Saints whose bodies are incorrupt after buried... for centuries

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I find this odd, because I do like Mary from your bible. I have some strange liking to her and I can not explain it.

But, that does not mean I think Mary had a part in this saint’s alleged incorrupt body.

I am not going to ascribe to Mary things I simply can not.

Especially things that would be false upon any type of real scientific examination. Since no one will allow such a study to be done, I have to believe there is something deliberately being hidden from us all.
I’m sure there are many things being hidden from us… There are many sinful men in the Church

but we aren’t supposed to trust in men… only in Jesus.

i trust only those who trust in Jesus… and i wonder if i trust them…

but in any case, i think most of the hierarchy is in cahoots with Jesus… 😃

well, i can dream, can’t i?

only God knows…

there have been communists and others who have infiltrated the Church, become priests, and even bishops in order to destroy the Church… so you’re right not to trust every person in the Church, but i think those who examine saints bodies… well, i tend to trust them, mor or less…
 
Strawberry Jam,

I came to Mary through the Italians…different way of relating…earthy…incarnated, connected to us as a companion…helps us in peace during alot of suffering. Most humble. Her greatest virtue.

I sought Mary for 7 years after my experience with the Italians…she is so hidden…so in this further delay, I could see how she does not want the glory or attention…she works in the background…all for Christ and the salvation of everyone.

The Catholic Church recognizes the dignity of woman…those women in Mexico were given a right to an education 300 years atleast before Anglos…in part due to Our Lady of Guadalupe…incredible story!!!
 
Strawberry Jam,

I came to Mary through the Italians…different way of relating…earthy…incarnated, connected to us as a companion…helps us in peace during alot of suffering. Most humble. Her greatest virtue.

I sought Mary for 7 years after my experience with the Italians…she is so hidden…so in this further delay, I could see how she does not want the glory or attention…she works in the background…all for Christ and the salvation of everyone.

The Catholic Church recognizes the dignity of woman…those women in Mexico were given a right to an education 300 years atleast before Anglos…in part due to Our Lady of Guadalupe…incredible story!!!
I came to Mary without any ethnic influence. Just as I would expect her to come to anyone. Just as her Son told everyone she would be to them all.

This is another reason why I chose to persue catholic instead of eastern orthodox outside of Rome.

Yet, I meet many who feel that Mary has some special interest in their personal heritiage. Usually backed up with something that came about after the reformation.
 
Does anyone know when this picture was taken?

Saint Bernadette Soubirous
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No, but she was exhumed several times and then placed in display…I don’t think it has been touched since put there…
 
I have done quite a lot of research into this. There is a lot of misinformation on the net and youtube. I am sure that this is unintended misinformation but nevertheless wrong in some respects (e.g. showing the masked and clothed bones of saints or effigies and saying that they are photographs of incorrupt bodies). However I am convinced that this is a genuine phemonenon. If you want the benefit of my work to date, take a look at my website (address below) - hope you find it interesting.
 
I have done quite a lot of research into this. There is a lot of misinformation on the net and youtube. I am sure that this is unintended misinformation but nevertheless wrong in some respects (e.g. showing the masked and clothed bones of saints or effigies and saying that they are photographs of incorrupt bodies). However I am convinced that this is a genuine phemonenon. If you want the benefit of my work to date, take a look at my website (address below) - hope you find it interesting.
thanks… very interesting…

but i think that one part is worded rather strangely… How could she still be alive with her head detached??? :eek:
 
thanks… very interesting…

but i think that one part is worded rather strangely… How could she still be alive with her head detached??? :eek:
Do you think they may have meant in a “spiritual way”?

I’m just not able to read most of this site.
 
I saw a reference to this thread from another.

I have heard about St. Bernadette my entire life. I saw the movie, ‘The Song of Bernadette’. But when I read her biography, she became my favorite saint and moved me to tears. When I saw the picture of her corpus, I saw reflections of her same spirituality shine through her. And I personally saw her beauty as a sign for us, for those who need signs as such like this to believe in eternal life.

But do not make derisive remarks about this saint. And do not show disrespect towards her body with off hand remarks.

Mary’s greatest virtue was her humility. Reading this saint’s life, I could see how profoundly humble Bernadette was. Some how I learned more about Mary in a closer way…and her reasons for picking certain people. The issue of the apparition was Mary’s Immaculate Conception — conceived without sin…pure, humble…kind…Bernadette had such a simple personality. The less facades we wear on our living faces of today, the greater will be our place in heaven where no phonies will be.

Don’t look at Bernadette and her remains as some kind of phony charade.
 
The 18th and 19th century graves had to be dug up in the grounds of the Anglican Cathedral here in Liverpool, to make the gravestones safer and also to change the ground into a park, as no relatives had come forward to claim them.

Some of the coffins slipped off the back of the lorry, and cracked open, The bodies within were incorrupt. Investigations pproved that there was a previously-unknown chalybeate spring under the graveyard, and the water had permeated the coffins.

I daresay some of them were saintly, even though not Catholic. But all kept miraculously incorrupt because they were saints? I don’t think so.
 
The 18th and 19th century graves had to be dug up in the grounds of the Anglican Cathedral here in Liverpool, to make the gravestones safer and also to change the ground into a park, as no relatives had come forward to claim them.

Some of the coffins slipped off the back of the lorry, and cracked open, The bodies within were incorrupt. Investigations pproved that there was a previously-unknown chalybeate spring under the graveyard, and the water had permeated the coffins.

I daresay some of them were saintly, even though not Catholic. But all kept miraculously incorrupt because they were saints? I don’t think so.
could you post a link, please? bodies do decay in water in so i am curious about this.

thanks.
 
Sorry, I haven’t a written one. It was in a talk by a Tourist Guide.
I’ve just spent a few minutes googling chalybeate springs and incorrupt bodies, and there have been other cases, it seems. Presumably it’s to do with the dissolved iron salts. Chalybeate waters used to be drunk as a health aid.
 
The 18th and 19th century graves had to be dug up in the grounds of the Anglican Cathedral here in Liverpool, to make the gravestones safer and also to change the ground into a park, as no relatives had come forward to claim them.

Some of the coffins slipped off the back of the lorry, and cracked open, The bodies within were incorrupt. Investigations pproved that there was a previously-unknown chalybeate spring under the graveyard, and the water had permeated the coffins.

I daresay some of them were saintly, even though not Catholic. But all kept miraculously incorrupt because they were saints? I don’t think so.
chalybeate spring ???

:confused:
 
The 18th and 19th century graves had to be dug up in the grounds of the Anglican Cathedral here in Liverpool, to make the gravestones safer and also to change the ground into a park, as no relatives had come forward to claim them.

Some of the coffins slipped off the back of the lorry, and cracked open, The bodies within were incorrupt. Investigations pproved that there was a previously-unknown chalybeate spring under the graveyard, and the water had permeated the coffins.

I daresay some of them were saintly, even though not Catholic. But all kept miraculously incorrupt because they were saints? I don’t think so.
Natural mummification does occur in the right conditions, no doubt about that, and this obviously has nothing to do with sanctity. However when a body, for instance, bleeds and/or is totally flexible after being buried for decades then we can say that this is extraordinary. I have really tried to get to the facts about this and I am convinced that this is a real phenomenon even if it is less common that some people believe.
 
Natural mummification does occur in the right conditions, no doubt about that, and this obviously has nothing to do with sanctity. However when a body, for instance, bleeds and/or is totally flexible after being buried for decades then we can say that this is extraordinary. I have really tried to get to the facts about this and I am convinced that this is a real phenomenon even if it is less common that some people believe.
wasn’t John Lennon the 1st one to say that thing about making God laugh?
 
So, what, that Salt Water kept the worms from eating their flesh too?
 
Totally amazing! Completely astounded by St. Silvan! Other than the wound on his neck, it almost looks like he could get up and start walking around! All the way from the fourth century!
St. Silvan is a statue, dating from the 19th c from the looks of it.

Only St. Clare’s bones survive. The body of St. Therese became a skeleton. The face of Padre Pio is covered with a silicone mask. Bernadette’s face and hands are covered with wax masks. The Cure d’Ars face is a wax mask. Bl. John XXIII was embalmed. The display of a statue or covered face or an embalmed body inside a crystal or glass reliquary-casket is very misleading, as it implies incorruptibility. The bodies of the ancient Italian female saints are clearly mummified, probably as they were emaciated at death, with little remaining fat or muscle and their bowel emptied of contents due to diarrhea, vomiting, starvation, penance.

Here are some references:

Doctors’ statements re the body of Bernadette: this is the most important, as she is the main saint referred to as incorrupt:

catholicpilgrims.com/lourdes/bb_bernadette_body.htm

Bernadette died of TB at age 34, and was very emaciated at death, as her picture in her casket shows.

Also the following link, which includes others:

skeptoid.com/episodes/4126–which

Two books, both available cheaply on www.bookfinder.com (under $4.00 each, including shipping):

Nickell, J., Looking For A Miracle: Weeping Icons, Relics, Stigmata, Visions and Healing Cures (Prometheus Books, 1993). Available for under $4.00 including shipping under bookfinder.com.

Pringle, H., The Mummy Congress : Science, Obsession, and the Everlasting Dead (Hyperion, 2001). Also available for under $4.00, including shipping, through bookfinder.com

Includes other references to false attributions of incorruptibility.

bluepanjeet.net/category/series/the-incorruptibles.

Also check the article in wikipedia.com.

There is a long list of saints, etc., supposedly incorrupt, in the Wiki article. Many of these include only descriptions from ancient times. Some have images, many of poor quality, which may been preserved as described above. If you check each name online, you also find descriptions of bodies found “incorrupt” on first exhumation, but later were found to have disintegrated, probably as the surrounding air/atmosphere changed. Bl. Pier Frassatti was originally ‘incorrupt’ , later found to be decomposing.

Why don’t Protestants, etc have incorruptibility? Protestants don’t canonize. They don’t dig up their dead–repeatedly. As another poster has mentioned, there are reports of lack of decomposition of bodies accidentally exhumed, but their preservation is felt to have been a natural phenomenon.

The attribution of incorruptibility needs to be verified by the use of modern technology and science.
 
I’m convinced that Sophia Loren’s body has been kept incorrupt! 😛
 
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