Rude comments people make about those on public assistance

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donna369 said:
you think that poor people are more destructive? its poor neighborhoods that have more violence, drug and gang activity where this destruction is. i have lived in public housing and we kept our home clean. my guy talks about section 8 areas where they keep their homes better than their independent neighbors. this is more of the prejudice against poor people. :nope:
the landlords may charge more simply because they are under obligation to keep these rentals up to par. and they can get away with it.
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I couldn’t help but giggle in sad way.
My 8 x 10 PA room ‘lists’ for $700
I pay 2 digits.
It is barely worth 2 digits.
It is far from being up to par.
From wobbly steps and porches to smoke detectors that do not work.
From blocked fire extinguishers to unsanitary shared kitchen and shared baths, etc.
There is quite the ‘ewww’ factor and it’s not from me.

I sooo can’t wait to move.
 
andrewstx said:
I am so disturbed by the radical right people that seem to think most who get public assistance are capable of work and just cheat the system. They come across as selfish. greedy and caring for no-one but themselves. I don’t see how such people can call themselves Catholic Christians with a straight face. 😦
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So speaking ill of those on public assistance is un-Christian (agreed) but speaking in pejoratives about those on the far right is somehow applauded with emoticons on Catholic Answers?

Group A is not able to discern the mind and intent of group B, but somehow, as a member of group B, you can do it for Group A? Isn’t that exactly what this topic is decrying?
 
cheezey said:
I couldn’t help but giggle in sad way.
My 8 x 10 PA room ‘lists’ for $700
I pay 2 digits.
It is barely worth 2 digits.
It is far from being up to par.
From wobbly steps and porches to smoke detectors that do not work.
From blocked fire extinguishers to unsanitary shared kitchen and shared baths, etc.
There is quite the ‘ewww’ factor and it’s not from me.

I sooo can’t wait to move.
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What a mess! This is another problem that this type of government intervention causes: an increase in the amount everyone has to pay for rent. If your place can rent for so much, then naturally people who actually keep their houses in good repair will want to charge more, and that will raise the area average which means Section 8 will start paying more for the place you are in which will cause… it’s a vicious cycle which I want to emphasize is the result of the sysstem rather than of the people.

If they just gave out vouchers, it might work better…
 
I’m sorry that people say mean things, 3DOCTORS. 😦 I’ve never met anybody who was on disability and/or other kinds of government money who didn’t need it. I think I know a lot of disabled people, though.
 
Recipients of federal disability checks often admit that they are capable of working but cannot or will not find a job, that those closest to them tell them they should be working, and that working to get off the disability rolls is not among their goals.

More baffling, most have never received significant medical treatment and not seen a doctor about their condition in the last year, even though medical problems are the official reason they don’t work. Those who acknowledge they’re on disability because they can’t find a job say they make little effort to find one, according to a Washington Examiner analysis of federal survey results.

Unearned disability, called SSI, is for individuals who have petitioned to be classified as disabled. Many of them have never worked and have never paid into Social Security. Earned disability, or SSDI, is for those who have held jobs for significant periods of time and paid at least partially into Social Security before becoming disabled.
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Those collecting government checks in the unearned program are in less pain than their counterparts who paid into the system, the analysis showed. They are typically overweight, uneducated and from broken homes.
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  • Returning to work is not a goal for 71 percent of the SSDI recipients, 60 percent of the SSI recipients.
  • 75 percent of the SSDI recipients don’t see themselves returning to work within five years, 65 percent of the SSI recipients don’t.
  • 72 percent of the small number of SSDI recipients who started a job while on disability got cash under the table, as did 70 percent of the small number of SSI recipients who started a job while on disability.
  • 24 percent of the SSDI recipients lack even GEDs, as do 43 percent of the SSI recipients.
  • Lack of childcare is not the reason they don’t work for 95 percent of the SSDI recipients who are looking for work, 84 percent of the SSI recipients who are looking.
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washingtonexaminer.com/exography-many-disability-recipients-admit-they-could-work/article/2533626
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Poverty is past, present ,and future, part of the human condition, So what would you like to do about it,instead of turning to a Christian network with your feelings of inconvenience and resentment?
Peace, Carlan
 
Julian_Bashir said:
So speaking ill of those on public assistance is un-Christian (agreed) but speaking in pejoratives about those on the far right is somehow applauded with emoticons on Catholic Answers?

Group A is not able to discern the mind and intent of group B, but somehow, as a member of group B, you can do it for Group A? Isn’t that exactly what this topic is decrying?
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Amen. Big pet peeve pf mine. "How dare you judge me you worthless piece of slime!"people will say from their pedestals of right thinking and non-judgementalism. :rolleyes:
 
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SamH:
What sort of disabilities are we talking about? And how much are doctor’s visits? Here’s a couple of interesting facts I found:
  • You’re basically not allowed to have any savings at all on disability. I’m in a pretty low cost of living area. If I had taken disability and then returned to work, I would have lost any help at all immediately. The maximum savings I could have without losing benefits would be about 2 months of living expenses. For some of my friends it might be one month or less of living expenses, meaning you’ve got almost nothing until that first paycheck.
  • If you do get a job, and it doesn’t work out, there’s a good chance you’re still out benefits. So if you’re not absolutely sure you can work it’s much safer not to try, as opposed to giving it a chance and having something to fall back on. Plus the processing can take months even if you could get benefits back.
  • Some disabilities limit the sorts of jobs you can take. This will result in people who are capable of working, but not capable of taking the sorts of jobs that might actually be in the area, or of finding the money to move. I went through this as well - I could do a job so long as it didn’t require me to keep to a set 5 day a week schedule. There are jobs out there that meet those criterion, but they weren’t anywhere I could actually get to.
  • Doctors are expensive. Meds are expensive. Even with insurance I’m paying $50 for a month of each sort of med I take. That was part of why I ended up not applying for disability (and taking on debt instead); I wouldn’t have been able to pay the doctor they wanted me to see.
  • Education is also forbidden. Being able to enroll in education is considered proof that you can work. So you have to stay out of school to receive benefits, even if that education would help you gt a manageable job.
Honestly, the more I look at the system, the more I think we’re punishing everyone except the scammers. We’ve blocked off just about every way of trying to improve your situation for people who legitimately want to get back to work, by cutting off all assistance the minute your situation starts to get better. The scammers won’t care about that - they’ll do whatever they can to stay on. And the reality is we’re never going to get all of them. But the system right now is encouraging people who would like to work to stay on disability instead.
 
DarkLight said:
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What sort of disabilities are we talking about? And how much are doctor’s visits? Here’s a couple of interesting facts I found:
  • You’re basically not allowed to have any savings at all on disability. I’m in a pretty low cost of living area. If I had taken disability and then returned to work, I would have lost any help at all immediately. The maximum savings I could have without losing benefits would be about 2 months of living expenses. For some of my friends it might be one month or less of living expenses, meaning you’ve got almost nothing until that first paycheck.
  • If you do get a job, and it doesn’t work out, there’s a good chance you’re still out benefits. So if you’re not absolutely sure you can work it’s much safer not to try, as opposed to giving it a chance and having something to fall back on. Plus the processing can take months even if you could get benefits back.
  • Some disabilities limit the sorts of jobs you can take. This will result in people who are capable of working, but not capable of taking the sorts of jobs that might actually be in the area, or of finding the money to move. I went through this as well - I could do a job so long as it didn’t require me to keep to a set 5 day a week schedule. There are jobs out there that meet those criterion, but they weren’t anywhere I could actually get to.
  • Doctors are expensive. Meds are expensive. Even with insurance I’m paying $50 for a month of each sort of med I take. That was part of why I ended up not applying for disability (and taking on debt instead); I wouldn’t have been able to pay the doctor they wanted me to see.
  • Education is also forbidden. Being able to enroll in education is considered proof that you can work. So you have to stay out of school to receive benefits, even if that education would help you gt a manageable job.
Honestly, the more I look at the system, the more I think we’re punishing everyone except the scammers. We’ve blocked off just about every way of trying to improve your situation for people who legitimately want to get back to work, by cutting off all assistance the minute your situation starts to get better. The scammers won’t care about that - they’ll do whatever they can to stay on. And the reality is we’re never going to get all of them. But the system right now is encouraging people who would like to work to stay on disability instead.
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These comments are illustrations of why, exactly, I don’t like the system. They don’t get me angry at the people receiving the aid, but at the system that tries to lock them in.
 
Julian_Bashir said:
So speaking ill of those on public assistance is un-Christian (agreed) but speaking in pejoratives about those on the far right is somehow applauded with emoticons on Catholic Answers?

Group A is not able to discern the mind and intent of group B, but somehow, as a member of group B, you can do it for Group A? Isn’t that exactly what this topic is decrying?
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Actually you can discern somewhat from the greedy, self serving, self centered voting records of many on the far right.

I was raised in the home town of the two BUSH Presidents by radical right parents who did not give a darn whether I lived or died. Beginning at the old age of 16 I had to work for $1 an hour (this was an long time ago) and had to pay for my own FOOD and clothing. I was kicked out the very night I graduated High School!

They were so self centered that when they died they did not leave me a penny. I can’t discern everyone’s mind and intent, but my parents I could christal clear.

In the following years I had a bad stroke which made unable to work or even shower and dress myself. I will vote for the right when it comes to life issues only.

Do you think my self-centered, selfish parents were correct, they who hated everyone who was not a white, fundamentalist, Texan? Do you think I deserved to have my stroke.

Do you think that I should drop dead, and do you even give a rat’s pattootie about anyone but your own selves?
 
Carlan said:
Poverty is past, present ,and future, part of the human condition, So what would you like to do about it,instead of turning to a Christian network with your feelings of inconvenience and resentment?
Peace, Carlan
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AMEN!!!
 
cheezey said:
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I received a lot of help getting to this point and I am profoundly grateful to God for these people, many of whom came from right here at CAF. 👍
What I wouldn’t give right now to be tangibly comforted because I am having a really bad day.
Something for which a shoulder, at no cost, would help, and money would not.
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october_baby said:
Cheezy- please don’t make the mistake of thinking nobody cares, I’m sure there are plenty of people on CAF who care about you! I care about you in my own limited way.
May God bless and keep you! :hug1:
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Thank you. 😉
I was really referring was the fact that many on PA are marginalized and have too little human interaction that is based on love and friendship.
Which I get plenty of on CAF!! 👍👍
I am tangibly alone and hating it. There’s no insurance coverage for that at all and that hurts. Big time
 
andrewstx said:
Actually you can discern somewhat from the greedy, self serving, self centered voting records of many on the far right.

I was raised in the home town of the two BUSH Presidents by radical right parents who did not give a darn whether I lived or died. Beginning at the old age of 16 I had to work for $1 an hour (this was an long time ago) and had to pay for my own FOOD and clothing. I was kicked out the very night I graduated High School!

They were so self centered that when they died they did not leave me a penny. I can’t discern everyone’s mind and intent, but my parents I could christal clear.

In the following years I had a bad stroke which made unable to work or even shower and dress myself. I will vote for the right when it comes to life issues only.

Do you think my self-centered, selfish parents were correct, they who hated everyone who was not a white, fundamentalist, Texan? Do you think I deserved to have my stroke.

Do you think that I should drop dead, and do you even give a rat’s pattootie about anyone but your own selves?
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Calm down. I am sorry for your situation, but that doesn’t give you the right to cast aspersions of people you don’t know on the right, and also complain that they judge people on public assistance at the same time. It is ignorant and hypocritical.

Again, I am very sorry for your situation, but not every person right of center is your parents, just like not every person on public assistance is lazy. I’ll pray for your situation.
 
Hmmm, we all experience loneliness to a degree ,compared to the poverty discussed here, and perhaps it is in our loneliness that most people with more than enough and who can’t relate to the poverty can reach out to the homeless and the poor with kindness.
Peace, Carlan
 
Pope Francis: The measure of the greatness of a society is found in the way it treats those most in need, those who have nothing apart from their poverty.
love Papa Francisco!
Peace, Carlan
 
Carlan said:
Pope Francis: The measure of the greatness of a society is found in the way it treats those most in need, those who have nothing apart from their poverty.
love Papa Francisco!
Peace, Carlan
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thank you for this.
 
INCONVENIENCE.
Wen someone or something
becomes inconvenient,
Think Again!
Especially concerning
The elderly
The poor
The handicaped!

Peace, Carlan
 
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