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Bush did it.:mad:
Yes, but we’re talking about the deficit and there is plenty of blame to go around to creating it:
In 2002, Vice-President Dick Cheney and the Bush administration’s economic team met to discuss a second round of tax cuts, which would follow Bush’s 2001 cuts. At the meeting, “then-Treasury Secretary Paul H. O’Neill pleaded that the government — already running a $158 billion deficit — was careening toward a fiscal crisis.” Allegedly, Cheney replied by saying that “deficits don’t matter.”
Six years later, the Bush administration’s consistent belief that deficits don’t matter has increased the national debt to over $10 trillion. This is the highest dollar amount ever, and pushes the debt to 69% of the gross domestic product, which is the highest percentage since 1955.
thinkprogress.org/economy/2008/10/02/172396/cheney-deficit-debt/
 
Yes, but we’re talking about the deficit and there is plenty of blame to go around to creating it:

thinkprogress.org/economy/2008/10/02/172396/cheney-deficit-debt/
"In 2002, Vice-President Dick Cheney and the Bush administration’s economic team met to discuss a second round of tax cuts, which would follow Bush’s 2001 cuts. At the meeting, “then-Treasury Secretary Paul H. O’Neill pleaded that the government — already running a $158 billion deficit — was careening toward a fiscal crisis.” Allegedly, Cheney replied by saying that “deficits don’t matter.”

Six years later, the Bush administration’s consistent belief that deficits don’t matter has increased the national debt to over $10 trillion. This is the highest dollar amount ever, and pushes the debt to 69% of the gross domestic product, which is the highest percentage since 1955."

And Obama managed to get it to $14 trillion in 2 years.😦
 
"In 2002, Vice-President Dick Cheney and the Bush administration’s economic team met to discuss a second round of tax cuts, which would follow Bush’s 2001 cuts. At the meeting, “then-Treasury Secretary Paul H. O’Neill pleaded that the government — already running a $158 billion deficit — was careening toward a fiscal crisis.” Allegedly, Cheney replied by saying that “deficits don’t matter.”

Six years later, the Bush administration’s consistent belief that deficits don’t matter has increased the national debt to over $10 trillion. This is the highest dollar amount ever, and pushes the debt to 69% of the gross domestic product, which is the highest percentage since 1955."

And Obama managed to get it to $14 trillion in 2 years.😦
Which includes a Quantative Easing program by the FED, whom no one of either party (except Ron Paul) objected to. It’s been estimated that more than $2 Trillion of the “deficit” has still been unspent. And don’t forget the 1988 corporate bailout which both Bush and Obama supported wholeheartedly. Just saying both appointed Bernanke and both are to blame. Let’s face it, the debt could easily reach $30 Trillion by 2020, no matter who’s President.
 
I’m sure you realize the Democratic Party is a big tent and also understand how things work with respect to the Republican minority in the US Senate and 60 votes.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Yes, I saw how that worked during the health care debate…

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
I watched part of the press conference in a waiting room while at a doctor’s appointment.
I must say----poor performance, as always. No “I’m sorry for whatever part I may have played in this,” just “well, if we had had some compromise this would not have happened,” which basically translates as “if the Tea Party and its representatives would have shut the heck up and allowed tax increases on the wealthy, basically caving in to my demands, this would not have happened. Shame on the Tea party, the Republicans and the Rich for being selfish, greedy bastards who care only about themselves.”
Sheesh.
 
he has somewhat waffled on that amount too. nobody really knows the details of his plan, which is not surprising since he has no plan.
You know deep inside what it is, Estesbob. Come on.

Like I told Darryl earlier-----the plan is “Spread the wealth around.” Remember that one? :rolleyes:

“Raise taxes on the rich and stick it to those greedy bastards until it hurts. Oh, yes, and redistribute wealth.”:dts:
 
And, oh yes, the DOW fell -600 points at closing.

Ain’t life grand? :eek:

There are some rough weeks ahead.
 
You know deep inside what it is, Estesbob. Come on.

Like I told Darryl earlier-----the plan is “Spread the wealth around.” Remember that one? :rolleyes:

“Raise taxes on the rich and stick it to those greedy bastards until it hurts. Oh, yes, and redistribute wealth.”:dts:
Most people’s definition of rich is anybody that makes more than they do
 
Most people’s definition of rich is anybody that makes more than they do
Actually, the definition used by the Obama administration was $250,000 per year. And the “tax increases” involved a return to the tax rate that they enjoyed before the Bush dramatically reduced their taxes in 2001, tax cuts that were supposed to have expired at the end of 2010, not only for the wealthiest Americans, but for all. In fact, the Obama administration has wanted to keep the lower tax rates for those earning less than $250,000. That translates into “tax increases” for the rich only in Republican-speak. The truth of the matter is that the Obama administration has sought a tax decrease for those earning less than $250,000 a year, assuming that the Bush tax cuts expire as they were supposed to.
 
Federal Reserve policy makers meet tomorrow - as fears of a double-dip recession rise. Growing talk of more “quantitative easing”
twitter.com/#!/WestWingReport/status/100737635127013376

Barney Frank on MSBNC: My jobs plan is getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Ugh. The last week’s activity in the stock market just wiped out all the gains from QE2, except gas and food prices are still higher. I’d hope he’s not so stupid as to try it again.
 
Ugh. The last week’s activity in the stock market just wiped out all the gains from QE2, except gas and food prices are still higher. I’d hope he’s not so stupid as to try it again.
Actually, Bernanke should think about selling some of the bonds he made capital gains on and REDUCE the deficit with them.
 
Losses accelerating at Australian stock market; S&P/ASX200 index off 5% - Sydney MH bit.ly/n74js9

KOSPI (Korea) now down more than 7%

Obama needs to do more than get in front of the cameras with a deer in the headlights look/speech to turn this around. Does he have it in him?
 
Actually, the definition used by the Obama administration was $250,000 per year. And the “tax increases” involved a return to the tax rate that they enjoyed before the Bush dramatically reduced their taxes in 2001, tax cuts that were supposed to have expired at the end of 2010, not only for the wealthiest Americans, but for all. In fact, the Obama administration has wanted to keep the lower tax rates for those earning less than $250,000. That translates into “tax increases” for the rich only in Republican-speak. The truth of the matter is that the Obama administration has sought a tax decrease for those earning less than $250,000 a year, assuming that the Bush tax cuts expire as they were supposed to.
The democrats had control of both houses of congress and the Presidency they could have raised taxes if they wanted to In fact up until teddy died they had a filibuster proof majority in the Senste
 
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