Roy Moore's Accuser Count is now up to 9

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Jig_Saw said:
Yes, you never answered my question: what’s the cutoff age for it to be pedophilia? I would think 14 and you’re there, but apparently not. What does it have to be?
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The definition is specific to pre and post puberty, which varies by sex and by individual.
Why do you ask question where you already know the answer?
 
Theo520 said:
The definition is specific to pre and post puberty, which varies by sex and by individual.

Why do you ask question where you already know the answer?
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So, we need to know if the 14 year old that Moore had try to sexually assault had puberty yet before we can be sure he’s not a pedophile?
 
Jig_Saw said:
Yes, you never answered my question: what’s the cutoff age for it to be pedophilia? I would think 14 and you’re there, but apparently not. What does it have to be?
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He mayl not have an answer for that you may accept. WHY?

Pedophilia:
Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children
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prepubescent
Being prepubescent is not the same thing as being preadolescent. Instead, prepubescent (and sometimes child) is a term for boys and girls who have not developed secondary sex characteristics
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Secondary sex characteristic
In humans, visible secondary sex characteristics include pubic hair, enlarged breasts and widened hips of females, and facial hair and Adam’s apple on males.
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These characteristics more often then not align with Puberty.
For boys it can begin as early as 10 to late as 19.
For girls it can be as early as 9 and late as 17.

So for the generalization of Pedophilia it can be used for any person under age of 20. That would be the Conservative approach if one wants to err on the side of caution.

Roy Moore primarily targeted those under the age of 20. Yes or Yes?
 
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JoshuaIsLord said:
So for the generalization of Pedophilia it can be used for any person under age of 20. That would be the Conservative approach if one wants to err on the side of caution.

Roy Moore primarily targeted those under the age of 20. Yes or Yes?
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So, if I say that Roy Moore is a pedophile because he sexually attacked children, you are good with that?
 
Jig_Saw said:
So, we need to know if the 14 year old that Moore had try to sexually assault had puberty yet before we can be sure he’s not a pedophile?
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We can only comment with the information we have. All indications are that she was an adolescent, not a child. Plus none of the other allegations against Moore involved prepubescent children.
 
Please consider being a bit more charitable. Cleverly masking your words to avoid being flagged is not very clever at all. I quoted just this post, but many of your posts demonstrate this same attitude as well. I feel everyone is being civil, so let’s keep it civil. Then this conversation can continue and become more productive in the long run.

I’m sorry if you feel like this is a personal attack; I just want to keep everything calm. Too often do arguments become overly heated in the world news section.
 
I find it disingenuous, or uncharitable when people misapply labels to create a stronger emotional effect. Since they avoid correction, I believe it is intentional.

I won’t defend what the creep did, just ask that we accurately describe it.
 
This is not just a “he said - she said” situation. For Roy Moore it’s a “he said - she said - she said - she said - she said - she said - she said - she said - she said - she said” situation. And Donald Trump has even more accusers:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...uct-the-complete-list/?utm_term=.ad7b29d5a265

The people supporting Moore and Trump either believe that ALL of the accusers are lying, or they are excusing their repugnant behavior because they agree with them politically. Either reason is untenable.
 
Rhonda Ledbetter’s comments are reported on The Hill and many other places, so it’s not just reported on in Alabama
 
Out of curiosity, do you believe the women who alleged that they had sexual encounters with President Bill Clinton that were not consensual?


I don’t know all the ins and outs of the allegations against Moore and Trump, but for many people it doesn’t necessarily have to be the case that they believe all the accusers lie or that the accused is definitively innocent, but that there just simply isn’t solid enough proof to make a clear determination either way. These cases have not been adjudicated, they have not been tested in court.
 
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_Abyssinia said:
These cases have not been adjudicated, they have not been tested in court.
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They don’t have to. Being a Senator is a privilege.

Being a Priest at a Parish is a privilege.

In our Diocese, all it takes is having Parents accusing a Priest of being alone with a child under the age of 19 and wham bam, he gets yanked from his duties and remains yanked until the investigation is completed.
 
Yes, “until the investigation is completed “. There is an actual investigation that place. Unless I’m mistaken, but unlike that, I don’t think there is any kind of criminal or other type of investigation regarding the allegations against Roy Moore or Donald Trump, apart from what is being thrown back and forth in the media, and he said, she said
 
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Theo520 said:
So you think because others make the same mistake, it should be ignored?
Stop rationalizing and accept the correction.
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The English language is composed of what you might label as “mistakes” of these types.
Shea:
Almost all words change their meanings. This is one of the aspects of language that is firmly established. It ought to be evident to all of us that words will take on new meanings as we generally find it confusing to read writing that is more than a few hundred years old. Many of the words carried a different significance than we give to them today…"
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In modern times people tend not to use the word Egregious to mean “remarkably good” or “awful” to express positive attributes. “Girl” is no longer used to indicate a young person irrespective of their sex. And if I use the phrase “gay guy” the first thing that comes to your mind probably is not a very happy Guy Fawkes. The language that you and I speak and write with is derived from previous forms. Those forms continue to evolve.

Changes in language is it’s own field of study and it has it’s own typology. Narrowing, widening, metonymy, synecdoche, meiosis, degeneration,and elevation are all terms for types of semantic changes that occur.
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Clinton: Well, I would say that everyone should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence.
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The 9 accusers will all have to be disbelieved?
 
Its interesting that Hillary Clinton said that regarding believing the accusers automatically, because what does she think then of the allegations from Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick and Paula Jones, regarding Hillary’s husband, President Bill Clinton? Should all three of those accusers against her husband automatically be believed?
 
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_Abyssinia said:
Its interesting that Hillary Clinton said that, because what does she think then of the allegations from Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick and Paula Jones against her husband?
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At this point, who cares what Hilary thinks? She is not running for office any more. This thread is not about her. It is about Roy Moore. This thread is not even about Trump.

If you really want to know what Hilary thinks, try contacting her and asking her.

If anything Juanita Broaddrick tweet should cause one to consider Moore’s accusers more.
 
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I will note that Clinton’s settlement with Jones no more indicates guilt than does Trumps settlement in “Trump University Lawsuit”
 
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