatient. They’ve been caught up in the greed and the wealth this country seems to promise them, and want things to happen NOW. These are NOT the type of people we want here in the US. We want responsible, law-abiding immigrants who don’t feel they have to hide, who can hold their heads up high, and be proud of the work that they can provide. There is sooo much corruption south of us, that this mentality has flooded over to the common people there.

I’m sorry I have such strong feelings about this, but I see it from the side of my ex who is a Border Patrol agent, and my husband, who is a legal immigrant from Canada.
 
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MikeWM:
I’m fascinated to know how you deduced this from what I’ve said. Please elaborate on how you jumped to such an interesting conclusion.

Mike
It is not a conclusion. It is a confusion. I asked for clarification because what you had said was confusing and then I set out what the confusion was. The appropriate response is for you to clarify what you said.
 
Ani Ibi:
It is not a conclusion. It is a confusion. I asked for clarification because what you had said was confusing and then I set out what the confusion was. The appropriate response is for you to clarify what you said.
How was what I said confusing? I said that Mexicans couldn’t get a visa to immigrate to the US if they were going to work as a potwasher or a cleaner. That is a fact.

You somehow deduced from that I thought that Mexicans had a divine right (your words) to do so. That’s such a wild jump that I don’t see how clarifying the current legal factual position will shed any light on what would clearly be an opinion of how things ‘should be’.

I’ve offered no opinions at all in this thread.

Mike
 
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Tonks40:
Simple…if they don’t want to return to Mexico, they immigrate - legally! If they can’t, they can go to their nearest American consulate (or other country for that matter), give their reasons why they can’t stay in Mexico, and they may be granted political assylum. But those are very rare cases.
Yes - and the rest of your points are perfectly good points too.

Nevertheless, I wasn’t entering into a wide debate about the rights and wrongs of immigration. I was merely saying that the average Mexican with $1500 in his pocket would have no route open to him to legally immigrate into the USA. (working in the USA but still living in Mexico isn’t immigration).

Mike
 
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