ROSARY: Who is "our life, our sweetness and our hope?"

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In the opening line of Hail holy Queen, we praise *someone *for being “our life, our sweetness and our hope.” Who is it? Jesus or Mary?

At first glance I thought that it was Mary since the prayer is addressed to her, but now that I’m getting accustomed to the syntax of Catholic prayer, I’m starting to wonder… is it Jesus?

It would be Mary if the opening line was a list of her attributes.
Hail holy Queen, mother of mercy, (Mary you are also) our life, our sweetness and our hope.

But it would mean Jesus if the phrase described what a fine child Mary was the mother of.
Hail holy Queen, mother of (Jesus, who is) our life, our sweetness and our hope.

So, in this prayer, who is our life, sweetness and hope: Mary or Jesus?

Thanks in advance!
 
I’ve seen several English translations that say ‘Hail Holy Queen, mother of mercy, HAIL our life our sweetness and our hope…’ which clearly means it refers to Mary.

In Latin it’s ‘Salve (Hail) Regina, mater misericordiae, vita, dulcedo et spes nostra, SALVE (hail)’. So again the ‘hail’ is repeated twice, clearly referring to Mary.
 
Since Mary gave us Jesus
you could say it does refer to Him.
but there needs to be an understanding of Mary’s role in redemption.
I usually pray it to mean Mary, but sometimes Christ.
I don’t think either of them would be offended.

St. Alphonsus Ligouri’s book “The Glories of Mary” comes recommended for this topic. He deals with the Hail Holy Queen in it, line by line. Great book for understanding our Blessed Lady!

God Bless, Mary Keep,
Mordocai

p.s. i recommend the version published by Ligouri Press (or however its spelled lol)
 
Sweetness I think I understand.
Hope - as in the Assumption?
Life - Please help me here, I don’t understand this one.
 
It might be used in the same way as the colloquial phrase of affection “you are my life” (may be said to a close friend but more often a spouse or boyfriend/girlfriend). Not sure though, I could be way off.
 
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It would be Mary if the opening line was a list of her attributes.
Hail holy Queen, mother of mercy, (Mary you are also) our life, our sweetness and our hope.
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I would think this was all about Mary. A list of her attributes. At least that is the way it makes sense to me. :gopray2:
 
“Hail Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy our Life, our Sweetness and our Hope” It’s definitely referring to Mary.
 
Since Mary gave us Jesus
you could say it does refer to Him.
but there needs to be an understanding of Mary’s role in redemption.
I usually pray it to mean Mary, but sometimes Christ.
I don’t think either of them would be offended.
So unanimously it’s about Mary, but it could also be about Jesus too. I’m glad I asked. Thanks everyone for your help.
 
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.
Mary is our life, our sweetness and our hope.

Jesus in Mary share in the Divine Life, which is Sanctifying Grace. Mary will lead you to her Son.

God Bless!
 
Sometimes its just so fun to pray the Hail Holy Queen when a Protestant objects to the Hail Mary 😛

But yep it refers to the Blessed Virgin Mary.
 
One of my favourite prayers!

Mother of Mercy. That Mercy = Jesus = our life our sweetness and our hope.

If Mary is our hope then we have no need of the resurrection.

Reading this makes me wonder. Do we actually know what we are saying when we are saying our prayers?
 
I will second the recommendation for Ligouri’s *Glories of Mary. *It goes through the Hail Holy Queen line-by-line with explanation.

Scott
 
This is a very interesting topic…

Hail Holy Queen, mother of mercy, our life, our sweetness, and our hope!

Is she the mother of mercy, mother of our life, mother of our sweetness and mother of our hope?
 
One of my favourite prayers!

Mother of Mercy. That Mercy = Jesus = our life our sweetness and our hope.

If Mary is our hope then we have no need of the resurrection.

Reading this makes me wonder. Do we actually know what we are saying when we are saying our prayers?
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Exactly what Fergal said… Ever since I listened to the Catholic/Protestant debate about Mary between Dr. Walter Martin (The Bible Answer Man, Evangelical Protestant) and Fr. Dr. Mitch Pacwa (Jesuit priest and renowned Catholic Apologist) I came away with some real nagging questions here because at one point Dr. Martin (who I respect and feel genuinely loved Christ, God rest his soul) seemingly pinned down Fr. Pacwa on this VERY SAME topic. To paraphrase Dr. Martin:

“I’m sorry, but Mary is not our life, our sweetness, and our hope-- JESUS is our life, our sweetness, and our hope”

Fr. Pacwa really didnt have a comeback for this, perhaps some of you have heard or perhaps still have the debate. I have to wonder if he believes the [life, sweetness, hope] to mean Mary. To be honest, I think Dr. Martin is 100% correct. In reading the “Hail Holy Queen” again, I have to agree with Fergal above-- it makes logical sense to understand it as mother-- of mercy (Jesus), our life (Jesus), our sweetness (Jesus), and our hope (Jesus). However, I must admit that when I was first introduced to and prayed the prayer, I took it to mean Mary-- and I’m afraid most Catholics who pray the rosary regularly do too. Being honest with myself, I simply can’t say that-- it either refers to Jesus or I must refrain from the prayer henceforth.

I would like to hear from a Bishop or another apologist on this, as it really bothers me…
 
Mary is the New Eve…through which Jesus came. She was without sin from the first moment of her conception. She is God’s Masterpiece, and our Mother in the order of grace. She was a great Woman of faith and her will is one with Jesus.

We know that Jesus is God, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, and that everything Mary has comes from the Lord.

I believe that Jesus is pleased when we honor her with those words.
 
Fr. Vincent Serpa:
Hi,

We are dealing here with hyperbole. Hyperbole is a rhetorical device in which statements are exaggerated. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally. We use it all the time, for example: “I’m so hungry I could eat a horse.” Or “It took forever for me to get here,” Or “Your name is music to my ears,” Or “Hail holy Queen, our life, our sweetness and our hope.” The latter just means that she is so special to us because God has made her so. That’s all.

Fr. Vincent Serpa, O.P.
The above is the explanation I got yesterday in the “Ask an Apologist” section. So in a nutshell, Fr. Serpa here is saying it does refer to Mary, but its an exaggeration, not to be taken literally, i.e. ITS NOT TRUE. Ok then-- when is the memo explaining this supposed to go out to everyone who prays the Rosary?? Obviously only a few people here on this thread (including myself) realized that it is NOT true, and pointed out the err in saying/interpreting it that way. The rest basically just posted a few brief words (seemingly smugly) proclaiming that it does refer to Mary, without offering up anything about knowing it to be “untrue” (because they didn’t know, or simply were not being honest with themselves/us). This is disturbing if even many knowledgeable Catholics don’t consider the implications of what they are saying? If we are charged by Jesus to not pray “empty or babbling” prayers, why even say something deep down we hold to not be true??

Are we to blindly accept it without question (and try to convince others to do the same) simply because we are Catholic? I think not-- if one looks at the history of the Church and the Fathers, thats NOT what they did-- hundreds of years of debate and dialogue under the guidance of the Holy Spirit yielded the doctrines we hold today.

This is 100% not an attack on Mary or her honor WHATSOEVER-- its an attack on spiritual ignorance. Mary absolutely is our Mother and is to be honored and venerated. She is the Mother of our mercy, life, sweetness, and hope (Christ). She obviously is Queen of All Saints, and surely her prayers for us carry a special significance. In any case, she should UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ever be elevated to Christs level, be it by true belief, hyperbole, exaggeration, or empty utterings.

I propose a simple, single word change to the Hail Holy Queen to better convey the true meaning, and not an “exaggeration”, which does not in any way take from the honor due to Mary, yet avoids a potentially damaging understanding of Mary’s role. –

…mother of our mercy, our life, our sweetness, and our hope…

No matter how I try to justify it, I can’t in good conscience continue to use the traditional wording. I suggest everyone who prays the rosary really take a moment and seriously consider this…
 
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