Rumors About God's Holy Sabbath Dispelled

[Protestant101]

“And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.” Genesis 2:2-3

Which day is the Sabbath?

“The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God.” Exodus 20:10. “And when the sabbath was past, …very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre.” Mark 16:1,2.

The Sabbath is not the first day of the week (Sunday), as many believe, but the seventh day (Saturday). Notice from the above Scripture that the Sabbath is the day that comes just before the first day of the week.

Was the Sabbath day changed?

“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish aught from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God.” Deuteronomy 4:2. “Every word of God is pure. … Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” Proverbs 30:5, 6.
God has specifically and positively forbidden men to change His law by deletions or additions. To tamper with God’s holy law in any way is one of the most fearful and dangerous things a person can do.

God’s law is good and a blessing. “Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.” Romans 7:12 “But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.” James 1:25

Jesus said “Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:18-19

**What would Jesus do? **

In John 15:10 Jesus said “I have kept my father’s commandments” and we can also find from scripture that Jesus attended church on the Sabbath day. “And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.” Luke 4:16

What did the Apostles do?

“And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures.” Acts 17:2. “Paul and his company … went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.” Acts 13:13, 14. “And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.” Acts 16:13. “And he [Paul] reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.” Acts 18:4.

**Did The Gentiles Also Worship On Sabbath? **

God commanded it: “Blessed is the man … that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it.” “Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, … every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer … for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.” Isaiah 56:2, 6, 7, emphasis added.

The Apostles Taught It:

“And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.” “And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.” Acts 13:42, 44, emphasis added. “And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.” Acts 18:4.

There simply is no Biblical justification to “celebrate Sunday in honor of the resurrection.”

 

[LilyM]

“And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.” Genesis 2:2-3

Which day is the Sabbath?

“The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God.” Exodus 20:10. “And when the sabbath was past, …very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre.” Mark 16:1,2.

The Sabbath is not the first day of the week (Sunday), as many believe, but the seventh day (Saturday). Notice from the above Scripture that the Sabbath is the day that comes just before the first day of the week.

Was the Sabbath day changed?

“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish aught from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God.” Deuteronomy 4:2. “Every word of God is pure. … Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” Proverbs 30:5, 6.
God has specifically and positively forbidden men to change His law by deletions or additions. To tamper with God’s holy law in any way is one of the most fearful and dangerous things a person can do.

God’s law is good and a blessing. “Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.” Romans 7:12 “But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.” James 1:25

Jesus said “Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:18-19

**What would Jesus do? **

In John 15:10 Jesus said “I have kept my father’s commandments” and we can also find from scripture that Jesus attended church on the Sabbath day. “And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.” Luke 4:16

What did the Apostles do?

“And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures.” Acts 17:2. “Paul and his company … went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.” Acts 13:13, 14. “And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.” Acts 16:13. “And he [Paul] reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.” Acts 18:4.

**Did The Gentiles Also Worship On Sabbath? **

God commanded it: “Blessed is the man … that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it.” “Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, … every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer … for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.” Isaiah 56:2, 6, 7, emphasis added.

The Apostles Taught It:

“And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.” “And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.” Acts 13:42, 44, emphasis added. “And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.” Acts 18:4.

There simply is no Biblical justification to “celebrate Sunday in honor of the resurrection.”

Of course the Apostles went to SYNAGOGUE on the Sabbath to preach to Jews - that’s when the Jews met there! If they went on a Sunday or Monday they’d find it empty. :doh2:

The real question is when did they meet among themselves to break bread? That we DO know from numerous first-century Christian sources - and even parts of the New Testament itself. Certainly Sunday, or the Lord’s Day.

Try reading this to find the real basis for Sunday worship.

 

[spauline]

Dear Protestant101,

There are TWO Sabbaths, and not merely one. The Old Sabbath was not changed. In the New Covenant, a New Sabbath was inaugurated.

Protestant101, surely, you must understand that God, being Infinite in power, needs no literal rest. Do you actually believe that after God “created the world”, he said to himself, “Man, my *** is whipped. I have to chill here, have a few beers and watch the game on the couch!”?

You see, Protestant101, the days of the creation are not really about any temporal aspect of Creation. Knowing how God made everything from the plants, to spiders, to kangaroos does nothing to help us attain salvation. To be sure, a special Divine Intervention must attend the appearance of man, for an immortal spirit cannot come from a merely physical development. But residual temporal aspects of the creation are not the subject of Divine Revelation, nor the intent of the author of Genesis.

Hence, the ECFs see in the days of creation a greater metaphor, a metaphor for a greater activity on the part of God, which is not His bringing into being the PHYSICAL universe, but, rather, His REcreation of the human race through its redemption.

Which is to say, just as God “toiled” to make the world in six “days”, and rested on the seventh, and rose on the eighth, so also shall the People of God labor in burden for six great ages against sin and wickedness, and on the seventh day shall rest from their labors, in so far as the fullness of the Gentiles in the mystics’ age of peace shall bring spiritual peace to earth for a great time, that is, a “millennium”. But behold, God said, “your sabbaths are unacceptable to me”, which means, the seventh day rest is not eternal, for the sun must necessarily set the eighth time, which brings the great apostasy and antichrist, after which the sun shall rise eternally in the New Creation, when all men shall be resurected unto the sabbath that shall never have darkness ever interrupt it, even as Christ rose on the eighth day.

 

[Protestant101]

Dear Protestant101,

There are TWO Sabbaths, and not merely one. The Old Sabbath was not changed. In the New Covenant, a New Sabbath was inaugurated.

, the seventh day rest is not eternal, for the sun must necessarily set the eighth time, which brings the great apostasy and antichrist, after which the sun shall rise eternally in the New Creation, when all men shall be resurected unto the sabbath that shall never have darkness ever interrupt it, even as Christ rose on the eighth day.

Your reasoning here is very faulty and unBiblical. The Bible only declares one Sabbath, the seventh-day Sabbath. It is called “THE Sabbath of the Lord thy God.”

The Bible also condemns your “eighth day” idea, for it is clear that Christ rose on the first day of the week, according to the Bible:

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Mar 16:9

**** Now when Jesus**** was risen early the first day**** of the week,** he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

 

[LilyM]

Your reasoning here is very faulty and unBiblical. The Bible only declares one Sabbath, the seventh-day Sabbath. It is called “THE Sabbath of the Lord thy God.”

The Bible also condemns your “eighth day” idea, for it is clear that Christ rose on the first day of the week, according to the Bible:

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You’ve totally ignored the link I gave? With all the Biblical references as well as the ECF references as to why it’s Sunday worship? Go back and read it, then come back here.

Even if you don’t want to believe in the eight-day idea, it IS true that if Saturday was the day on which the old creation was finished, Sunday IS the day of the New Creation.

 

[Protestant101]

You’ve totally ignored the link I gave? With all the Biblical references as well as the ECF references as to why it’s Sunday worship? Go back and read it, then come back here.

Even if you don’t want to believe in the eighth-day idea, it IS true that if Saturday was the day on which the old creation was finished, Sunday IS the day of the New Creation.

It is not a question of “wanting” to believe anything. Just show me where the Bible says that there is an eithth day in creation week. Sunday is named in the Bible as the day of Jesus’ resurrection; but the Bible nowhere commands Sunday to take place of the Sabbath “of the Lord thy God.” The Bible says plainly, that creation was finished on the "sixth day."

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

One should note that the Sabbath was the seventh day of God’s week, but the first day of Adam’s.

 

[LilyM]

It is not a question of “wanting” to believe anything. Just show me where the Bible says that there is an eithth day in creation week. Sunday is named in the Bible as the day of Jesus’ resurrection; but the Bible nowhere commands Sunday to take place of the Sabbath “of the Lord thy God.” The Bible says plainly, that creation was finished on the "sixth day."

OK, since you either can’t be bothered or dont’ know how to open my link, I’ll reproduce the pertinent sections below. Carefully read the Scripture quotes given - the early Christians certainly met on Sunday, not Saturday, to break bread among themselves, gather their collections and so on. And had every right to celebrate on Sunday as opposed to the Sabbath, as attested also by the quotes from early Christians themselves, which are given below as well.

The Apostles did go to synagogue on Saturday, I’m not denying that, but it appears to have been a very different thing altogether, and was almost certainly done for the purpose of converting the Jews who gathered in those Synagogues on that day, and not simply to worship God on that day.

Especially pertinent is Paul’s statement in Colossians - ‘let no man judge you in regard to … Sabbaths’. At the minimum you haven’t got a leg to stand on in actually calling Sunday worshippers wrong.

If you can find me a sufficient body of evidence from early Christians, who were taught by the Apostles themselves, to show that a substantial portion of them worshipped on Saturday as opposed to Sunday, then you’ll have a case.

Anyways, the main event now …

"Sabbath or Sunday?

Some religious organizations (Seventh-Day Adventists, Seventh-Day Baptists, and certain others) claim that Christians must not worship on Sunday but on Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath. They claim that, at some unnamed time after the apostolic age, the Church “changed” the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday.

However, passages of Scripture such as Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, Colossians 2:16-17, and Revelation 1:10 indicate that, even during New Testament times, the Sabbath is no longer binding and that Christians are to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, instead.

The early Church Fathers compared the observance of the Sabbath to the observance of the rite of circumcision, and from that they demonstrated that if the apostles abolished circumcision (Gal. 5:1-6), so also the observance of the Sabbath must have been abolished. The following quotations show that the first Christians understood this principle and gathered for worship on Sunday.

The Didache

“But every Lord’s day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned” (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).

The Letter of Barnabas

“We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead” (Letter of Barnabas 15:6–8 [A.D. 74]).

Ignatius of Antioch

“[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things * have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death” (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).

Justin Martyr

“[W]e too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined [on] you—namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your heart. . . . [H]ow is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us—I speak of fleshly circumcision and Sabbaths and feasts? . . . God enjoined you to keep the Sabbath, and imposed on you other precepts for a sign, as I have already said, on account of your unrighteousness and that of your fathers . . .” (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 18, 21 [A.D. 155]).

“But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead” (First Apology 67 [A.D. 155]).

Tertullian

“[L]et him who contends that the Sabbath is still to be observed as a balm of salvation, and circumcision on the eighth day . . . teach us that, for the time past, righteous men kept the Sabbath or practiced circumcision, and were thus rendered ‘friends of God.’ For if circumcision purges a man, since God made Adam uncircumcised, why did he not circumcise him, even after his sinning, if circumcision purges? . . . Therefore, since God originated Adam uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, consequently his offspring also, Abel, offering him sacrifices, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, was by him [God] commended [Gen. 4:1–7, Heb. 11:4]. . . . Noah also, uncircumcised—yes, and unobservant of the Sabbath—God freed from the deluge. For Enoch too, most righteous man, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, he translated from this world, who did not first taste death in order that, being a candidate for eternal life, he might show us that we also may, without the burden of the law of Moses, please God” (An Answer to the Jews 2 [A.D. 203]). "

continued …*

 

[LilyM]

… continued

The Didascalia

“The apostles further appointed: On the first day of the week let there be service, and the reading of the holy scriptures, and the oblation [sacrifice of the Mass], because on the first day of the week * our Lord rose from the place of the dead, and on the first day of the week he arose upon the world, and on the first day of the week he ascended up to heaven, and on the first day of the week he will appear at last with the angels of heaven” (Didascalia 2 [A.D. 225]).

Origen

“Hence it is not possible that the [day of] rest after the Sabbath should have come into existence from the seventh [day] of our God. On the contrary, it is our Savior who, after the pattern of his own rest, caused us to be made in the likeness of his death, and hence also of his resurrection” (Commentary on John 2:28 [A.D. 229]).

Victorinus

“The sixth day [Friday] is called parasceve, that is to say, the preparation of the kingdom. . . . On this day also, on account of the passion of the Lord Jesus Christ, we make either a station to God or a fast. On the seventh day he rested from all his works, and blessed it, and sanctified it. On the former day we are accustomed to fast rigorously, that on the Lord’s day we may go forth to our bread with giving of thanks. And let the parasceve become a rigorous fast, lest we should appear to observe any Sabbath with the Jews . . . which Sabbath he [Christ] in his body abolished” (The Creation of the World [A.D. 300]).

Eusebius of Caesarea

“They [the early saints of the Old Testament] did not care about circumcision of the body, neither do we [Christians]. They did not care about observing Sabbaths, nor do we. They did not avoid certain kinds of food, neither did they regard the other distinctions which Moses first delivered to their posterity to be observed as symbols; nor do Christians of the present day do such things” (Church History 1:4:8 [A.D. 312]).

“[T]he day of his [Christ’s] light . . . was the day of his resurrection from the dead, which they say, as being the one and only truly holy day and the Lord’s day, is better than any number of days as we ordinarily understand them, and better than the days set apart by the Mosaic law for feasts, new moons, and Sabbaths, which the apostle [Paul] teaches are the shadow of days and not days in reality” (Proof of the Gospel 4:16:186 [A.D. 319]).

Athanasius

“The Sabbath was the end of the first creation, the Lord’s day was the beginning of the second, in which he renewed and restored the old in the same way as he prescribed that they should formerly observe the Sabbath as a memorial of the end of the first things, so we honor the Lord’s day as being the memorial of the new creation” (On Sabbath and Circumcision 3 [A.D. 345]).

Cyril of Jerusalem

“Fall not away either into the sect of the Samaritans or into Judaism, for Jesus Christ has henceforth ransomed you. Stand aloof from all observance of Sabbaths and from calling any indifferent meats common or unclean” (Catechetical Lectures 4:37 [A.D. 350]). "

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[LilyM]

… continued

"Council of Laodicea

“Christians should not Judaize and should not be idle on the Sabbath, but should work on that day; they should, however, particularly reverence the Lord’s day and, if possible, not work on it, because they were Christians” (Canon 29 [A.D. 360]).

John Chrysostom

“[W]hen he [God] said, ‘You shall not kill’ . . . he did not add, ‘because murder is a wicked thing.’ The reason was that conscience had taught this beforehand, and he speaks thus, as to those who know and understand the point. Wherefore when he speaks to us of another commandment, not known to us by the dictate of conscience, he not only prohibits, but adds the reason. When, for instance, he gave commandment concerning the Sabbath— ‘On the seventh day you shall do no work’—he subjoined also the reason for this cessation. What was this? ‘Because on the seventh day God rested from all his works which he had begun to make’ [Ex. 20:10-11]. . . . For what purpose then, I ask, did he add a reason respecting the Sabbath, but did no such thing in regard to murder? Because this commandment was not one of the leading ones. It was not one of those which were accurately defined of our conscience, but a kind of partial and temporary one, and for this reason it was abolished afterward. But those which are necessary and uphold our life are the following: ‘You shall not kill. . . . You shall not commit adultery. . . . You shall not steal.’ On this account he adds no reason in this case, nor enters into any instruction on the matter, but is content with the bare prohibition” (Homilies on the Statutes 12:9 [A.D. 387]).

“You have put on Christ, you have become a member of the Lord and been enrolled in the heavenly city, and you still grovel in the law [of Moses]? How is it possible for you to obtain the kingdom? Listen to Paul’s words, that the observance of the law overthrows the gospel, and learn, if you will, how this comes to pass, and tremble, and shun this pitfall. Why do you keep the Sabbath and fast with the Jews?” (Homilies on Galatians 2:17 [A.D. 395]).

“The rite of circumcision was venerable in the Jews’ account, forasmuch as the law itself gave way thereto, and the Sabbath was less esteemed than circumcision. For that circumcision might be performed, the Sabbath was broken; but that the Sabbath might be kept, circumcision was never broken; and mark, I pray, the dispensation of God. This is found to be even more solemn than the Sabbath, as not being omitted at certain times. When then it is done away, much more is the Sabbath” (Homilies on Philippians 10 [A.D. 402]).

The Apostolic Constitutions

“And on the day of our Lord’s resurrection, which is the Lord’s day, meet more diligently, sending praise to God that made the universe by Jesus, and sent him to us, and condescended to let him suffer, and raised him from the dead. Otherwise what apology will he make to God who does not assemble on that day . . . in which is performed the reading of the prophets, the preaching of the gospel, the oblation of the sacrifice, the gift of the holy food” (Apostolic Constitutions 2:7:60 [A.D. 400]).

Augustine

“Well, now, I should like to be told what there is in these ten commandments, except the observance of the Sabbath, which ought not to be kept by a Christian. . . . Which of these commandments would anyone say that the Christian ought not to keep? It is possible to contend that it is not the law which was written on those two tables that the apostle [Paul] describes as ‘the letter that kills’ [2 Cor. 3:6], but the law of circumcision and the other sacred rites which are now abolished” (The Spirit and the Letter 24 [A.D. 412]). "

 

[Catholic_Dude]

1 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to him and said, “I am God Almighty ; walk before me and be blameless. 2 I will confirm my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers.”
9 Then God said to Abraham, "As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised.
-GENESIS 17

Here is the oldest and one of the most important commandments given by God that was to be obeyed.
23 He said to them, "This is what the LORD commanded: ‘Tomorrow is to be a day of rest, a holy Sabbath to the LORD. So bake what you want to bake and boil what you want to boil. Save whatever is left and keep it until morning.’ " 24 So they saved it until morning, as Moses commanded, and it did not stink or get maggots in it. 25 “Eat it today,” Moses said, “because today is a Sabbath to the LORD. You will not find any of it on the ground today. 26 Six days you are to gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will not be any.”

-EXODUS 16
This is the first time God commands men to keep the Sabbath, this is over 500 years after Abraham.
18"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
-Matthew 18
Here Jesus gives the Church the authority to teach binding doctrine.

1Some men came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the brothers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question.

6The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9He made no distinction between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear? 11No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
-Acts of the Apostles 15
At the first council, the Apostles met and they infallibly taught that the oldest and one of the most important commandments was no longer binding. God gave His Church the authority to do something as big as this. If they have the authority to do something like that, then no longer binding the Sabbath day and its requirements is not a problem, and making Sunday binding is just as much within the Church’s God given power as well.

 

[Protestant101]

Anyways, the main event now …

"Sabbath or Sunday?

Some religious organizations (Seventh-Day Adventists, Seventh-Day Baptists, and certain others) claim that Christians must not worship on Sunday but on Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath. They claim that, at some unnamed time after the apostolic age, the Church “changed” the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday.

First of all; I have never said that you shouldn’t worship on Sunday, or any other day of the week. I have said that the Sabbath “of the Lord thy God” has not changed; and so we should not try to change it ourselves.

The Sabbath is NOT in honor of the resurrection. It never has been; and never will be. It is not once called “the Jewish Sabbath” in the Bible, as in the sense of it is no longer applicable for God’s people today. You don’t know your own church’s teachings on this subject; for even She would not try to use the Bible to say the Sabbath was changed. But what the catholic Church does do is to relegate the seventh-day Sabbath, merely as A day of “worship;” and then say they changed “the day of worship;” but not the Sabbath! If that isn’t walking on thin ice; I don’t know what is.

 

[LilyM]

First of all; I have never said that you shouldn’t worship on Sunday, or any other day of the week. I have said that the Sabbath “of the Lord thy God” has not changed; and so we should not try to change it ourselves.

The Sabbath is NOT in honor of the resurrection. It never has been; and never will be. It is not once called “the Jewish Sabbath” in the Bible, as in the sense of it is no longer applicable for God’s people today. You don’t know your own church’s teachings on this subject; for even She would not try to use the Bible to say the Sabbath was changed. But what the catholic Church does do is to relegate the seventh-day Sabbath, merely as A day of “worship;” and then say they changed “the day of worship;” but not the Sabbath! If that isn’t walking on thin ice; I don’t know what is.

You never said we shouldn’t worship on Sundays? Then which bit of this …

There simply is no Biblical justification to “celebrate Sunday in honor of the resurrection.”

…do you not believe? Both statements can’t be true, since the second says in exactly so many words that we shouldn’t worship on Sundays.

And there is every reason to celebrate the Resurrection, the Apostles did so themselves by breaking bread on Sundays. And Paul in Colossians makes clear the Sabbath is redundant, as do the multitude of Early Church Fathers. Moreover, its the day on which Christ rose - if He didn’t rise our faith is in vain. Of course we’re going to celebrate it as our top priority.

 

[po18guy]

101, how have you been? Let’s see what happened regarding the Sabbath:

Mark 2:27 Then he (Christ) said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

John 9:14 Now the day on which Jesus had made the mud and opened the man’s eyes was a Sabbath.

John 5:18 For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

John 9:16 Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” But others asked, “How can a sinner do such miraculous signs?” So they were divided.

Colossians 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

Matthew 12:8 (Christ) “For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

Mark 2:28 (Christ) “So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

Luke 6:5 Then Jesus said to them, “The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

Matthew 18:18 (Christ) "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

God chose, from all eternity, to raise His Son the day after the Sabbath, knowing that it would forever be celebrated as a day of great joy (except in certain churches ). Christ is Lord of the Sabbath, and gave the Apostles the power to bind and loose. He used the term “Whatever” when giving that power to them. Whatever includes the power to honor the day in which the Lord God chose to raise His Son. Is that so terrible?

I know that Ellen Gould White wrote vehemently against it, but so? She was not infallible. The very existence of the Adventist church is proof that the “evil” Pope(s) did not force all Christians to worship on a non-Sabbath day. Since the Apostles had the authority from Christ to decide “whatever”, it appears they were infallible. What they held bound on earth is held bound in heaven. I follow Christ and His Apostles, not just anyone.

Christ’s peace brother.

 

[po18guy]

Jesus said "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Correct.

Matthew 5:17 The Fulfillment of the Law ] "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Christ is the fulfillment. It has come to pass.

There simply is no Biblical justification to “celebrate Sunday in honor of the resurrection.”

However, this is one of several peculiarly Adventist views, not seen anywhere in human history until mid-1800s America. Forgive me, but nothing resembling America is anywhere in biblical prophecy.

 

[Protestant101]

You never said we shouldn’t worship on Sundays? Then which bit of this …

…do you not believe? Both statements can’t be true, since the second says in exactly so many words that we shouldn’t worship on Sundays.

And there is every reason to celebrate the Resurrection, the Apostles did so themselves by breaking bread on Sundays. And Paul in Colossians makes clear the Sabbath is redundant, as do the multitude of Early Church Fathers. Moreover, its the day on which Christ rose - if He didn’t rise our faith is in vain. Of course we’re going to celebrate it as our top priority.

It doesn’t say “in so many words” that you shouldn’t “worship” on Sunday. “in so many words” just means you reading between the lines words that are not there). It says there is no Biblical instruction to justify “honouring the resurrection” on Sunday, OR any other day. The Bible actually does tell us to “honour the resurrection” “in so many words” but you obviously have failed to read the link I provided in my last post to explain this. Once again; it is a case of either doing it the way God says, in His Word, or the way the so called ECFs say so; which is NOT in God’s Word. I might add that that should read the **CATHOLIC **early church fathers.

Simply put; you have failed to show how the Bible would support God cancelling His own law, at the say so of the Catholic Church. He does not do what the Church says; but the Church does what He says. If Catholics would come back to their Protestant roots; they would do things God’s way.

 

[Todd_Easton]

The Sabbath was principally established as a weekly commemoration of God’s liberation of the Hebrews from their slavery in Egypt:

12"`Observe the sabbath day, to keep it holy, as the LORD your God commanded you. 13Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; 14but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, or your manservant, or your maidservant, or your ox, or your ***, or any of your cattle, or the sojourner who is within your gates, that your manservant and your maidservant may rest as well as you. 15You shall remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out thence with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to keep the sabbath day. (Deuteronomy 5:12-15)

In view of that better liberation over sin and death effected for all mankind by our Lord Jesus Christ in his resurrection from the dead on the first day of the week, the prophet Hosea predicted the end of the Sabbath observance.

And I will put an end to all her mirth, her feasts, her new moons, her sabbaths, and all her appointed feasts. (Hosea 2:11)

Keeping the Sabbath is conspicuously missing from the list of commandments that our Lord Jesus Christ says one must keep to enter life:… If you would enter life, keep the commandments." 18He said to him, “Which?” And Jesus said, “You shall not kill, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, 19Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” (Matthew 19:17-19)
Keeping the Sabbath is also conspicuously missing from the apostles and elders’ list of observances for the Gentile converts in Acts 15:29.

There is no specific command to keep the Sabbath from either our Lord Jesus Christ or any of the New Testament authors.

St. Paul describes the Sabbath as nothing but a shadow now that our Lord Jesus Christ has come.

16Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath. 17These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. (Colossians 2:16-17)
The fact that our Lord Jesus Christ frequented synagogues on the Sabbath during his earthly ministry and that his apostles later frequented synagogues on the Sabbath (in order to evangelize the people there) is no more an indication that all Christians should now keep the Sabbath than the fact that our Lord Jesus Christ was circumcised and St. Paul circumcised St. Timothy (because of the Jews) is an indication that all Christians should now be circumcised.

The reference to “the Lord’s Day” in Revelation 1:10 strongly implies that Christians regarded the first day of the week (Sunday) as a weekly commemoration of our Lord Jesus Christ’s resurrection from the dead and mankind’s liberation from its slavery to sin and death. This is explicit in the extant non-Biblical writings of the disciples of the apostles.

 

[Todd_Easton]

There is no specific command to keep the Sabbath from either our Lord Jesus Christ or any of the New Testament authors.

Similarly, St. Paul and the other New Testament authors are not shy about pointing out behavior contrary to the Christian faith and nowhere are Christians chided for not keeping the Sabbath.

 

[Catholic_Dude]

1Some men came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the brothers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question.

6The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9He made no distinction between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear? 11No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
-Acts of the Apostles 15
At the first council, the Apostles met and they infallibly taught that the oldest and one of the most important commandments was no longer binding. God gave His Church the authority to do something as big as this. If they have the authority to do something like that, then no longer binding the Sabbath day and its requirements is not a problem, and making Sunday binding is just as much within the Church’s God given power as well.

Check out this lost book of the Bible 2nd Acts 15:Some men from Ellen White came down from America [in the 1800s] to Rome and were teaching the brothers: “Unless you worship on the Sabbath, Saturday, you cannot be saved”. This brought the Catholic Apologists into sharp dispute with them, and they turned to the Magisterium for assistance.

The Pope and Bishops met together to consider this issue and after much discussion they issued this statement: Friends!, Romans!, Catholics!, lend me your ears. Were we not given the authority by Jesus to bind and loose? and did we not loose the very great teaching concerning circumcision? Is not Saturday worship a minor issue compared to circumcision? We thus proclaim that Saturday worship is no longer binding, and from henceforth we proclaim the Lord’s Day, Sunday, the official Christian day of worship.

 

[NotWorthy]

IOnce again; it is a case of either doing it the way God says, in His Word, or the way the so called ECFs say so; which is NOT in God’s Word. I might add that that should read the CATHOLIC early church fathers.

I’d like to point out that this is the first accurate thing you’ve posted on this thread. Of course, the fact that it is rhetorical may be the reason you are accurate.

Why is it accurate? Because the Early Church was the Catholic Early Church. No difference!

It’s like the question, “Are you Catholic or Christian?” and the answer is, “Yes!”.