Ryabkov: It's the West's Fault

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Putin is just angry that his Tsarish vacations have temporarily been interrupted.
 
Nec5 said:
Putin is just angry that his Tsarish vacations have temporarily been interrupted.
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LOL. That may be.

But perhaps Putin is starting to realize that John McCain was serious when McCain tweeted Putin in early December, 2011 that: ““Dear Vlad, the Arab Spring is coming to a neighborhood near you.”

Perhaps it has more to do with the fact that Putin, who is seeking a return to the presidency in a March election, is convinced that any popular protest in any part of the world, and especially in the Middle East and Russia, is inspired by the U.S. White House and sponsored by the State Department. Who could blame him for thinking that? After all, Obama and the Neoconservatives have destabilized the entire Middle East and the regime change they have acomplished (Sadaam, Gaddafi, Mubarak) goes in one direction: West to East, with Assad and Ahmadinejad next on the list. Accordingly, “Russia has articulated a firm position … not to allow the repetition of the Libyan scenario in Syria, as the Kremlin will block any U.N. decision in that direction,” Igor Korotchenko, editor in chief of the monthly magazine National Defense, said Friday. “Russia is ready to do anything short of direct military involvement in the conflict.” In January of this year, a flotilla of Russian warships led by the aircraft carrier Adm. Kuznetsov called at the Syrian port of Tartus and a Russian-managed vessel allegedly unloaded tons of ammunition.

In December, 2011 Putin accused the State Department of meddling in Russian affairs and inciting riots in Moscow. According to Moscow political and defense analyst Alexander Golts, “the closer to the March election, the more evidence the Kremlin will produce to indicate the U.S. involvement and it is becoming a key point on the agenda in Putin’s presidential campaign.”
 
Perhaps Syria could be convinced to accept a multi-national peacekeeping force, if they were shown that it could be done successfully, first by sending troops into Saudi Arabia and Bahrain to protect the severely oppressed Shia population. A multi national peacekeeping force could oversee Democratic elections in Bahrain for a transition to Shia majority rule since they make up at least 70 pct of the population, and then possibly an autonomous Shia state could be set up in Eastern Saudi Arabia where the Shias are in the majority. I would like to think the US State Department would support such plans, or else be exposed as the very worst of hypocrites.
 
Do we know for sure he’s wrong about the west supplying arms to the rebels, either directly or indirectly?
 
kubark said:
LOL. That may be.

But perhaps Putin is starting to realize that John McCain was serious when McCain tweeted Putin in early December, 2011 that: ““Dear Vlad, the Arab Spring is coming to a neighborhood near you.”

Perhaps it has more to do with the fact that Putin, who is seeking a return to the presidency in a March election, is convinced that any popular protest in any part of the world, and especially in the Middle East and Russia, is inspired by the U.S. White House and sponsored by the State Department. Who could blame him for thinking that? After all, Obama and the Neoconservatives have destabilized the entire Middle East and the regime change they have acomplished (Sadaam, Gaddafi, Mubarak) goes in one direction: West to East, with Assad and Ahmadinejad next on the list. Accordingly, “Russia has articulated a firm position … not to allow the repetition of the Libyan scenario in Syria, as the Kremlin will block any U.N. decision in that direction,” Igor Korotchenko, editor in chief of the monthly magazine National Defense, said Friday. “Russia is ready to do anything short of direct military involvement in the conflict.” In January of this year, a flotilla of Russian warships led by the aircraft carrier Adm. Kuznetsov called at the Syrian port of Tartus and a Russian-managed vessel allegedly unloaded tons of ammunition.

In December, 2011 Putin accused the State Department of meddling in Russian affairs and inciting riots in Moscow. According to Moscow political and defense analyst Alexander Golts, “the closer to the March election, the more evidence the Kremlin will produce to indicate the U.S. involvement and it is becoming a key point on the agenda in Putin’s presidential campaign.”
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A Russian saying suggests that “everything new is well-forgotten old”. It appears Putin is hearkening back to his refusenik KGB ways.

Thank you for Blaming America First™, as always, kubark, but you get a special award (and extra ration of beet vodka) from buying into the Soviet era propoganda
  1. Leftists (or Russian allies) are always under assault from the well-organized capitalist enemy.
  2. All workers and peasants (and Russian allies) hate capitalist exploiters.
  3. Armed resistance to a leftist government can only conceivably be staged by CIA agents in the service of American imperialism.
  4. Capitalists engage in relentless anti-socialist propaganda, subversion, and sabotage; they will commit any crime in order to kill hope and prevent the masses from liberation.
  5. The dying non-socialist sector of the world is run by a criminal conspiracy of capitalist oligarchs operating from the United States (and sometimes from Israel when appropriate).
Report to your local apparatchik for the extra ration of beet vodka.
 
scipio337 said:
A Russian saying suggests that “everything new is well-forgotten old”. It appears Putin is hearkening back to his refusenik KGB ways.

Thank you for Blaming America First™, as always, kubark, but you get a special award (and extra ration of beet vodka) from buying into the Soviet era propoganda
  1. Leftists (or Russian allies) are always under assault from the well-organized capitalist enemy.
  2. All workers and peasants (and Russian allies) hate capitalist exploiters.
  3. Armed resistance to a leftist government can only conceivably be staged by CIA agents in the service of American imperialism.
  4. Capitalists engage in relentless anti-socialist propaganda, subversion, and sabotage; they will commit any crime in order to kill hope and prevent the masses from liberation.
  5. The dying non-socialist sector of the world is run by a criminal conspiracy of capitalist oligarchs operating from the United States (and sometimes from Israel when appropriate).
Report to your local apparatchik for the extra ration of beet vodka.
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LOL!!

Your 5 talking points sound like something one would hear from Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, etc. Let’s stick to the facts rather than fallacious, ridiculous assertions like saying that I am “Blaming America First.” Come on, you can do better than that, scipio337.

The only one buying into “Soviet-era propaganda” is scipio337. You seem to have bought into the propaganda of the Arab Spring which was sponsored and sustained by the neo-marxist in the White House. You seem to have bought into the propaganda of “making the world safe for democracy,” and preemptive, preventive military intervention, perpetual war for perpetual peace, and the propaganda of Neoconservatism, whose first geneneration of luminaries were ex-Trotskyites, socialists, and leftists like Irving Kristol who wrote, in 1996, that, “with the end of the Cold War, what we really need is an obvious ideological and threatening enemy, one worthy of our meddle, on that can unite us in opposition.”

If you wish to be taken seriously, scipio337, then please keep your comments focused on the topic of this thread and if you disagree with Ryabkov, then do so with facts rather than Fox News talking points.
 
kubark said:
LOL!!

Your 5 talking points sound like something one would hear from Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, etc. Let’s stick to the facts rather than fallacious, ridiculous assertions like saying that I am “Blaming America First.” Come on, you can do better than that, scipio337.
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Agreeing with Putin, that the US is somehow behind anti-Putin protests in Russia?

kubark said:
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Perhaps it has more to do with the fact that Putin, who is seeking a return to the presidency in a March election, is convinced that any popular protest in any part of the world, and especially in the Middle East and Russia, is inspired by the U.S. White House and sponsored by the State Department. And who can blame him?
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Doesn’t sound like you’re blaming the US for anything there, at all! Try Occam’s Razor, friend. People in Russia aren’t opposed to Putin because we tell them to.
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Kubark:
The only one buying into “Soviet-era propaganda” is scipio337. You seem to have bought into the propaganda of the Arab Spring which was sponsored and sustained by the neo-marxist in the White House. You seem to have bought into the propaganda of “making the world safe for democracy,” and preemptive, preventive military intervention, perpetual war for perpetual peace, and the propaganda of Neoconservatism, whose first geneneration of luminaries were ex-Trotskyites, socialists, and leftists like Irving Kristol who wrote, in 1996, that, “with the end of the Cold War, what we really need is an obvious ideological and threatening enemy, one worthy of our meddle, on that can unite us in opposition.”

If you wish to be taken seriously, scipio337, then please keep your comments focused on the topic of this thread and if you disagree with Ryabkov, then do so with facts rather than Fox News talking points.
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Ahh, the “I know you are, but what am I?” defense. Refreshing!

Well, if you don’t know my take on the events in the Middle East, feel free to create a strawman of your own device.

I’m not an Arab Spring supporter, or a supporter of US involvement in the Arab Spring. Giving moral support to the “Rainbow Revolutions” of former Soviet satellites is one thing, but mob rule in the Middle East will get ugly, and fast!

Then again, I’m also not the one giving tacit approval of the sweeping conspiracies of Vlad Putin.

If you can’t see how Putin’s musings closely resemble those tired old cliches, I’m not sure what history can teach you.
 
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