Rubio Endorses Romney

[CMatt25]

While I think Allen West makes a good congressman and would be a better vice president than Biden, I think politically speaking he would be a bad choice - worse than Palin. Atleast Palin had two years of running a state. West has only been a congressman for less than two years. The Democrats and media would successfully portray him as lacking gravitas and experience to be president. The question would be: “Do we really want an untested man to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?” Whether I or anyone else agrees or disagrees that he is fit to be VP, the reality is that they could successfully make it an issue during the election. It would be one more way for Obama to deflect criticism from his dismal failure as president. Allen West for Vice president? No way - not this time. Maybe down the road he might be a better candidate.

Ishii

Right Ishii and Rubio has been a Senator for less than 2 yrs too. Don’t you guys have anyone like Biden with far more experience to be VP, a heartbeat away from the Presidency?

Btw a most blessed Happy Easter to you and to all here, conservatves, moderates, and liberals alike.

 

[CMatt25]

Just as there were people that were more likely to vote for McCain (and more enthusiastic) after Palin joined the ticket.

Goes back on his word? Has Rubio made a solemn promise that if asked he will absolutely say no? Politicians have a long history of denying any interest in the vice presidency, only to have a “change of heart” when the nominee asks them to be vice president. You have a standard for Rubio so that you can accuse him of “going back on his word” if he accepts the vice presidential nomination. In doing so you seem to have andandoned any pretense of objectivity that you might have had.

The problem Ishii is Rubio has said no so many times I’ve lost count. Here’s the latest unless he’s said no again since Wednesday. It is only Friday though.

Rubio: ‘I’m not going to be vice president’



That’s a good enough promise for me.

news.yahoo.com/rubio-im-not-going-vice-president-172953870.html

 

[ishii]

The problem Ishii is Rubio has said no so many times I’ve lost count. Here’s the latest unless he’s said no again since Wednesday.

Rubio: ‘I’m not going to be vice president’



That’s a good enough promise for me.

news.yahoo.com/rubio-im-not-going-vice-president-172953870.html

Maybe he denies interest so many times because he’s asked so many times! Ever think about that? If he accepts are you going to complain: “he broke a promise! therefore he’s a liar and unChristian!” If so, I hope you apply the same rigid standard to the other politicians - some of them Democrats - who also have a change of heart to serve their country.

Ishii

 

[ishii]

Right Ishii and Rubio has been a Senator for less than 2 yrs too. Don’t you guys have anyone like Biden with far more experience to be VP, a heartbeat away from the Presidency?

A political hack/human gaffe machine? Heavens no. I would love to see a debate between Biden and Rubio, but even more would like to see Paul Ryan. Decades in the senate does always a good Vice president make.

Btw a most blessed Happy Easter to you and to all here, conservatves, moderates, and liberals alike.

Thank you - same to you.

 

[CMatt25]

Maybe he denies interest so many times because he’s asked so many times! Ever think about that? If he accepts are you going to complain: “he broke a promise! therefore he’s a liar and unChristian!” If so, I hope you apply the same rigid standard to the other politicians - some of them Democrats - who also have a change of heart to serve their country.

Ishii

I know even Santorum and apparently West and probably others, I think the VA and NJ governors too, aren’t going around unequivocally continuously denying any interest whatsoever everytime they’ve been asked. I seem to recall hearing even Santorum saying that of course he’d consider it. And he’s still running for the top spot. If Rubio at this late stage wants to serve his country, then just say so already. What’s he afraid of that he keeps denying it when questioned?

 

[CMatt25]

A political hack/human gaffe machine? Heavens no. I would love to see a debate between Biden and Rubio, but even more would like to see Paul Ryan. Decades in the senate does always a good Vice president make.

Thank you - same to you.

Thank you Ishii. I think the Democrats could have a field day though with the Ryan budget if he’s the VP choice. Santorum and you have contraception and his extreme far outside of the mainstream views on social issues remaining in the news and in ads. I honestly don’t know who would be your best bet. I’m sure Mitt will try to find someone.

 

[ishii]

Thank you Ishii. I think the Democrats could have a field day though with the Ryan budget if he’s the VP choice. Santorum and you have contraception and his views on social issues outside of the mainstream remaining in the news. I honestly don’t know who would be your best bet.

Some think the governor of Virginia has been successful- and would help deliver a swing state. I don’t think Santorum would be a good pick for either president or vice president. Democrats will certainly try to have a field day with the Ryan budget - but the GOP can certainly come back with - “what has Obama/Democrats offered as an alternative?” Ryan is obviously in a good position to defend his own budget.

Ishii

 

[CMatt25]

Some think the governor of Virginia has been successful- and would help deliver a swing state. I don’t think Santorum would be a good pick for either president or vice president. Democrats will certainly try to have a field day with the Ryan budget - but the GOP can certainly come back with - “what has Obama/Democrats offered as an alternative?” Ryan is obviously in a good position to defend his own budget.

Ishii

Well for a thing or two they’ve offered not to end Medicare as we know it and many have wanted to spread the sacrifice around more.

 

[CMatt25]

Some think the governor of Virginia has been successful

This VA governor?

usatoday.com/USCP/PNI/Nation/World/2012-02-23-BCUSAbortion-UltrasoundVirginia3rd-LdWritethru_ST_U.htm

 

[ishii]

Well for a thing or two they’ve offered not to end Medicare as we know it and many have wanted to spread the sacrifice around more.

Letting the entitlement programs go bankrupt will end them as we know it, Cmatt.

Ishii

 

[CMatt25]

Letting the entitlement programs go bankrupt will end them as we know it, Cmatt.

Ishii

Maybe but no liberal or Democrat I know of is proposing to end it. It works well in caring for the sick as Christ asked to be done or at least a lot of seniors seem reasonably pleased with the care they receive. It’s a pretty popular program.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Obama had more experience in the Senate. But right. I look forward to seeing if Rubio goes back on his word.

The difference, of course, being that Rubio actually wants to serve out his term as Senator. Obama always had higher aspirations, since the 2004 DNC Convention.

 

[_Abyssinia]

While I think Allen West makes a good congressman and would be a better vice president than Biden, I think politically speaking he would be a bad choice - worse than Palin. Atleast Palin had two years of running a state. West has only been a congressman for less than two years. The Democrats and media would successfully portray him as lacking gravitas and experience to be president. The question would be: “Do we really want an untested man to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?” Whether I or anyone else agrees or disagrees that he is fit to be VP, the reality is that they could successfully make it an issue during the election. It would be one more way for Obama to deflect criticism from his dismal failure as president. Allen West for Vice president? No way - not this time. Maybe down the road he might be a better candidate.

Ishii

But the same ‘‘inexperience’’ argument could be made about Rubio, he has had 2 years experience in the senate, but you think he would be one of the best VP choices.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

But the same ‘‘inexperience’’ argument could be made about Rubio, he has had 2 years experience in the senate, but you think he would be one of the best VP choices.

I maintain Bob McDonnell is the best pick at VP.

 

[ishii]

But the same ‘‘inexperience’’ argument could be made about Rubio, he has had 2 years experience in the senate, but you think he would be one of the best VP choices.

That’s a good observation, Abyssinia. My only answers are that historically very few congressmen have ascended to the level of vice presidency or presidency - for a reason. The last congressman to become president was James Garfield. Gerald Ford was appointed vice president, but he was minority leader of the House. There is more gravitas (rightly or wrongly) credited to US senators than to congressmen. I think a vice presidential nominee of West would be vulnerable to the “heartbeat away from the presidency” issue more than would a Marco Rubio (but I’m sure Democrats would raise it with him as well). It is no accident that our presidents and vice presidents have mainly been Senators or governors. West would be a huge gamble and I don’t think the GOP is in the situation that requires such a gamble. Give West a few years - maybe get elected to senate - and then I will be clammering for him to run for president.

Ishii

 

[ishii]

I maintain Bob McDonnell is the best pick at VP.

I agree that he is impressive - he won his election by 17 points. Maybe he could help deliver Virginia into the GOP column - Obama won Virginia by 6 points in 2008.

Ishii

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

I agree that he is impressive - he won his election by 17 points. Maybe he could help deliver Virginia into the GOP column - Obama won Virginia by 6 points in 2008.

Ishii

Lots of positives and no not alot of negatives. Democrats wouldn’t be able to attack his record. Virginia has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country. He is saving tax revenue by privatizing alot of traditionally government functions, thereby creating real jobs that don’t come at taxpayer expense. He is striving to improve the horrific road conditions left by Warner and Cain. About the biggest knock on him is a thesis he wrote in college that the DEmocrats tried to demonize him on, but that’s old news.

 

[HailStarofSea]

Susana Martinez may be a Governor in a Democrat leaning state but she is a conservative. If Romney is in the top 1% then so must be Barack Obama. Barack Obama is a rich man, he is a millionaire.

I think Romney can appeal to lower income voters because he didn’t inherited his wealth, the money he inherited he donated to Brigham Young University. Romney worked to earn his money. Ohio, for example, Romney earned a good percentage of votes from people who earned between $30000-$50000.

Both Obama and Romney are wealthy, but Obama isn’t proposing tax plans that benefit people making $200k or more the most. The tax system does need to be reformed, but the load should lighten more for the middle class. All the election results show that Romney loses lower income voters even in Ohio he lost them to Santorum. His money was donated at the age of 48. He was born with a silver spoon, attending an exclusive and expensive private school, Cranbrook, from his early years with people even wealthier than himself.

In June 1981, the family set off for an outing at a nearby lake. A park ranger told Romney not to launch his freshly painted boat, saying its registration numbers weren’t properly displayed. He threatened a $50 fine.

In typical spreadsheet fashion, Romney calculated the fine as an acceptable price for his outing and decided to launch the boat anyway. The ranger quickly arrested him for disorderly conduct and hauled him off to the station.

The charges were dropped and the records sealed after Romney threatened to sue.

deseretnews.com/article/695236445/Fortunate-Son-Mitt-Romneys-life-is-his-fathers-legacy.html?pg=4

When everyone in this world has the ability to disobey the law because they are rich enough to not care about the monetary fines and to launch an expensive legal suit if anyone protests, Romney’s problem with lower income voters will cease.

There is no Republican ‘war on women.’ Republicans simply believe that it is not constitutional to force people to pay for something like contraception, sterilization, abortificants and abortion who have moral objections, which is also what the Catholic Church believes. To say that there is a ‘war on women’ in America is disrespectful to women in countries who are i.e. not allowed to drive and can not vote. There is war on religious liberty in America.

I did not bring up the term ‘war on women’; you did so it is contradictory to now criticize me for using it. I was using it in reference to the GOP’s female vote problem. GOP has a hard time with unmarried woman, attracting mostly only married woman. At the same time one might say that the DNC has a hard time attracting married women.

In February, 64 percent of unmarried women said they would vote for Obama over Mitt Romney, the presumptive Republican nominee, according to a Democracy Corps survey analyzed by Democratic pollsters. Only 31 percent picked the GOP candidate. The gap — 33 points — was 10 points bigger than in it was in January.

Now look at what married women say: 56 percent said they would vote for Romney, and only 37 percent for Obama, with virtually no change from January to February.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/put-ring-obama-wins-women-married-types/story?id=16057761#.T4CQE9V22So

Women in countries where women can’t vote are generally in Islamic countries. While I sympathize with those women who do want to vote, women are not a “minority.” They are generally over 50% of the population, and they are generally married with husbands, fathers, uncles that they have influence over. When women’s rights are substantially limited, women tend to play a large role in this - such as Japanese foot binding or Islamic genital mutilation often enforced by the mothers. There are always some women who support what other women consider oppressive. Its not disrespectful to women in countries who can’t vote since women in the United States who are concerned about women’s representation in power can look to poorer, continents such as Africa that have had three female heads of state already.

 

[ishii]

GOP has a hard time with unmarried woman, attracting mostly only married woman. At the same time one might say that the DNC has a hard time attracting married women.

But married women vote more than unmarried women do - so you could say that insofar as the Democrat party doesn’t attract as many married women voters, they, too, have a problem with women voters. But you’ll notice the issue hasn’t been spun this way by the media, which likes to portray the whole issue as a “GOP has a problem with women voters” story. That’s a convenient and self perpetuating narrative which helps Obama, doesn’t it? The media (mainstream media) wants to help Obama by portraying the GOP in as negative a light as possible.

Ishii

 

[_Abyssinia]

Both Obama and Romney are wealthy, but Obama isn’t proposing tax plans that benefit people making $200k or more the most. The tax system does need to be reformed, but a lot of the load should lighten for the middle class. All the election results show that Romney loses lower income voters even in Ohio he lost them to Santorum. His money was donated at the age of 48. He was born with a silver spoon, attending an exclusive and expensive private school, Cranbrook, from his early years with people even wealthier than himself.

deseretnews.com/article/695236445/Fortunate-Son-Mitt-Romneys-life-is-his-fathers-legacy.html?pg=4

When everyone in this world has the ability to disobey the law because they are rich enough to not care about the monetary fines and to launch an expensive legal suit if anyone protests, Romney’s problem with lower income voters will cease.

Like Evangelicals, strong conservatives and lower income voter, they were skeptical of Romney in the beginning but so anymore, Romney has continued to win more and more of these voters. Just last week with Romney’s Maryland win, he won the majority of low income voters band those that did not go to college. In Wisconsin Romney won won those across all income levels except those earning under $30000.

Romney has shown his ability to attract voters from nearly all income groups.

I did not bring up the term ‘war on women’; you did so it is contradictory to now criticize me for using it. I was using it in reference to the GOP’s female vote problem. GOP has a hard time with unmarried woman, attracting mostly only married woman. At the same time one might say that the DNC has a hard time attracting married women.

Women in countries where women can’t vote generally don’t want to vote; they believe in Islam and many, if not most, consider these values to be Western values.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/put-ring-obama-wins-women-married-types/story?id=16057761#.T4CQE9V22So

Unmarried women have been a majority Democrat voting bloc for decades, that is not new. Unmarried women are less likely to vote than married women. I read that in Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico and North Carolina 1/3 of unmarried women who are eligible to vote are not registered, compared to quarter of married women.

Bloomberg study found women who voted for Barack Obama are less likely to in 2012.