Same sex public displays of affection at family events

[stupidisasstupiddoes]

Is it with condemnation and rejection or with love as Christ would.

It’s pretty simple really. Just because you support free speech, it doesn’t mean you agree with what the westboro baptist ‘church’ are saying. I support the rights of all people to get to know God and work on all their sins under pastoral care. For the record, I don’t agree with gay marriage so i’m not some frothing-mouth Liberal either. Christ didn’t endorse adultery when he asked who wants to cast the first stone, or endorse the sins of Mary Magdalene when associating with her, in fact he said “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick” (Mark 2:17) so if ‘you’ believe gay people are sick then why the flip are ‘you’ chasing them away from the Church?

 

[bjen993]

For the record, I don’t agree with gay marriage so i’m not some frothing-mouth Liberal either.

I might be one of those liberals you speak of. It is my belief that the theological jury is still out on what those text meant. Aside from Paul’s teaching in Cornith, etc there is some conflict as to why language as explicit to homosexuality would have been used.

But I digress, nonetheless - bottom line, love and welcoming is the way to go.

 

[Loud-living-dogma]

“Love and welcoming is the way to go”. For everything? Anything goes?

 

[bjen993]

“Love and welcoming is the way to go”. For everything? Anything goes?

Love and welcoming doesn’t mean I agree or condone someone. It means I welcome them to a place of healing, love, and respect. I would not turn them away from the church (see the post above with guidance from Francis).

 

[stupidisasstupiddoes]

What i’ll say to you is that as a former Protestant, you’ll always find something about being in a big group that grates with your individual beliefs. So you make a choice, everyone can go and have their own individual church and they can write their own catechism and be their own infallible pope so there’s never any disagreement. Or we can be stronger, together and work out how to apply the truth of God to our lives without losing the truth.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

I am very troubled by a close family member who is homosexual and engages in public displays of affection with their partner in front of small children. I feel this is not appropriate. I

My personal disposition is I don’t care to be present when anyone irrespective of sex are affectionately kissing.

Some people feel that some types of displays of affection are not appropriate around small children even if it is heterosexual couples. If that’s your disposition then I would suggest taking the same approach with heterosexual and homosexual people.

If not, then there’s not anything to be done to change the behaviour of the couple. You could try avoidance, but that’s going to possibly be restrictive on yourself and your child. You’ll have to decide if that’s worth it to you.

That said, I’ve got a brother that is gay and married to another man. I have a nephew. My nephew knows my brother is gay and married. I don’t see that it makes a difference in his every day life.

I go through all the trouble of deleting my post becauee I think, ‘you know what, not the right time or place’ and then you quote the whole thing…

The Internet is an archive. The best way to manage out of place statements is to not make them. On the Internet or not words once spoken and heard can’t be unheard.

 

[stupidisasstupiddoes]

I go through all the trouble of deleting my post becauee I think, ‘you know what, not the right time or place’ and then you quote the whole thing…

The Internet is an archive. The best way to manage out of place statements is to not make them. On the Internet or not words once spoken and heard can’t be unheard.

Why delete them anyway? Change your mind if the facts as you saw them have changed. We all learn, all the time. Muhammad Ali said “The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.” Then again, if you haven’t changed your mind then stand by what you said.

 

[Loud-living-dogma]

Love it that you quote Muhammed Ali as if he were great spiritual advisor. You know he had an affair with a 16year old girl?

 

[stupidisasstupiddoes]

Love it that you quote Muhammed Ali as if he were great spiritual advisor. You know he had an affair with a 16year old girl?

Right so a quote about making mistakes in life is invalid because it came from a person who made mistakes in life. Is it early in the morning where you are?

 

[Rau]

It means I welcome them to a place of healing, love, and respect. I would not turn them away from the church (see the post above with guidance from Francis).

Is anyone literally turned away? The only instances I recall in that vein were the gay activists (walking as a couple, dressed in a bright rainbow sash etc) denied communion. What could the minister do?

More generally, it is difficult for the Church to embrace a person who simultaneously and openly insists on his right to live contrary to what the Church teaches. In this respect, while the Church may be a hospital, the persons concerned reject the idea they need healing in this area. And the practical difficulty with homosexuality - as opposed to other vices - is that it is often by nature “open” (visible to all). So while others may sit in the pews committed to their own vices, it is entirely within.

In my experience, homosexual couples seeking religious affiliation will prefer a Church that regards their situation as not sinful. That is entirely understandable.