Same sex marriage debate and other secularist issues on Irish TV

[pepipop]

A catholic male homosexual has stated, on an Irish TV debate about same sex marriage, "that he believes in God and knows that God loves him, and although in a civil partnership now wishes to progress to the next step to marry his partner, which he believes is his right and that a civil partnership is in no way comparable to marriage. He also said that the priests in their frocks are are just condemning gay people and that God made man and that men rule the earth - and I assume he was inferring make the rules. "

Whilst he is correct that God does love him, there is so little knowledge as to the reasons why the three main religious denominations are against SS marriage, there is no idea. It’s all about ‘lurve’, if we ‘lurve’ each other why should we not be allowed to marry too.

The main Irish TV channel has a one minute slot at 6pm, for the Angelus, the secularists now wish this to be removed from the TV - for ‘equality’ reasons, although 90% of the population of Ireland report to be catholics.

They are now bringing in multidenominational ‘newly built’ schools, with no religious bias, teaching all religions throughout the world with no specific denomination, i.e. a future generation of confused non-religious adults. Yet, as stated by a member of the panel in opposition to these chools, stated that in the UK and ( I believe the USA) it is the catholic and other ‘religious’ schools, i.e. COE in England, that are oversubscribed to by secularist parents as they recognise their children get a better and stricter education.

 

[SaintPatrick333]

You can thank Lucifer’s favorite tool in Ireland, Mister Enda Kenny. God save Ireland.

 

[Fr_Bart_SVD]

Hi pepipop, Greetings from Co. Cork!

What we see is a kind of systematic war against the Catholic faith here. In next decade the religious image of Ireland is going to change dramatically.
But what is even worse: the internal crisis within the Church here. But, just trust in God’s mercy and lets do our job: preach the Gospel and present the beauty of the Catholic faith.
As our Lord said: the truth will set you free!

 

[pepipop]

Hi pepipop, Greetings from Co. Cork!

What we see is a kind of systematic war against the Catholic faith here. In next decade the religious image of Ireland is going to change dramatically.
But what is even worse: the internal crisis within the Church here. But, just trust in God’s mercy and lets do our job: preach the Gospel and present the beauty of the Catholic faith.
As our Lord said: the truth will set you free!

Hi Fr Bart, greetings from Dublin.
I only got to see the end of the talk, on TV. The labour atheists and ‘weak’ Enda, have fuelled the changes towards the church, no embassy in the vatican, multidenominational schools, etc. I hope that people come to their senses over it all (through God’s grace), as the attendance at mass is still relatively good (~50%), higger than other EU countries ( for the moment, anyhow)!.

I also sent a postcard to Enda Kenny through irelandstandup.org requesting the re-opening of the embassy in the vatican. At least there is a proactive Irish group doing something about it.

 

[gerry_maher]

If GOD wanted ssm HE would have created two adams or two eves instead of adam and eve.

 

[gerry_maher]

This is one of the main reasons GOD destroyed sodom and goramora.

 

[Fr_Bart_SVD]

Hi Fr Bart, greetings from Dublin.
I only got to see the end of the talk, on TV. The labour atheists and ‘weak’ Enda, have fuelled the changes towards the church, no embassy in the vatican, multidenominational schools, etc. I hope that people come to their senses over it all (through God’s grace), as the attendance at mass is still relatively good (~50%), higger than other EU countries ( for the moment, anyhow)!.

I also sent a postcard to Enda Kenny through irelandstandup.org requesting the re-opening of the embassy in the vatican. At least there is a proactive Irish group doing something about it.

By the way - is it any group here for Catholics living in Ireland?

We should gather together in this forum somehow

Yes, it’s true when you compare to the other countries in Western Europe, but I see to important areas:

1. try to give those who still attend the Mass - a beautiful liturgy and high quality of preaching (faithful to the teaching of the Chruch)
2. prepare those people who still believe to evangelize others - esspecialy young people! We have the words of eternal life but how many people lost meaning of their life and there is almost nobody to stand in the public places and preach

All actions are needed and I’m really happy that ‘Ireland Stand Up’ raised up it’s voice!

 

[pepipop]

By the way - is it any group here for Catholics living in Ireland?

We should gather together in this forum somehow

Yes, it’s true when you compare to the other countries in Western Europe, but I see to important areas:

1. try to give those who still attend the Mass - a beautiful liturgy and high quality of preaching (faithful to the teaching of the Chruch)
2. prepare those people who still believe to evangelize others - esspecialy young people! We have the words of eternal life but how many people lost meaning of their life and there is almost nobody to stand in the public places and preach

All actions are needed and I’m really happy that ‘Ireland Stand Up’ raised up it’s voice!

I totally agree with your two points. I feel the priests are ‘worried’ to say too much against various issues of catholic teaching from the pulpit. No, I don’t think there is a dedicated Irish group on this site - and I would be delighted to join such a forum!

 

[Fr_Bart_SVD]

I totally agree with your two points. I feel the priests are ‘worried’ to say too much against various issues of catholic teaching from the pulpit. No, I don’t think there is a dedicated Irish group on this site - and I would be delighted to join such a forum!

So I have created one

Catholicism in Ireland
forums.catholic-questions.org/group.php?groupid=1469

spread the news!

and by the way - greetings from Dublin 4!

I’ve come to our house when I was living some time ago.

 

[gerry_maher]

I remember before in ireland when the people were not so well off,in fact a lot of people in the country bearly had enought to eat.But what they did have was agreat respect for the church and our faith,this was onely a few years ago.Since the country became more wealty people seem to have lost a lot of that respect for the faith and its traditions.We might be ,well our souls anyway better off.

 

[pepipop]

I remember before in ireland when the people were not so well off,in fact a lot of people in the country bearly had enought to eat.But what they did have was agreat respect for the church and our faith,this was onely a few years ago.Since the country became more wealty people seem to have lost a lot of that respect for the faith and its traditions.We might be ,well our souls anyway better off.

That’s true, poverty would enhance religious fervour in people. Hopefully, due to the economy at the moment, more people will return to the church - unfortunately, though, a lot are emigrating.