Roy Moore's Accuser Count is now up to 9

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JoshuaIsLord said:
I don’t agree with forcing anybody’s faith on the general public,
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So it would be okay with you to repeal laws againsturder, rape, and theft? After all, those laws generally come from the judeo-Christian faith.
JoshuaIsLord said:
Rape, sexual Assault are intrinsic evil in my eyes. It has nothing what so ever to do with my Faith.

It is morally disgusting for a person in his 30s to pursue teenagers. Again, It has nothing what so ever to do with my Faith
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If they are intrinsic evil, then you ARE looking at them through your faith, so why are you not then “forcing” others to abide by your beliefs through laws prohibiting murder and rape.

There are some religions (mohammedist) who teach it’s perfectly fine for adult men to “pursue teenagers”.
Would you impose your religious test (deeming it “intrinsic evil”) to their religious beliefs?

If so…why would you not impose the same thing to abortion?
 
MonteRCMS said:
Allegations have already been disproven. Signatures turned out to be both false [not real facsimilies] and forgeries.

How many false allegations are you willing to make?

Where do YOU draw the line between gossip and malicious falsehoods?
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You clearly don’t know what you are talking about, as you are misidentifying Moore’s victims and claiming as fact (signatures have been falsified) was hasn’t been proven, so I guess I’ll ask you:

How many falsehoods will you continue to make (and at this point, you cannot claim ignorance because many people have tried to correct you)?

When will you stop with the malicious falsehoods?
 
MonteRCMS said:
The allegations from the 14-year old girl have been disproven. She was not there and neither was he. And her description of the restaurant differs substantially from the descriptions provided by others.

The various signatures proffered turn out to have been written by a clerk and initialed by the clerk [a.d.].
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Remember what a wise man once said:
MonteRCMS said:
Fake news , false news, repeated often enough does not equal truth.
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Do any of you feel like you’re posting the same thing over and over again? 😜 I feel like I’m reading the same thing over and over again. 😄

Has anyone changed their opinion as a result of the discussion on this thread? Just curious.
 
Joe_5859 said:
Do any of you feel like you’re posting the same thing over and over again? 😜 I feel like I’m reading the same thing over and over again. 😄

Has anyone changed their opinion as a result of the discussion on this thread? Just curious.
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Do you feel like this thread has devolved into a lynch mob mentality? People are judged guilty without the presumption of innocence. Christians delighting in gossip and people’s problems. Conservatives are all evil Nazi pedophile lovers? Sometimes I miss Robert Bay.
 
Not voting for Moore isn’t anything close to a lynching.

I think it’s a scandal to the prolife cause to have it tainted by credible allegations.

Leigh Corfman had told many people about what happened over the course of the years.
 
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qui_est_ce said:
Do you feel like this thread has devolved into a lynch mob mentality? People are judged guilty without the presumption of innocence. Christians delighting in gossip and people’s problems. Conservatives are all evil Nazi pedophile lovers? Sometimes I miss Robert Bay.
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Honestly, I see a lot of people who are completely utterly convinced of something they ultimately cannot really know. None of us can say with absolute certainty that Moore is guilty. Likewise, none of us can say with absolute certainty that his accusers are lying.

I’d like to see more people conceding that the “other side” has a point. If someone sincerely thinks Moore is innocent and/or admits they cannot really know one way or the other, they shouldn’t be painted as clamoring to put a pedophile in the Senate. They don’t agree that he is a pedophile. Likewise, if someone sincerely thinks Moore is guilty, they shouldn’t be painted as being big government, pro-abortion leftists for pointing out that such actions are not something we should tolerate among our elected officials.

I’m glad I don’t live in Alabama and so I can get away with not having to decide.
 
F_Marturana said:
Not voting for Moore isn’t anything close to a lynching.
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There seems to be a willful confusion of a legal process (a criminal investigation and trial or a civil trial) and the judgment of a voter as to whether the candidate is suitable for the public office they seek.

Do I think Roy Moore should be hauled into court? Nope. The statute of limitations has passed. Decades have passed. It would be a very hard case, even if it was prosecutable, and I’d wager many DAs would shy away from charges.

Do I think Roy Moore belongs in the Senate? Nope. Nine women have openly come forward to accuse him. He may not guilty in the criminal sense of the word, but when nine people publicly accuse someone of something, and other witnesses come forward to corroborate aspects of his behavior (he was kept out of a mall and away from cheerleaders), then if I were voter in Alabama, I’d feel the balance of probabilities are that this is a man whose moral character is highly questionable.

Then we can start dealing with his actions as an Alabama Supreme Court justice, and his flagrant violation of the Supremacy Clause. Frankly, from the position of being a lawmaker in a constitutional republic, that may be the greater failing of Roy Moore.
 
Let’s invoke a civil law concept. On the balance of probabilities, do you feel Roy Moore has been accurately accused?
 
I haven’t looked extensively at the details, so I wouldn’t bet the farm on my opinion. If I had to decide one way or the other, I’d say it doesn’t look good for Moore. I’d think it would be best for him to recuse himself as this is definitely a distraction (at best). But I can see why he wouldn’t because it would only look like an admission of guilt.

I also have sympathy for the conservative voters of Alabama who are basically in the same boat all of us were in last year choosing between the (purported) conservative with sexual abuse allegations pending or the liberal candidate who stands for a great many things that run contrary to their conservative beliefs. I didn’t like being in that position last year, so I can imagine how I’d feel if I lived in Alabama.

So I can sort of understand why people want to put the best possible face on it because they feel they have no other candidate to go to. But I don’t think we do conservative principles (or Christianity) any favors by failing to insist that sexual predation is wrong. I don’t think we even necessarily have to throw someone like Moore under the bus to do that. Simply admit that—if he is guilty—he should not be in office. Full stop. Perhaps we may argue that we think he is innocent or that he deserves the presumption of innocence. I can hear someone out if that’s what they want to assert. But I would hope we can at least all agree that we don’t want people like that in office. Now, I know nothing about who Moore is running against, and it could well be that his opponent is also someone we don’t want in office. In that case, it is certainly quite the dilemma. And I wouldn’t necessarily lambast someone for their holding their nose and voting for the one they thought was least bad. But it never hurts to clarify that you are at least holding your nose while voting for them rather than voting for them enthusiastically.

Probably too long of an answer to your question. 😜
 
The problem that Moore represents for the Republicans, and it grows now as Conyers and Franken leave, is that it means they lose the moral high ground argument. Great hay has been made (not entirely without justification) about Bill Clinton’s alleged and confirmed actions, but now that Moore has received both the President’s and the GOP’s seals of approval, they can never really use that argument again. They have given their support to a man who has been openly accused by nine women of sexual activities with them while they’re teenagers, and even if Moore loses, that’s a stain on the Republicans.
 
You’re not wrong about that. I think the GOP already lost much of the moral high ground when Trump became their candidate. This is a nail in the coffin, though.
 
niceatheist said:
Let’s invoke a civil law concept. On the balance of probabilities, do you feel Roy Moore has been accurately accused?
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All you are doing here is inviting speculation, which is gossip. Listen to what Pope Francis says about gossip.
 
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qui_est_ce said:
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niceatheist:
Let’s invoke a civil law concept. On the balance of probabilities, do you feel Roy Moore has been accurately accused?
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All you are doing here is inviting speculation, which is gossip. Listen to what Pope Francis says about gossip.
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When nine people openly accuse someone of something, it ain’t gossip any more.
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I’m sorry I engaged.
 
Can be justified if public safety is involved.

Also if you are looking for patterns. Should be part of any vetting process.
 
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