No, that is perhaps what threw you off before.
No, ignorance does not save my friend. In fact, willfully remaining in ignorance damns. What I was pointing out was that God knows the limits of a person. As long as they strive to learn the truth (doctrines) and practice it, they will find favor with God. So God may forgive what they have not done.
Jaberwocky- I believe that if you carefully reread what you just wrote and what I emphasized and really come to fully know and understand what you are saying here I have faith and hope that you might eventually come to see and understand what others on this thread and another thread of yours have been trying to get you to understand.
Well, considering I wrote the sentence, you must understand that it is very likely that I already did know what I was referring to
After reading your posts and the manner and way in which you respond to other’s it has lead me to conclude that no matter what I post I will not be able to get you to see because I understand that some times and in some cases for those who beleive no explanation is necessary and for those who do not believe no explanation is possible… for some reason I very strongly believe that this is something only God will be able to help you see and understand… so I will continue to pray for you and I would ask you to please continue to pray for me that He continues to help me see Him, know Him and understand Him and His wonderouse works more and more every day…Well, considering I wrote the sentence, you must understand that it is very likely that I already did know what I was referring to
Note that what I have said does not change what else I have said here and the other thread. Because what I said in the latest post before this was on how God reacts to what you do. I was not addressing the question of whether you can do the will of God without doctrine.
Even my reply insists that one must put an effort to know the will of God. Otherwise one cannot expect God’s mercy.
So perhaps it will help me better if you put down in your own wording what you would like me to see.
Then the term is used loosely, changing and undefined, making meaningful discussion difficult at best. Best to get back to EENS.
Well, I think the term is defined sufficiently enough. But you make incorrect conclusions. As we can see here, you made an incorrect conclusion that by my definition, the knowledge of the truth is essential for existence. But as I pointed out to you, it is not for man may simply choose to act contrary to the truth and hold knowledge contrary to the truth and keep himself ignorant.
Hmm, I take it you consider me a hopeless case then. Very well, please do keep me in your prayers my friend!
If that’s how you want to see it then ok. That is your prerogative. But For the record I do not see, think or believe anyone is a hopeless case. I believe there is always hope as long as I keep trusting in God and His Divine and Merciful Providence.
Well, you believe that for man, I am a hopeless case. But for God, anything is possible so he might be able to still drag me out of my drowning. Would that be correct understanding?If that’s how you want to see it then ok. That is your prerogative. But For the record I do not see, think or believe anyone is a hopeless case. I believe there is always hope as long as I keep trusting in God and His Divine and Merciful Providence.
I don’t know is it? I certainly did not think you were drowning. But if this is what you believe you are doing right now I will most definitely say a few more prayers for you.Well, you believe that for man, I am a hopeless case. But for God, anything is possible so he might be able to still drag me out of my drowning. Would that be correct understanding?
Please say a few prayers for me too. God knows I have my own issues with feeling like I am a hopeless case and drowning too.
Definitely my friend! Let us pray for each other!
