Romney stands by message in secret video

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SeekNFind said:
What’s actually scary is that Catholics hone in on the abortion issue and forget everything else that is wrong with Romney. Many simply ignore the fact that Romney will say whatever he needs to to win. He is pro-life because it suits him now. He’s anti-ACA because it’s convenient. And you also shouldn’t assume that because a person is anti-Romney they are pro-Obama. Neither candidate truly fits a Catholic world view but I generally see comments demonizing Obama without giving Romney his fair share. Both of these men are not great choices but I darn sure won’t be waving the Romney banner because he’s pro-life AT THE MOMENT.
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It’s so convenient for pro Obama Catholics to point to a lack of perfection in Romney’s position regarding life issues. The fact that MANY people including Dr Nathanson, Abby Johnson and me have also gone from pro abortion to staunchly pro life seems to be an inconvenient truth. I know how pro aborts think because I was one. I was raised by them and simply parroted their secular blather about blobs of tissue. I believe Mitt Romney because I know that nothing would change me back to my former disgraceful state of sin.

You have ZERO evidence that Mitt Romney would return to what was frankly a rather mild pro choice position (similar to that of John Roberts if you listened to the hearings when he was being considered for SCOTUS). But it does provide some cover to those who are otherwise turning themselves into human pretzels to pretend it doesn’t matter that Obama is fine with infanticide, abortion at any stage, taxpayer funding of abortion, making religious organizations pay for abortion inducing drugs and sterilization and likened a baby to punishment.

Boy it’s pretty hard to distinguish between the two candidates’ positions on life issues 🤷

Lisa
 
SeekNFind said:
I totally agree with this post. It’s so funny how people conveniently forget the horrible state this country was in when Bush left office. Romney is a scary dude with an even scarier world view. shiver
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And amazingly enough the “horrible state” began right after the Dems took over Congress. Coincidence? I don’t THINK so…

Lisa
 
SeekNFind said:
I totally agree with this post. It’s so funny how people conveniently forget the horrible state this country was in when Bush left office. Romney is a scary dude with an even scarier world view. shiver
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Obama is an amateur. His first term totally reflects his inexperience and incompetence in dealing with the world’s largest economy. Obama never ran a lemonade stand, much less a government entity of any size. How’s that hope and change working out for the USA? Not well, not well at all.
 
Alan55 said:
The article that I linked to describes trade agreements with South Korea, Colombia and Panama. That counts as “several.”
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That would be “a few” - not “several,” especially since they were all grouped together.
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Alan55:
I agree that those trade agreements were first sought by George Bush and opposed by the Democrats in Congress. However, under Obama, the Republicans opposed the bills and Obama pushed for their approval. Those facts were clearly stated in the article. I’d amend your description to “Initiated by Bush and opposed by Democrats, then backed by Obama and opposed by Republicans.” Lots of Republican-initiated legislation or legislative proposals were backed by Obama and opposed by Republicans to deny him any “wins.” These trade bills were just one example.

But you knew that already. 😉
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I’m glad you recognize that the only trade agreements signed by Obama weren’t even initiated by him. He has proved himself useless in this arena, as he is in every other.

As the article states, Reid opposed all three agreements and voted against them. The Republican majority is what got those passed, not the Democrats. Otherwise, they would have been passed when Democrats had the majority in both houses during the first two years in office.

But you knew that already. 😉

Nice try, but a swing and a miss, once again. Also, you didn’t answer my question…did you like the trade agreements that Reid opposed and voted against?
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
It’s all flatulence. Polls are designed to make one side or the other feel good to cheer up their followers. I’ll wait for the poll that’ll be taken on Election Day.
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Agree. The only thing I’d add is the possibility of polls designed to dampen the spirits of Romney supporters by oversampling Democrats to create polls that make it look like Obama is pulling ahead even though he might not be.

Ishii
 
In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the
University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the
Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: “A democracy is always
temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent
form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until
the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous
gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority
always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from
the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally
collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a
dictatorship.”

"The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200
years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
 
Romney will protect religious freedom, Obama won’t. That is the most important thing for me.
 
Alan55 said:
The term “vulture capitalist” has nothing to do with Romney’s wealth, but rather to the way that he obtained it. Here’s how Newt Gingrich put it in an interview on the Today show: “Look, I’m for capitalism. But if somebody comes in, takes all the money out of your company and then leaves you bankrupt while they go off with millions, that’s not traditional capitalism.”

I don’t think that it’s correct to say that Obama is “poor in the economy” or “doesn’t care about a lot of people’s jobs.” The recovery from the depths of the economic disaster that began in Bush’s second term has been slow but real nonetheless**, with an improvement in the financial and banking sectors, all time highs in the stock** market, rising employment, and a stabilizing of the housing market. When Romney faced a recession in Massachusetts, his record wasn’t any better. I have no faith that Romney could have done much better than Obama has done under similar circumstances.
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The economy isn’t doing better. We are now the end result of 6 trillion spent by the government , that it didn’t take in,(it is called a deficit) while the clown at the Federal Reserve has put us through QE1, QE2 and has promised us unending QE3. The Stock market is up and housing sales slightly up because of almost free money.

IT IS CALLED A BUBBLE. AND believe it or not it is the very same thing that got us in trouble to start with.

As far as new jobs, this film critic in chief, (RE: recent flatulence at the UN) has put more people on disability then the economy has put to work. If not for all the folks who stopped looking for jobs the unemployment rate would be better then 15%.

So, while the Ambassador to Libya body is being drug through Benghazi, our film critic is partying in Vegas. It is clear to me, we get to choose between dumb and dumber.

But, “Ain’t that America, ….Little pink houses for you and me. “
 
oneofmany said:
In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the
University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the
Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: “A democracy is always
temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent
form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until
the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous
gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority
always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from
the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally
collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a
dictatorship.”

"The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200
years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
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Given Roberts, decision on the Obummer mandate, we are definitely headed back to bondage. As we are able to be compelled by the government to perform any action as long as the down side is a tax not a penalty.
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Re the polls, comment this morning that it’s not so much to discourage voters but discourage contributions…don’t throw good money after bad so to speak.

One thing that cheers me is that I do not know a single person who voted for McCain last time who is changing and voting for Obama. I don’t mean just in my circle of friends, family etc but in the broader world. There is even a website with testimonials about those who changed and not voting for Obama.

Even the microcosm of work, all the females but two (me and the atheist!) voted for Obama last time and they are all voting for Romney this time. They may be bleeding heart liberals but they all have kids and say they cannot in good conscious vote for a man who is clearly giving their children a lower standard of living. This includes our black employees.

More bad economic news yesterday, stagnant growth continues. We hear that it was clear within 24 hours (or if you had three functioning brain cells) that the Libyan attack was planned, coordinated and Islamist in nature. Yet even a few days ago Obama was clinging to the “we don’t really know…” meme.

The only thing they can count on is the percentage of America that’s sleepwalking through life. If you saw the Howard Stern ‘man on the street’ interviews, it’s clear there are a lot of people who are not in touch with reality.

Lisa
 
LisaA said:
Re the polls, comment this morning that it’s not so much to discourage voters but discourage contributions…don’t throw good money after bad so to speak.

One thing that cheers me is that I do not know a single person who voted for McCain last time who is changing and voting for Obama. I don’t mean just in my circle of friends, family etc but in the broader world. There is even a website with testimonials about those who changed and not voting for Obama.

Even the microcosm of work, all the females but two (me and the atheist!) voted for Obama last time and they are all voting for Romney this time. They may be bleeding heart liberals but they all have kids and say they cannot in good conscious vote for a man who is clearly giving their children a lower standard of living. This includes our black employees.

More bad economic news yesterday, stagnant growth continues. We hear that it was clear within 24 hours (or if you had three functioning brain cells) that the Libyan attack was planned, coordinated and Islamist in nature. Yet even a few days ago Obama was clinging to the “we don’t really know…” meme.

The only thing they can count on is the percentage of America that’s sleepwalking through life. If you saw the Howard Stern ‘man on the street’ interviews, it’s clear there are a lot of people who are not in touch with reality.

Lisa
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I disagree, they are in touch with the important things. They know who is giving them free stuff like mobile phones, food stamps more welfare. Yup, they got a grip on the important things, which is why they are voting for OBAMA.
 
stevegravy said:
I disagree, they are in touch with the important things. They know who is giving them free stuff like mobile phones, food stamps more welfare. Yup, they got a grip on the important things, which is why they are voting for OBAMA.
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Absolutely. The lady in the video at the link below is certainly voting for Obama for all the right reasons. :rolleyes:

Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone
youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio
 
SwizzleStick said:
Absolutely. The lady in the video at the link below is certainly voting for Obama for all the right reasons. :rolleyes:

Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone
youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio
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Yes, which is why I feel Carville may have another winning strategy. Fan the flames of jealousy, tinker with class warfare rhetoric. Bet on enough government plantation dwellers combined with liberal useful idiots and this film critic may be able to stay at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue another 4 years. Carville comes off a lot of times like a jerk, but he is one sharp marketeer of politics.
 
stevegravy said:
Yes, which is why I feel Carville may have another winning strategy. Fan the flames of jealousy, tinker with class warfare rhetoric. Bet on enough government plantation dwellers combined with liberal useful idiots and this film critic may be able to stay at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue another 4 years. Carville comes off a lot of times like a jerk, but he is one sharp marketeer of politics.
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I fear you may be correct.
 
oneofmany said:
Romney will protect religious freedom, Obama won’t. That is the most important thing for me.
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Romney will protect religious freedom…on what basis do you come to this conclusion? Does he have a record in that regard?
 
stevegravy said:
Yes, which is why I feel Carville may have another winning strategy. Fan the flames of jealousy, tinker with class warfare rhetoric. Bet on enough government plantation dwellers combined with liberal useful idiots and this film critic may be able to stay at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue another 4 years. Carville comes off a lot of times like a jerk, but he is one sharp marketeer of politics.
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Carville’s fanning the flames of class warfare? How? Did he dismiss half of America as hopeless losers? What is the opposite of jealousy?..I’m pretty sure*** contempt*** fits the bill. :mad:
 
LisaA said:
Re the polls, comment this morning that it’s not so much to discourage voters but discourage contributions…don’t throw good money after bad so to speak.

One thing that cheers me is that I do not know a single person who voted for McCain last time who is changing and voting for Obama. I don’t mean just in my circle of friends, family etc but in the broader world. There is even a website with testimonials about those who changed and not voting for Obama.

Even the microcosm of work, all the females but two (me and the atheist!) voted for Obama last time and they are all voting for Romney this time. They may be bleeding heart liberals but they all have kids and say they cannot in good conscious vote for a man who is clearly giving their children a lower standard of living. This includes our black employees.

More bad economic news yesterday, stagnant growth continues. We hear that it was clear within 24 hours (or if you had three functioning brain cells) that the Libyan attack was planned, coordinated and Islamist in nature. Yet even a few days ago Obama was clinging to the “we don’t really know…” meme.

The only thing they can count on is the percentage of America that’s sleepwalking through life. If you saw the Howard Stern ‘man on the street’ interviews, it’s clear there are a lot of people who are not in touch with reality.

Lisa
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I’m in Northern Virginia, a crucial area with major swing state implications. My wife walked our neighborhood the other day and counted 16 Romney lawn signs versus 3 Obama signs. We are in Fairfax County; you won’t see similar results in Arlington County or the City of Alexandria, however. Keep the faith, Romney supporters!
 
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