"Rumor: CBS considering making James Kirk bisexual in new Star Trek series"

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Funvod said:
Kirk is already bi. Read Star Trek TMP novel.
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The novels are not canon, according to Paramount/CBS. They often contradict one another. Generally, only what’s on screen counts.

As an example, a minor character that was introduced on a TNG episode I watched last night, Simon Tarses. (Episode “The Drumhead”.) In the episode, he admits he lied on his application to become an enlisted officer, about his bloodline – turns out he’s 1/4 Romulan. It’s his only canonical appearance. In one novel, it’s stated he was kicked out of Starfleet after this, but other novels contradict this, saying that he serves a 6 month suspension, then goes on to be a commissioned officer, and eventually a Chief Medical Officer.

 
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The only thing these hacks can create is a pile of rubble. No stone will be left standing upon another.
 
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I have loved Star Trek and Capt. Kirk since I was a child. If this is true, I will be heartbroken…
 
To the subject at hand. I saw a comment from Greg Cox, who has written several Star Trek books, on Facebook. He stated clearly that this is a RUMOR with NO confirmation from CBS, and that people should ignore it.

My opinion … I think it’s a bad idea. If they do it, it will only further divide a fanbase that has already divided over the JJ Abrams movies and the two existing CBS shows.
 
Seems to me that in the original series Kirk hooked up with a number of non-humans. Bi-sexuality seems tame by comparison.
 
I kind of agree though I have no problem with homosexuality in film. The thing is that Kirk is a lady’s man…and the lady can be any alien species…but always a female!

I never knew that Takei objected to his character being gay…I actually liked that change and loved Sulu!

While I have no objections to anyone being bi, I think making Kirk bi just because? It’s pointless, IMHO.
 
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I never knew that Takei objected to his character being gay…I actually liked that change and loved Sulu!
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Takei’s take was that he always tried to portray Sulu as a heterosexual, so he felt making the Kelvin universe version gay wasn’t true to the character.
 
Pattylt said:
While I have no objections to anyone being bi, I think making Kirk bi just because? It’s pointless, IMHO.
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I think I feel the same way. Maybe they will do something interesting with it. If not, it seems like just headline grabbing.
 
What writers do with a fictional character has no bearing on me.
 
So the best captain is the Discovery version of Pike and I will two handed punch anyone who says otherwise!

He is closely followed by Sisko.
 
It took me awhile to warm up to DS9, but once they hit the series-long Dominion story arc in season three, I thought it was some of the best episodic television on. I could watch anything Marc Alaimo as Gul Dukat, Andrew Robinson as Garak, and Jeffrey Combs as Weyoun.
 
Exactly.

Now all the others I watched (Sorry guys but after Voyager I just couldn’t get into the others, and while Voyager had some interesting bits especially early, it turned too much into the Seven of Nine eye candy show later on) have some definite ‘dating’ to them. I was not quite 10 when TOS premiered, and the minis my older sister wore and Rand’s beehive do were already outdated by the early 70s, and the whole ‘Wagon Train’ approach not to mention the special effects as well; the movies however updated very well and I still guffaw every time I watch ST-IV and hear, “The bureaucratic mind is the only constant in the universe-we’re getting a frigate”, and “I can’t leave him in the hands of 20th century medicine!”, although V was way too new Age and well let’s just say Kirk never dies. . .

But TNG? That is so EIGHTIES. So politically correct. If Kirk was out there showing that Earth’s # 1, TNG was pretty much apologizing that Earth existed and falling all over itself to show how much better anyone/thing else was. And the more interesting character, Worf, had the sense to join DS9.

But DS9? Instead of either grabbing planets for us/the Federation, like Kirk, or letting planets ‘show us all our wrongs” like TNG, Sisko who had his own demons with Picard/Locutus faced them. Instead of us trumpeting no ‘gods’ in a careless hedonism as the first two, we saw the Bajorans as an intelligent race who were openly religious. . .and Sisko coming to embrace his role as the Emissary. We saw a race which was originally marketed as evil (the Ferengi) first being ‘comic’ and then becoming markedly nuanced. When they changed, they did so believably. We saw a being (Odo) who did not know himself, thought he was alone, found his identity but those who were his own were the enemy of those whom he had spent his life defending. We saw plenty of love—unrequited love, unexpected love, love having to say goodbye, parent/child love, fraternal love, ‘adversarial’ love. We saw the entire universe come to war. . . And war halted by the selfless healing that Odo gave to the Dominion.

Fabulous series.
 
Totally agree. The writing in DS9 is the best ST has ever done in my opinion. The line you quoted by McCoy is great. Another one from the Search for Spock that always makes me laugh occurs right after McCoy finds out he is suffering from a Vulvan mind meld. He remarks “that green-blooded S.O.B.; it’s his revenge for all those arguments he lost.” Classic stuff.
 
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Totally agree. The writing in DS9 is the best ST has ever done in my opinion. The line you quoted by McCoy is great. Another one from the Search for Spock that always makes me laugh occurs right after McCoy finds out he is suffering from a Vulvan mind meld. He remarks “that green-blooded S.O.B.; it’s his revenge for all those arguments he lost.” Classic stuff.
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Oh, you want good Star Trek on DS9? You can’t get better than this:
So I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover up the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But most damning of all, I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again, I would. Garak was right about one thing: a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant. So I will learn to live with it…because I can live with it. I… can… live with it.

Computer, erase that entire personal log.
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You would not have seen that on TNG.

This is not to say I condone what Sisko or Garak did, but DS9 brought some reality to the sterile, brightly-lit universe we saw on TNG. That Sisko, despite being a good and moral man, could turn to objectively evil acts if pushed hard and far enough. It is not given to us to justify the means, but to show that even in the 24th century, even if away from Earth or the bridge of the USS Enterprise-D, war is messy, and man is messy.
 
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Was that “In the Pale Moonlight”? Perhaps my favorite episode of the series. Sisko nailed it in that episode, and Garak was just Garak; always awesome.
 
So are they making more Star Trek shows with Captain Kirk in them? Or are they trying to say that when the show was first made, Kirk was bisexual even tho he showed absolutely no signs of it (hey, all those individuals Kirk chased may have been aliens, but they looked like humanoids who would be very attractive to [ETA: heterosexual] males to me 🙃 )
 
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