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[steve-b]

steve-b:

I’m just giving you the history of how “Roman” was used by some and why certain arguments took the points they did.

Thanks. I was aware of the story already. There was a lot of too doo about this years ago when I used to edit Wikipedia.

Isn’t it possible for anyone to edit Wiki?

 

[AndrewAxland]

Isn’t it possible for anyone to edit Wiki?

Yes. Anyone can. You don’t even need to start an account (unless they changed that).

That’s part of the reason I gave up on WP. Any idiot can edit it, and sometimes it seems that every idiot does. An enormous amount of time is wasted on damage control.

 

[Augustinian]

Isn’t it possible for anyone to edit Wiki?

That’s what makes it theoretically the world’s most accurate encyclopedia.

If anyone who reads it sees a factual error, they can just correct it.

 

[AndrewAxland]

That’s what makes it theoretically the world’s most accurate encyclopedia.

Theory and practice, unfortunately, often do not coincide. There are a lot of users who use the site to publicize their own crackpot theories, products, inventions, original “research”. “alternative” medical scams, political ideologies, religious idiosyncrasies, historical revisions and so on that it is a constant battle to clean up their mess. The Wiki system itself makes it far to difficult to do so.

 

[steve-b]

steve-b:

Isn’t it possible for anyone to edit Wiki?

That’s what makes it theoretically the world’s most accurate encyclopedia.

If anyone who reads it sees a factual error, they can just correct it.

Then why this disclaimer standing behind nothing

 

[bassmansteiny]

Ok in an earlier post I made on this thread I found one of the articles that mentioned where Roman Catholic may have come from.

Why 'Roman' Catholics? | Catholic Answers Q&A

 

[hope]

That it has been used in a disparaging way is not a myth.

When did the term Roman Catholic Church first come into being

Answer
It is not possible to give an exact year when the Catholic Church began to be called the “Roman Catholic Church,” but it is possible to approximate it. The term originates as an insult created by Anglicans who wished to refer to themselves as Catholic. They thus coined the term “Roman Catholic” to distinguish those in union with Rome from themselves and to create a sense in which they could refer to themselves as Catholics (by attempting to deprive actual Catholics to the right to the term).

Different variants of the “Roman” insult appeared at different times. The earliest form was the noun “Romanist” (one belonging to the Catholic Church), which appeared in England about 1515-1525. The next to develop was the adjective “Romish” (similar to something done or believed in the Catholic Church), which appeared around 1525-1535. Next came the noun “Roman Catholic” (one belonging to the Catholic Church), which was coined around 1595-1605. Shortly thereafter came the verb “to Romanize” (to make someone a Catholic or to become a Catholic), which appeared around 1600-10. Between 1665 and 1675 we got the noun “Romanism” (the system of Catholic beliefs and practices), and finally we got a latecomer term about 1815-1825, the noun “Roman Catholicism,” a synonym for the earlier “Romanism.”

A similar complex of insults arose around “pope.” About 1515-25 the Anglicans coined the term “papist” and later its derivative “papism.” A quick follow-up, in 1520-1530, was the adjective “popish.” Next came “popery” (1525-1535), then “papistry” (1540-1550), with its later derivatives, “papistical” and “papistic.” (Source: Random House Webster’s College Dictionary, 1995 ed.)

This complex of insults is revealing as it shows the depths of animosity English Protestants had toward the Church. No other religious body (perhaps no other group at all, even national or racial) has such a complex of insults against it woven into the English language as does the Catholic Church. Even today many Protestants who have no idea what the origin of the term is cannot bring themselves to say “Catholic” without qualifying it or replacing it with an insult.

Much earlier than the 19th century.
I found EWTN had a very pertinent article
How Did the Catholic Church Get Her Name?

The term Roman Catholic is not used by the Church herself; it is a relatively modern term, and one, moreover, that is confined largely to the English language. The English-speaking bishops at the First Vatican Council in 1870, in fact, conducted a vigorous and successful campaign to insure that the term Roman Catholic was nowhere included in any of the Council’s official documents about the Church herself, and the term was not included.