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Good answer. So then there is no justification for calling people names based on what they believe, because you and I can’t just walk around determining if their consciences are well-formed or not. Agreed?
We can discern that their actions don’t appear to be in line with church teaching. What
the Lord does with it is something else.

Some people are like my friend, who think they are doing the right thing.

A friend of mine had been a staunch democrat, comes from a very politically involved Democrat family and had never voted for a republican. She and I met before the 2000
election at a school reunion. As we walked to our cars, she shared that she was going
to vote for GW Bush and it would be the first time she did so.* I asked her why and she
told me that since she had started watching EWTN and begun to strengthen her faith
(Catholic) she realized how far off the mark the Democrat party was, not only on the
pro-life issues but on others as well. In her family she said that among them they knew
that the uncle, who had been mayor of a city, was the last one whose values were in
line with the church. All the others since, spoke of how they had to follow the party
line or they would be ostracized, since none had the sway the uncle had had in the
party. It was very difficult for her because she was no longer attending democrat
functions and the family had turned against her even in private life. But she said that
she had never had such peace. She had always thought that her politics and her
faith had not collided until then. She had thought that what she believed was true until
the EWTN experience. It took her over two years of researching, etc.

*She did not vote for him when he was running for governor.
 
obama is a baby killer… so that stands. Life trumps meaning we are not to abort babies.
It’s too bad that you attack me for expressing something that you disagree with. Life trumps all? So allow people to*** live their lives ***and think for themselves without the baseless name-calling.
 
What would his academic records have to do with my investment? :confused: I’m willing to bet that people like Madoff and Rajaratnam were near, if not at, the tops of their respective classes.

Income redistribution? The government, through the IRS, has been doing that since before Obama was born…🤷 It’s called progressive taxation.
Obama never ran a lemonade stand, much less a government entity of any size before becoming President. His miserable track record on the economy and the federal deficit are directly related to his inexperience and left wing politics.
 
Obama never ran a lemonade stand, much less a government entity of any size before becoming President. His miserable track record on the economy and the federal deficit are directly related to his inexperience and left wing politics.
Obama walked up to the other kid’s lemonade stand, said “you didn’t build that” and berated him for making more money than 99% of the kids on the block.
 
Obama walked up to the other kid’s lemonade stand, said “you didn’t build that” and berated him for making more money than 99% of the kids on the block.
Yet, GOP backers tell me that the party isn’t all about money and those who have it. 🤷
 
It is not your place to judge a person’s conscience, it’s really that simple. There is no agreeing or disagreeing over this. My conscience is mine - tend to yours.
You still don’t get it seekerz - one can form their own conscience and act accordingly. But I can very well comment on whether its properly formed or not, in light of how their actions relate to Catholic teaching. What I can’t say is " they are sinning" because I don’t have a window into their hearts. All I can say is they are “misinformed” or “ignorant” and try to drill into them the facts. My posts are a good example of the drilling process. Can’t you imagine someone needing more facts based on how they vote? If a black person voted for a Klu Klux Klan candidate, would you perhaps surmise that they don’t have a properly formed conscience?

Ishii
 
Yet, GOP backers tell me that the party isn’t all about money and those who have it. 🤷
You have it the other way around - liberal Democrats insist the Republican party is ONLY about money and those who have it. It is a straw man caricature that is convenient to use as an excuse to say, sit out an election when truly evil policies (i.e. Obama’s) need to be effectively opposed.

Ishii
 
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