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fisherman_carl
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Ultimately God knows our heart and our intentions. That is the most important thing. If you are unsure pray and ask God to show you how to pray.
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Ryoji
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If she is without sin, then wouldn’t be Luke 1:46-47 a complete nonsense?
- 46 And Mary said:
“My soul glorifies the Lord
47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, *
And the first parts of Hail Holy Queen
Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy,
our life, our sweetness and our hope.
Isn’t that a direct contradiction to John 14:6?
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Truly Mary was a blessed person for she followed God’s will but so was Abraham, so was Noah, Joseph, Job, David and all “good” followers of the Lord.
All of those characters have sinned one way or another… why? Because they were just men… flesh and bone, that inherited the sin of Adam and Eve.
Romans 3:23 says:
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
All as in you, me, your father, my father, your mother, my mother, Pope Benedict XVI, Pope John Paul II, Mary, Abraham, Noah, Joseph, Job, David, etc.
Thank y’all have a nice day =)
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cecilia97
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Amen…I think we, being human and liking things neat and well-defined, tend to draw a false dichotomy between Mary vs Jesus. Jesus came to us through Mary, His creation. The two are very difficult to separate. I’m not deifying the Blessed Mother here, I’m just pointing out that you can’t really separate an artist from his artwork.
David says in the psalms that the glories of God’s creation lead us to worship Him.
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Canto
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Person A falls into a muddy pit. I pull them out. I have saved them.
Person B is about to fall into a muddy pit, but I grab them before they fall in. They may not have fallen in, but I have still saved them.
I love choclate more than anything in the whole universe!
More than God???Mary gave birth to our life, sweetness and hope and thus via her co-operation, in being the mother of God made man, can be these things with Jesus. (hope that makes sense)
1 Thes 2:19 For what is **our hope **or joy or crown of glory? Are not you, in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
1 Tim 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the commandment of God our Saviour and Christ Jesus our hope: (DRV)
But only Mary was addressed as Kecharitomene (Luke 1:28). Kecharitomene has the root word charitoo which means to grace. The entire word show that she was graced (by God) sometime in the past (before the visit of the Angel). Logic and tradition states that this was her conception. Thus never was Mary without God’s grace, and with grace sin will have no dominion over us.
When all Jerusalem went out to hear Jesus speak, did every single person bar none go out, or were some working, some at home, some not interested?
All (pas) does not mean every single itty bitty person.
Elsewhere St Paul says that many have sinned. All or many? St Paul can’t be contradicting himslef.
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Eldee
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Jeanne_S
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Hail Holy Queen,MOTHER of Mercy,Our life our sweetness and our hope…Jesus Christ,she is His Mother… He is Our mercy, our life ,sweetness and hope…
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AnneElizabeth
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Thank you so much for clearing that up for me. I have always wondered this myself and this puts me at ease.
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Jeanne_S
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Our Blessed Mother has many titles,think of this title: Seat of Wisdom…She held Christ on her lap…
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Eldee
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It seems what the writer of this prayer meant to say is: The bearer of our Life, Sweetness, and Hope…that is Jesus of Nazareth… let us keep our focus on Him, as the crux of or worship, praise and thanksgiving, while venerating Mary with the rosary prayer.
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Robert_Sock
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In Judaism, God has both masculine and feminine attributes. I personally believe that Mary is somehow a metaphor for the feminine qualities of God.
Mary is said to be a cult within the Church which I believe is not open to everyone. To those of us devoted to the Rosary, Mary is our life, sweetness, and hope!
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PluniaZ
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The above post has the correct answer to the thread. Mary is our life, our sweetness and our hope.OK, I went and did the grammatical research myself. If a real Latin grammarian comes along, he or she should please correct this as needed.
In Latin, the first two lines of the Salve Regina are:
Salve, Regina, mater misericordiae;
vita, dulcedo et spes nostra, salve.
The nouns “regina” and “mater” in the first line are in the vocative case, meaning regina (queen) and mater (mother) are words for the person being addressed. “Misericordiae” is in the genitive case, indicating possession. It modifies mater, so the person being addressed in the first line is both queen and “mercy’s mother” or “mother of mercy.”
The question being asked here is whether the nouns vita (life), dulcedo (sweetness, delightfulness), and spes (hope) refer to the person being addressed (already known as regina and mater) or if they are being used the same way misericordiae is used, to modify mother (e.g. “life’s mother, sweetness’ mother, hope’s mother”).
And the answer is: they’re in the vocative case, not the genitive. Vita is the person being addressed, the same person previously called regina and mater.
So it is rightly translated to mean “Hail, queen, mercy’s mother; life, sweetness, and hope, hail!” rather than “Hail, queen, mercy’s mother, life’s mother, sweetness’ mother, and hope’s mother, hail!”
In the Salve Regina’s opening lines, Mary is the “life” being addressed.
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fisherman_carl
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This answer is good food for thought. It seems to me that this question is less about grammar and more about the question can Mary be our hope, our life and our sweetness. Because it doesn’t matter what the grammar is if you cannot accept that Mary is these things. But, the answer above gets me thinking about it Scripturally. Can Mary be seen in Scripture as our hope? We look back at the events of Christianity from our perspective 2000 years later. However, imagine if you were in pre Messianic times. Your hope would be for the Messiah to come like Simeon who was promised to see the Christ. They lived in hope of the Messiah coming. There was so much anticipation of the Messiah that there was even many false Christ’s appearing. Now what was a great symbol of that hope for them? The prophecy in Isaiah 42 that a Virgin would be with child. Mary is a symbol of that hope since she is that Virgin with child which the gospel of Luke specifically says. She represents the culmination of the hope of Israel for that purpose of God to be fulfilled in a most supernatural way in her womb and in the person of Jesus. Thus, Mary has a most practical and pivotal role to play in that hope for the Messiah actually coming to fruition. So here Mary represents a real hope of bringing us Jesus the Messiah.Great posts, Ryan and Aspirant.
This Marian title, “Mother of Mercy, our life, our sweetness and our hope,” reflects her role as Mediatrix of All Graces, which is the same as her role as Ark of the New Covenant. In truth, as many have pointed out here, all of this can be explained simply by looking at the Annunciation. She bore Jesus, Who is our Mercy, Life, Sweetness and Hope. Consequently she is the Mother of all these.
At the same time, as she is also Mother of the Church, the Body of Christ, she is our life quite literally. Spiritual life came to us through her, for all the graces of Christ’s Passion run through the riverbed of Mary’s sufferings at the foot of the Cross. She is the Mother of Christ Incarnate, and hence she is the Mother of Christ’s Body as well, because Christ and His Body are one. Hence our life quite literally came from her in the beginning and continues to come from her as we experience the life of God through her today.
St. Louis de Montfort covers all of this quite brilliantly in “True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin.”
She is our life because Life came from her and continues to come from her throughout our lives in Christ on Earth and in Heaven. His whole Incarnate self came from her womb on Earth and His whole Body comes from her today as well.
She is also perfectly united with Life, with whom she was perfectly physically united with on Earth when He was in her womb, and as she was All-Holy, she was also always perfectly spiritually united with Him. The union between the Immaculate and Sacred Hearts was beyond human description and knowledge in its splendor and depth even on Earth, but now that the two are in Heaven, as Mary’s Assumption and Coronation have glorified her, this union has utterly transcended us. It is impossible to imagine the brilliance of the union between Jesus’ and Mary’s Hearts.
Mary is wholly submissive to her Son and He is wholly submissive to her, because they are perfectly united in heart, mind, soul and strength. As the Old Testament rulers of Judah portrayed, the Queen Mother is at the right hand of the King and the King bows to the Queen Mother.
God gave Israel all the graces He gave it through the Ark of the Covenant. He gives the New Israel all the graces He gives it through the Ark of the New Covenant. These graces include our mercy, life, sweetness and hope. So she is truly their mother and God their Father, since these graces, and all other graces, came to us through Mary and from Mary, the product of her unity with God. The Medieval theologians used the references to Wisdom to relate to Mary. They believed Sirach 24 refers to her as one true meaning when it says:
This mystery of the Ark of the New Covenant is truly a divine and holy mystery. We do well always to praise her from whom our Life, Jesus Christ, Who irreplaceably is our one Redemption, Rock and Salvation, comes to all the world.
Of course there is more we could say about her role as the Queen Mother of the Davidic Kingdom. But it is important to note that Mary is part of that hope for the Messiah, she is forever inscribed tirelessly as the Virgin with child who brings the Messiah to the world. Of course it is a hope rooted not in mere flesh and blood but in the promise and power of God to fulfill his promises.
In Isaiah 42 God promises a sign as high as the heavens and then says a Virgin would be with child. If that were any normal natural birth how would that be much of a sign? But here God promised an enormous sign. Mary with child is that sign in fruition because it wasn’t a natural thing, but a supernatural one. An impossible child, not born of mere flesh, but of the Holy Spirit.
It is important to note that Mary is not our hope (or life or sweetness) in isolation, but she is part of that hope that brings us Christ. So it is no wonder that people can be confused as to who is our hope. The truth is that they both are.
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