OK. Go ahead and explain what scriptures support their view.
But it is your interpretation of the scriptures that you rely on to preach your message.
I disagree.
In 1 Cor 13:2, St. Paul tells us that faith without love (charity) is nothing (it cannot save). This clearly teaches that something other than faith is required for salvation.
Actually, that’s not what the verse says at all. It says:
“And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.”
Notice that Paul says “I am nothing”, not “faith is nothing.”
There is no place in this verse where we’re told that anything other than faith is required for salvation.
When the rich man asks what he must do to be saved, Jesus tells him to "keep the commandments. Mt 19:16-17. It is clear that his faith alone is not enough. We must have charity and keep God’s commandments.
Actually, you didn’t read the whole passage. Had you kept reading, you would have seen that even though the man says that he kept all of the commandments, he still was not saved.
St. James condemns the idea that we are saved by faith apart from works. Jam 2:24-26.
In the last example, you didn’t read far enough.
This time, you jumped in in the middle of the passage. Let’s back up just a little.
Notice that v 23 says “Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness:”
Here, we see the Bible telling us that Abraham was saved by faith.
Eph 1:8-10. All good works must be done in the grace of God to have any value towards salvation.
Not sure what you mean by this. Eph 1:8-10 says " 8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: "
It has nothing at all to do with doing good works to be saved.
I didn’t put any words in your mouth. I asked you what you would say, then asked why you would say it.
No, you stated that I would say it. I have never and would never say that.
How do you know… because they aren’t saved… how circular.
Again, you’re putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say that I would know they didn’t repent because they’re not saved.
Had you bothered to ask instead of making something up and attributing it to me, I would have said that it is clear that he did not repent because to repent means to turn from sin and not do it anymore. In the examples you gave, he’s not only doing it, but doing it
more.
I agree. Can you repent for a sin you have not yet committed?
You can repent of sin in a general sense, yes.
I don’t think this fairly states the Catholic posiiton.
So then, it was not your opinion that the Apostles were infallible and inspired by God in all things, not just in the writing of the scriptures?
First, why don’t you tell us when you believe the church was founded, and then list the books that were written before that time. It has always been my understanding that the Church was manifested at Pentecost… at the descent of the Holy Spirit.
The church was founded in Jerusalem about forty days after Christ’s ascension. The Catholic church was a part of this church.
Each of the Old Testament books was written before that time.
And, again, perhaps you can tell us when you think the Catholic Church came to be, and which scriptures preceded it.
You asked this question already.
