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AmberDale
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Actually Mark, this has happened. There are many kids now who where stockings on their heads. They are little cap things that are made of hosery material and tied in a knot at the top. Looks like hose to me.
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Karin
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** Are you refering to “doo-rags”? **
If you are, then this is nothing new on the East Coast (NJ/NY) area… certain kids wear them all the time
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Chris_Jacobsen
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Are the school officials afraid they might have a gang of Catholics to deal with? Or maybe they are just afraid of crucifixes?
Or, are they afraid of the power of the rosary? After all the rosary converted the Albegensians and defeated the Turks in the battle of Lepanto.
Or, are they afraid of the power of the rosary? After all the rosary converted the Albegensians and defeated the Turks in the battle of Lepanto.
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masondoggy
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I don’t see what is so offensive about a Catholic wearing their rosary around their neck. 
There are legitmate reasons to do so…I don’t necessarily wear one around my neck, but I do like to hang it from my rear view mirror as a reminder in my day to day life that Jesus and Mary are with me whenever I need them. And boy, does it help when things get bad! I can see someone wearing one on their neck for the same reason. If someone is doing it out of respect for the rosary, I see nothing wrong with it.
Now if a non-Catholic is wearing one as a fashion statement or to mock the Faith, then that’s wrong. But that’s their sin and it’s between them and God. I’m not going to go around and try to figure out who’s wearing their rosary for the wrong reasons. I’m not the rosary police!
There are legitmate reasons to do so…I don’t necessarily wear one around my neck, but I do like to hang it from my rear view mirror as a reminder in my day to day life that Jesus and Mary are with me whenever I need them. And boy, does it help when things get bad! I can see someone wearing one on their neck for the same reason. If someone is doing it out of respect for the rosary, I see nothing wrong with it.
Now if a non-Catholic is wearing one as a fashion statement or to mock the Faith, then that’s wrong. But that’s their sin and it’s between them and God. I’m not going to go around and try to figure out who’s wearing their rosary for the wrong reasons. I’m not the rosary police!
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Mr.Bean
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Actually there are rosary rings that people wear if they are in a place that is anti-catholic so they can still pray the rosary and no one will know! The Irish Catholics used them when they were persicuted.
I hope that the rosary is not used as a gang symbol. Bling with crosses on them are bad enough!
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I hope that the rosary is not used as a gang symbol. Bling with crosses on them are bad enough!
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beckers
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forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=33375&highlight=rosary+necklace
A rosary is a sacramental. According to the 1983 Code of Canon Law, sacramentals should be treated reverently:
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Sacred objects, set aside for divine worship by dedication or blessing, are to be treated with reverence. They are not to be made over to secular or inappropriate use, even though they may belong to private persons (canon 1171).
Generally speaking, it would not violate this canon to wear a rosary as a necklace if a person had just cause for doing so. Examples would include keeping the rosary handy for praying throughout the day, preventing loss, or wearing the rosary as a faith statement. Wearing a rosary solely as a fashion accessory, on the other hand, would appear to fall under the canon’s proscription against making over a sacramental into a secular object intended for purely secular use.
A rosary is a sacramental. According to the 1983 Code of Canon Law, sacramentals should be treated reverently:
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Sacred objects, set aside for divine worship by dedication or blessing, are to be treated with reverence. They are not to be made over to secular or inappropriate use, even though they may belong to private persons (canon 1171).
Generally speaking, it would not violate this canon to wear a rosary as a necklace if a person had just cause for doing so. Examples would include keeping the rosary handy for praying throughout the day, preventing loss, or wearing the rosary as a faith statement. Wearing a rosary solely as a fashion accessory, on the other hand, would appear to fall under the canon’s proscription against making over a sacramental into a secular object intended for purely secular use.
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vern_humphrey
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When I was a company commander in Viet Nam, I had strict rules about uniforms – among them was no beads allowed.
I had just about cleaned up the company when the Catholic chaplain flew in, handed out rosaries, and told the troops to wear them around their necks.http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon8.gif
I had just about cleaned up the company when the Catholic chaplain flew in, handed out rosaries, and told the troops to wear them around their necks.http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon8.gif
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Arba_Sicula
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vern humphrey:
Why? I can only think that they may have rattled and the sound could alert an enemy in certain situations - night time ambushes, e.g. Were there other reasons to discourage wearing rosaries?
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MarySon
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Well, I wear a Rosary ring all the time. Sometimes people think it is a regular ring, but once I explain to them what it is they are always surprised by that.
On the other hand, a few years back in Illinois (I think it was in Hillside, IL) a person was issued a ticket for having a Rosary suspended from the rear-view mirror. Apparently it obstracted the view.
On the other hand, a few years back in Illinois (I think it was in Hillside, IL) a person was issued a ticket for having a Rosary suspended from the rear-view mirror. Apparently it obstracted the view.
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kaymart
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I was not given a ticket, but I too was told to “remove them” (Rosary Beads) “Because they obstructed your view”:bowdown2: yeah right
I took them off and when left that town, I put them right back up there
I took them off and when left that town, I put them right back up there
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Maryam
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After reading the article posted by the OP I think that if rosary beads are being used as a sign of being a gang member then the solution is not to punish those who wear the rosary as a sign of their devotion to their faith along with those who are guilty of gang member activity.
The key here is education and if it were up to me I would put up pamphlets around the community or hold a school meeting to educate all the students on what the rosary TRULY represents to bring home the message to those who want to pervert the rosary into something evil.
I am not going to let any gang activity get in the way of my faith and taking away my religious right to wear my rosary as a sign of my faith is not a solution as far as I am concerned… Educating others on our faith is… When you let something like this slide and let the gang members use something like the rosary to promote their perverted gang activity, then you let evil win.
I live in an area full of gang activity and something like this would not deter me from wearing my rosary. Which is not jewelery to me, but a sign of my faith. I wear my rosary around my neck to remind me all the time to keep Our Lord Jesus Christ and his Blessed Mother in my heart. I also wear a rosary bracelet at times that I can pray with in my car or when walking.
God bless all
The key here is education and if it were up to me I would put up pamphlets around the community or hold a school meeting to educate all the students on what the rosary TRULY represents to bring home the message to those who want to pervert the rosary into something evil.
I am not going to let any gang activity get in the way of my faith and taking away my religious right to wear my rosary as a sign of my faith is not a solution as far as I am concerned… Educating others on our faith is… When you let something like this slide and let the gang members use something like the rosary to promote their perverted gang activity, then you let evil win.
I live in an area full of gang activity and something like this would not deter me from wearing my rosary. Which is not jewelery to me, but a sign of my faith. I wear my rosary around my neck to remind me all the time to keep Our Lord Jesus Christ and his Blessed Mother in my heart. I also wear a rosary bracelet at times that I can pray with in my car or when walking.
God bless all
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smartblkchick
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But it could get you killed. As an adult, that’s a choice you can make. But school officials have a reponsibility to do what they can to keep students safe.
BTW… The school is not preventing the students from bringing the rosary beads to school. The are simply requiring them to wear the beads tucked under their shirts or put away. This IMHO is a reasonable compromise short of an outright ban.
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Maryam
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To put their rosaries under their shirts is fine… but, if it went as far as telling the students to remove them, then I think this is where educating people about the Rosary would come into play.
I don’t see the harm in having a parent/student meeting in order to educate others on the Rosary. This would make it not “cool” to use the Rosary as a symbol to those already in gangs in the school system if they knew what the Rosary truly represents.
If I had kids I would not let the Rosary become a symbol of violence and death and as my duty in being a Catholic parent would want to do something to show the truth about the Rosary.
If the gang members want to use something as a symbol for being a member, let them use something else.
Many will say what I speak is foolish, but, I have lived too many years in a gang environment and am not phased by them… Many enter gangs for reasons ranging from being a product of broken homes and seeking some kind of “substitute family”, to getting fast money or peer pressure.
If you show how the Rosary stands for LIFE… it will bring light into the darkness.I guess in my living with gangs I have lost alot of my fear of them…
Anyway, it may seem what I say is silly… but, when you let someone turn something that represents LIFE into death it will only go downhill further from there.
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batteddy
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outlawing gang symbols won’t stop the gangs. It will just drive them underground. Better to know who they are so we can keep an eye on them.
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Wondering_Waif
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On that one, I met a beautiful Asian girl and she was wearing a small gold swastika, it horrified me because of my association of the swastika with evil and treachery.
Then I found out that the Asians have a symbol that looks a lot like the swastika that stands for good luck.
Rosary beads are so precious to Catholics, I don’t like the idea of folks using them as a gang symbol, Catholics take a lot of abuse, but when you start messing with their Mother they take umbrage and fight back, probably not the best way to handle things but that’s where I’m at right now.
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Aeyrim
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I have to disagre with most of you about whether or not it’s OK to wear a Rosary. I once asked a very devout priest about it and he told me that in America it’s typically not the custom to wear Rosaies but that in some other places around the world it is not uncommon – that you can wear the Rosary for PROTECTION. It’s not a discrace, it’s a sacramental. I pray the Rosary daily, but I WEAR a Rosary at alll times. Sorry if that’s disgraceful to some, but I think it helps me.
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jc-servant
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I think that a lot of this is discussion is about cultural differences. It appears that the particular gang members in question were Latino and therefore they probably picked up wearing the rosary from their families even if these particular kids are not really devout. Maybe some of their mothers originally sent them out this way trying to spark conversion from gang life back to the church? I definitely think the school is wrong to ban rosaries if the kids want to wear them inside their clothing.
In Texas I see many people from Mexico who wear their rosary around their neck. There are many extremely devout people in my diocese from Mexico who do this and I would not presume to tell them to stop wearing their rosary. I have not seen where it violates any rules in the church. Who knows how it started? Maybe they worked outside and wanted their rosary but had no where safe to keep it? I’m upset with myself because I lost my crucifix and medals after taking them off for swim class. They might just have remained safer around my neck than in my bag. Just because we have not traditionally done this practice with the rosary does not automatically make it wrong.
I do have a rosary bracelet and a rosary necklace that were specifically made to be worn like another poster’s rosary ring. I have given them to a number of people as gifts also. I like that people ask about them because they are beautiful and I then get an opening for evangelization. I also like having a rosary handy at all times. If I had a child in the school in the article then I guess I might buy them a rosary bracelet if wearing something around their neck might accidentally get them shot, but it would be a shame to let a gang appropriate a sacramental as one of their symbols.
In Texas I see many people from Mexico who wear their rosary around their neck. There are many extremely devout people in my diocese from Mexico who do this and I would not presume to tell them to stop wearing their rosary. I have not seen where it violates any rules in the church. Who knows how it started? Maybe they worked outside and wanted their rosary but had no where safe to keep it? I’m upset with myself because I lost my crucifix and medals after taking them off for swim class. They might just have remained safer around my neck than in my bag. Just because we have not traditionally done this practice with the rosary does not automatically make it wrong.
I do have a rosary bracelet and a rosary necklace that were specifically made to be worn like another poster’s rosary ring. I have given them to a number of people as gifts also. I like that people ask about them because they are beautiful and I then get an opening for evangelization. I also like having a rosary handy at all times. If I had a child in the school in the article then I guess I might buy them a rosary bracelet if wearing something around their neck might accidentally get them shot, but it would be a shame to let a gang appropriate a sacramental as one of their symbols.
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