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steve_b
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Just a few thoughts, and a few questions for clarificationI think alot of people tend to forget Hell was initially created for Satan and the other fallen angels, it is THEIR place of torment and punishment, It seems alot of people think they are the ‘wardens’ of hell and rule the place…Id like to know where this belief came from and where people got this idea?
Let’s not forget we wouldn’t know ANYTHING about hell, or how it works and what it’s like, and that it is for humans as well, if it wasn’t for revelation from God…agreed?
One could ask, why else did Jesus spend so much time warning **us **of hell
- if we can’t go to hell ourselves, because hell is only for Satan and his minions
Now comes us. We (humanity) are going through our test . When our test is done, we likewise will be judged and separated from each other… and that separation for us will be permanent as well, because that sentence won’t be reversed Matthew 25:31-46
a few references to warnings of hell for our sake
Matthew 8:12
Matthew 13:42
Matthew 13:50
Matthew 22:13
Matthew 24:51
Matthew 25:30
Mark 9:48
Luke 13:28
Luke 16:24
M:
I used to think hell is hell. Then I came to understand there are levels of hell, going from horrible to even worse than horrible if that is even possible to describe with words.Id say Satan and the fallen angels are probably in much worse torment than a human soul could be in, while in hell,
M:
Haven’t we been shown already that God gave Satan and his minions temporary ability to do the damage they can do NOW, in the time they have to do it?but then again, it does seem Satan and other demons have the ability to come and go from hell, so that doesn’t really make sense either.
Example: Luke 22:31 , for context Full Chapter
That’s how God allows testing of US.
When you asked
"It seems alot of people think they are the ‘wardens’ of hell and rule the place…Id like to know where this belief came from and where people got this idea?"
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What is it you’re really asking? And who is “they” you refer to as the wardens? Are you talking about
- Satan and his minions are the wardens?
- or posters who write about people going to hell, do THEY think they are wardens
- or do examples of private revelations, do THEY think they are wardens?
- what is it you’re referring to?
- Are you saying hell is only for Satan and his minions not meant for us? Look at the Gospel passages above. Jesus can’t scare us needlessly. That would be dishonest of Him. Jesus can’t be dishonest
- Or maybe you’re questioning the right of the Church to warn, to teach, and to instruct about hell
- Obey your leaders and submit to them; for they are keeping watch over your souls, as men who will have to give account. Let them do this joyfully, and not sadly, for that would be of no advantage to you Hebrews 13:17
- But we beseech you, brethren, to respect those who labor among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, and to esteem them very highly in love because of their work 1 Thessalonians 5:12-13
That said,
At an EWTN mass I saw on TV, in 2011, Fr Joseph Mary Wolf gave the following homily. This episode happened to Fr Jose 30+ years ago. Fr Jose is now in a parish in N Florida. He saw hell, purgatory, and heaven
youtube.com/watch?v=FeQNdXu-Uvc