A priest from another diocese recently celebrated a Mass one Sunday, and spoke about his mission. He also gave statistics on Europe and the widespread growth of the Muslim population there (I’m in the U.S.). The father mentioned that although the birth rate has declined in general, Muslim families are growing at a rate disproportional to the rest of the continent. Some people may dispute what you say above, but this one source does give some credence.This thread has really hit a raw nerve…
You may think I am being dramatic, but I need to emphasise the fact that Islam is a serious threat to Western Civilisation!
I live in a country (UK) with a large and vocal Islamic community. The majority of these individuals are generally peaceful, but a lot of them openly declare that they want to destroy Christianity, and by extension, Western democracy.
Christianity in Europe is dying and Islam is growing. Make no mistake about it, Europe will one day be an Islamic continent. Birth rates alone will ensure this, not to mention increased immigration from Islamic nations.
Don’t be like us British. We did nothing to stop the growth of Islam in our country, and now the Muslims are calling for Sharia law. They want to change the UK into an Islamic society and they will do this! Christianity is constantly mocked but everyone is afraid of offending Muslims. It is too late for Great Britain. We are doomed because of political correctness.
Please America, do not allow your country to abandon its Christian heritage. Do not allow Muslims to blatantly disrespect the memory of the innocents who were slain at the hands of radical Islamists.
Please read the links posted in this thread in the World News fora: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=484868To move on to the Ground Zero mosque debate itself, I can see no reason why a mosque should not be permitted on that site. Should we prohibit Sikh temples on the west coast of Ireland, because extremist Sikhs blew up an Indian airliner there? The World Trade Centre terrorists bear no more relation to the reasonable people behind the Cordoba Mosque than the Branch Davidians do to ordinary Christians. To allow the construction of the mosque would show the world (especially Muslims worldwide) that the spirit of religious tolerance the United States was founded upon is not dead.
No one wants to deny anybody their “right to worship God.” As I said before, absent any legal issues, the mosque must be allowed; we are a people of law. But if the construction were somehow stopped, their freedom of religion would not be infringed. They can build anywhere else.People who feel compelled to pray to Mary to deny others their right to worship God should consider what the Archbishop has to say about that.
So when the good people of New York forbade the building of Catholic Churches within the colony of New York, they weren’t denying Catholics their right to worship elsewhere.No one wants to deny anybody their “right to worship God.” As I said before, absent any legal issues, the mosque must be allowed; we are a people of law. But if the construction were somehow stopped, their freedom of religion would not be infringed. They can build anywhere else.
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Banning a religion within an entire jurisdiction is not the same as merely requiring that a religious facility not occupy a particular site.So when the good people of New York forbade the building of Catholic Churches within the colony of New York, they weren’t denying Catholics their right to worship elsewhere.
The United States is no where near abandoning it’s Christian heritage. In fact, the United States is in the process of becoming more Catholic with the influx of immigrants from Mexico, Central and South America. Furthermore, contrary to what commentators say, those immigrants are more conservative and more religious than your average American Catholic. And when they leave the Catholic church, they leave it for more evangelical and fundamentalist sects and not secular atheism (and I am not saying that is a good thing before everyone in the Traditionalist forum jumps on me. I am just stating it as a matter of fact).Don’t be like us British. We did nothing to stop the growth of Islam in our country, and now the Muslims are calling for Sharia law. They want to change the UK into an Islamic society and they will do this! Christianity is constantly mocked but everyone is afraid of offending Muslims. It is too late for Great Britain. We are doomed because of political correctness.
Please America, do not allow your country to abandon its Christian heritage. Do not allow Muslims to blatantly disrespect the memory of the innocents who were slain at the hands of radical Islamists.
The Rosary was given to us as a powerful weapon of peace, it is one of the strongest we have, use it to pray for the conversion of these souls, not for their exclusion.
Did you guys ever hear of the Battle of Lepanto?The misuse of the Blessed Rosary to pray against this mosque is even more appalling. As has been said by others here, the Rosary is not a weapon designed to futher intolerance.
Say what? Expand on that please.There is a well supported theory that it was not Muslims responsible for 9/11;
Please, NO! :nope:Say what? Expand on that please.
Agreed. Let’s not give the thread over to truther hijackers.Please, NO! :nope:
Just google “truther” if want to hear the conspiracy theories.
Since the WTC isn’t there anymore, I don’t think that would make much sense. People’s perception of that area has been so defined by the 9/11 attacks and the aftermath that Ground Zero is what automatically comes to mind. Maybe we’ll stop calling it that when the city builds whatever it’s going to build on that spot.Does anyone else think it is time to stop calling the attack sight “Ground Zero”? That sounds like a military term. After nine years can we go back to calling it The World Trade Center?
As I recall, the term (which I personally try to avoid using) was first applied by a journalist that very day. The intent was that it sound “military” and evoke the A-bomb site, which the area resembled. While I’ve only seen photos of the A-bomb site, I did see the Towers fall from only a few hundred yards away, and can understand the allusion.Does anyone else think it is time to stop calling the attack sight “Ground Zero”? That sounds like a military term. After nine years can we go back to calling it The World Trade Center?
It’s not really “the city” building anything but rather the usual suspects, meaning real-estate developers intent on capitalizing on whatever they can. If I’d had my druthers, most of the area would have been landscaped and dedicated as park-land, encompassing the memorial. New York (a) needs more “green space” and (b) the park setting would, IMO, be a far more fitting resting place for the departed than anything a real-estate developer would be interested in.Since the WTC isn’t there anymore, I don’t think that would make much sense. People’s perception of that area has been so defined by the 9/11 attacks and the aftermath that Ground Zero is what automatically comes to mind. Maybe we’ll stop calling it that when the city builds whatever it’s going to build on that spot.
A memorial park would be a great idea! I’d definitely be on board with that.It’s not really “the city” building anything but rather the usual suspects, meaning real-estate developers intent on capitalizing on whatever they can. If I’d had my druthers, most of the area would have been landscaped and dedicated as park-land, encompassing the memorial. New York (a) needs more “green space” and (b) the park setting would, IMO, be a far more fitting resting place for the departed than anything a real-estate developer would be interested in.